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« Reply #25 on: May 27, 2007, 01:46:06 PM »
When I use machines I dont have to balance the weight as opposed to free weights.

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« Reply #26 on: May 27, 2007, 01:52:36 PM »
When I use machines I dont have to balance the weight as opposed to free weights.

that sounds very comfortable.

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« Reply #27 on: May 27, 2007, 02:23:21 PM »
hahahahahahahaha, exactly, it always makes me laugh when these clowns say, "fuccking pusssy gym they don't have enough weight for me", every gym i've ever seen has Olympic bars and thousands of pounds of plates, if the db's aren't heavy enough for your ungodly 100 pound db. presses for half reps get your skinny ass on a barbell and do the barbell press.
People like hardcore gyms because of their environment.  Gold's is slowly losing that, they want to cater to the fitness type person, not bodybuilders.  Maybe thats why Bev's gym switched to Powerhouse.  And yes, I do want a gym that has more then 100 pound dumbells, how else I'm I going to my kickbacks ;D

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« Reply #28 on: May 27, 2007, 03:13:38 PM »
I was told yesterday they fired Derek Barton is that right

Keith; Derek and I were good friends. He's long gone. Great guy too.

Gold's Venice is done.

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« Reply #29 on: May 27, 2007, 03:23:08 PM »
Keith; Derek and I were good friends. He's long gone. Great guy too.

Gold's Venice is done.

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Who is he?

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« Reply #30 on: May 27, 2007, 03:28:16 PM »
Derek Barton was the long time "Director of Public Relations" for Gold's Venice. He made sure Gold's always had the right mix of Movie stars, Porn stars, Pro athletes, Rock & Rollers, Pro Wrestlers, Fitness girls, and bodybuilders, to keep the vibe just right.

His actual job was quite varied, but trust me, he was important in the history of Gold's Venice the Mecca of Bodybuilding.

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« Reply #31 on: May 27, 2007, 03:43:28 PM »
bullshit, hardcore scmardcore, anyplace that has weights and bars and db's is "hardcore" enough, just get in there and train hard.
I actually agree. Dumbells up to 150's in every Golds I've ever been in make it plenty hardcore for me.
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« Reply #32 on: May 27, 2007, 03:44:21 PM »
thats it.  Im going to buy some knee high tube socks, and get my "Greg Brady" hair back.

I will skateboard to the gym with a boombox stereo on my shoulder.

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« Reply #33 on: May 27, 2007, 05:32:56 PM »
Golds and certain other gyms do cater to bbing and weight lifting crowd. There are PLENTY of these gyms and they have dbs of over 120.. It's just that the mighty internet warriors who push 65 lb dbs are worried about things they can't even lift.. hahaha  ::)

Stop fucking worrying. THERE are plenty of "hardcore" gyms, but not every fucking place is gonna have 5 squat racks and 150 pound dumbells.

True enough. Some gyms have more equipment than others, based on who runs them and location. I train at Bally, but I switched from one near a mall to one closer to my house, because of better equipment there. Whereas more "suit-and-tie" folks trained at the one closest to the shopping mall and business plazas, the other Bally has lots of folks: high-school, college, and even (I think) some arena football players. Plus, a handful of local-level bodybuilders.

There are two power-cage squat racks (and one of those other types) there. Those, as well as all but two adjustable benches are bolted to the floor. The dumbbells go up to 105 lbs.; but, it's those blasted rubber-coated Ivanko ones. Plenty of rubber mats in the free-weight area. But, Bally still doesn't allow chalk.

Of course, I have the Premier Plus membership, which allows me to train at any Bally (or Bally affiliate) in the country. So, traveling isn't an issue. If there's a Bally in the area, I have a place to hit the iron.



 

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« Reply #34 on: May 27, 2007, 05:42:59 PM »
Keith; Derek and I were good friends. He's long gone. Great guy too.

Gold's Venice is done.

Tom

Yea Pete told me yesterday and I didn't even know that.  He also stated the Gold's Gym Talent Agency.  They were not a SAG affiliated agency but casting agents would call him to find out if a certain star was in shape.  They would also ask for background people for shows and such and in return Gold's Gym was allowed some of the people to wear Gold's Gym shirts.  That is why you saw the shirts on so many people on TV and movies.  He was a smart guy. 

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« Reply #35 on: May 27, 2007, 05:54:54 PM »
Every gym is struggling to stay in business. Same goes for Koloseum and even Golds, Venice. Owners are always trying to attract more members. We have a chain of gyms in Australia called Fitness First. They have installed Hammer equipment and also heavy dumbbells. So they are trying to get everyone to join. That makes sense.

Almost no gym prefers to have muscleheads. We have a good layout where the free weights, most of them, are in a separate room. The bodybuilders seem to gravitate there for most of their training which leaves the main equipment room coed.

One day I hope to dump the free weights into the Pacific Ocean! I so dislike all that clanging and the mentality that accompanies such training.

Golds Venice doesn't have a lying triceps extension machine. How can you effectively train tris without one? We have 3 of those machines.

I also built better machines than Joe made. It took me a while. Equipment has evolved. Yes, They should make one of Joe's Gyms for historical purposes but the gym business has evolved way past what he began.

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« Reply #36 on: May 27, 2007, 06:15:51 PM »
Every gym is struggling to stay in business. Same goes for Koloseum and even Golds, Venice. Owners are always trying to attract more members. We have a chain of gyms in Australia called Fitness First. They have installed Hammer equipment and also heavy dumbbells. So they are trying to get everyone to join. That makes sense.

Almost no gym prefers to have muscleheads. We have a good layout where the free weights, most of them, are in a separate room. The bodybuilders seem to gravitate there for most of their training which leaves the main equipment room coed.

One day I hope to dump the free weights into the Pacific Ocean! I so dislike all that clanging and the mentality that accompanies such training.

Golds Venice doesn't have a lying triceps extension machine. How can you effectively train tris without one? We have 3 of those machines.

I also built better machines than Joe made. It took me a while. Equipment has evolved. Yes, They should make one of Joe's Gyms for historical purposes but the gym business has evolved way past what he began.


I like having the weight room right out in the open on the main floor. The Bally I mentioned earlier (the one at which I stopped training) had its weight room so far back, you had to cut through the pool, jacuzzi, and sauna area AND past the aerobic room, just to get to it.

Long-term members may not be as profitable in certain gyms. My intial Bally contract was $36 a month for three years. I got that membership as a Christmas present, back in 1991. My parents paid it, with the provision that I actually use it and I keep my grades up (I was in college, at the time).

Once they paid off the contract completely, the renewal fee was just $69 per year. Two years later, that fee went up to $99.

My membership will expire in a month, as I renewed my membership for $198 for two years. If Bally keeps that price, I will sign on for another two years, which will cover my gym needs until June 2009.

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« Reply #37 on: May 27, 2007, 06:42:22 PM »
Gold's is putting up gyms here in St. Louis faster than McDonald's puts up new restaurants, nice gyms too, i don't know how they do it.

They just opened one in my area, nice place, I wouldn't call it "hardcore" but it is a nice gym, with all the stuff you need and then some. The small independent, my old gym, just closed down, and everyone went and signed up at Golds, I would have too but it is not a good location for me. I am thinking the small "hardcore" or whatever you want to call it, is a thng of the past.

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« Reply #38 on: May 27, 2007, 06:44:20 PM »
They just opened one in my area, nice place, I wouldn't call it "hardcore" but it is a nice gym, with all the stuff you need and then some. The small independent, my old gym, just closed down, and everyone went and signed up at Golds, I would have too but it is not a good location for me. I am thinking the small "hardcore" or whatever you want to call it, is a thng of the past.
exactly, i don't understand this whole "hardcore gym" bullshit, you pay to belong there so wouldn't you want the place to be nice and have a lot of equipment to choose from or do you want a place that looks like a crackhouse but is "hardcore".

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« Reply #39 on: May 27, 2007, 06:50:20 PM »
Small gyms can be profitable. The big gyms have huge operating costs. Gyms are open for long hours and are expensive to own. I marvel at the cheap rates charged in the states. No way you could survive in Australia with those cheap rates. What those gyms do is try to get more and more members. That is when they move away from bodybuilding and install more treadmills, etc. They have to appeal to the general public in order to survive.

A small gym with an owner operator could be profitable. Like the original Golds that was about 3000 square feet. One or two people could run that and give great service. They would have to charge way more than those chains do. That is what is putting small gyms out of business. It is similar to what supermarkets do to small stores. Things are more expensive at the corner store. You pay plenty for the convenience.

There are plenty of gyms everywhere now and customers have a choice about what suits them and what they want to pay. Most modern gyms are way better than what was around 20 years ago.

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« Reply #40 on: May 27, 2007, 07:28:38 PM »
exactly, i don't understand this whole "hardcore gym" bullshit, you pay to belong there so wouldn't you want the place to be nice and have a lot of equipment to choose from or do you want a place that looks like a crackhouse but is "hardcore".
Being hardcore doesn't mean it has to be a dump.  When I say hardcore, I'm talking about an environment where there are other big guys that are lifting heavy, giving you inspiration.  It's kind of hard getting into it, when you see a guy next to you doing flat flys with 15 lbs db.  A place where the musci is rocking, and I'm not talking about Nickleback or the latest hiphop tune.  I mean van Halen or AC DC whaling in the background.  Lastly, it must have the equipment for a hardcore workout.  I'm not talking about Life fitness machines like side raise or bentover row machines, I want t-bar row, squat racks, heavy db and heavyduty legpress.   

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« Reply #41 on: May 27, 2007, 08:19:37 PM »
I don't understand how anyone on this board could train at a Ballys, unless they have changed in recent years. I haven't set foot in one in a long time, but the one I have been to only had dumbells going up to 80 pounds if I remember correctly. Their gyms were like a social club for out of shape people who didn't really train with any intensity.
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« Reply #42 on: May 27, 2007, 08:20:10 PM »
I don't understand how anyone on this board could train at a Ballys, unless they have changed in recent years. I haven't set foot in one in a long time, but the one I have been to only had dumbells going up to 80 pounds if I remember correctly. Their gyms were like a social club for out of shape people who didn't really train with any intensity.
hahahahaha, i agree, Bally's is terrible.

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« Reply #43 on: May 27, 2007, 08:22:26 PM »
that sounds very comfortable.


Ive been laughing for an hour at that one... ;D

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« Reply #44 on: May 27, 2007, 08:24:59 PM »
that sounds very comfortable.

I's say it's almost plush.
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« Reply #45 on: May 27, 2007, 09:18:12 PM »
The gyms that survive are the ones where the hot chicks train. Even muscleheads will join those clubs for a perve.

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« Reply #46 on: May 28, 2007, 12:47:38 AM »
I think theres enough people that have enough money to buy into the "franchise" thing......start up costs.

But maintaining each on his own without help from corporate will get a drain on the money real soon.

The name is popular but people care about the $19 a month membership and when it goes up, they'll leave to "Ballys"   imo.



I would rather invest into a 24 hr fitness as an investment, since they wouldnt tell me   "  Hey, wheres your $24,000 ad money this month!!

24 doesn't offer franchises unless you are Magic, or Shaq. 

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« Reply #47 on: May 28, 2007, 12:50:14 AM »
Gold's has changed tremendously when Pete and the gang owned it.  They kept their franchising fee down so they wouldn't put such a burden on the franchisee.  No percentage and a very low monthly ad fee.  The new owners immediately started charging a higher franchise fee and even implemented a percentage for the Licensee's and vendors.  Now the newest owners (TRT Holdings) who don't know shit about this industry raised the fees and have started taking a percentage of gross receipts from the franchisee.  In addition, they are very unprofessional in the Franchise Division and most of the empployees at corporate actually work from their home and only go to the office to pick up mail and meetings.  They have ruined epitome of what a club should be.  They have ruined what Joe started and ended with Pete.  24 is buying up clubs just like they did here.  We went from having 7 or so Gold's here to now just one statewide. 



FHI aint buying chit anymore.  In fact, they have liquidated a lot of gyms to get out of the red, when they couldn't go public.  Odd, our old boss, loss his job at FHI because of the sale of the European division.  Craig Pepin Donat joined Ray Wilson when they sold off most of the Asian holdings. 

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« Reply #48 on: May 28, 2007, 12:52:07 AM »
Every gym is struggling to stay in business. Same goes for Koloseum and even Golds, Venice. Owners are always trying to attract more members. We have a chain of gyms in Australia called Fitness First. They have installed Hammer equipment and also heavy dumbbells. So they are trying to get everyone to join. That makes sense.

Almost no gym prefers to have muscleheads. We have a good layout where the free weights, most of them, are in a separate room. The bodybuilders seem to gravitate there for most of their training which leaves the main equipment room coed.

One day I hope to dump the free weights into the Pacific Ocean! I so dislike all that clanging and the mentality that accompanies such training.

Golds Venice doesn't have a lying triceps extension machine. How can you effectively train tris without one? We have 3 of those machines.

I also built better machines than Joe made. It took me a while. Equipment has evolved. Yes, They should make one of Joe's Gyms for historical purposes but the gym business has evolved way past what he began.

What is the mentality of people training with free weights??  How do you think the best physiques were built?? Machines??  What kind of comment is that??

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« Reply #49 on: May 28, 2007, 12:59:17 AM »
Do not forget that u can build a body without all free weights....but levrone shows up or ronnie and kids see their videos and grow up thinking the\at the ultimate thing for building mass are free weights...equipment has evolved however....on a side note ...the best equipped gym i've ever seen was powerhouse in rosedale park, MI.