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[Van_Bilderass]

Letro won't do much as far as estrogen in pre-menopausal women. There's a reason a SERM is used instead in those.

[j3di3]

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Please leave my name off if this goes to the boards. Thanks.

Would you say there is any validity to using Clen 2wks on 2wks off?
What's wrong w/running it for say 4 weeks straight?
I find that up to 120mcg a day is tolerable if spread out appropiately.
Thanks,


i dont support he use of clenbuerol any more,,i decided its crap when comaring it to albuterol at 12-16mg per day,,thus albuerol is he way to go,,same or better fat burning,,same volumizing effect,,better strength,, minimal to no sides,,

clenbuterol in general can be used for 4-5 weeks on and even 200mcg per day it tolerable since i had 180lb women on this dose plenty of time before,,the sides are not worthy at any dose since you get better result with either ephedra and or albuterol

the 2 weeks on 2 weeks off with clenbuterol is the same junk made up by the white widows ;)who say you have to have testosterone always so you dont lose your sex drive,,,or another stupid thing i heard was that you lose your sex drive on tren,,,all those exuses are for guys who abused and misused aas for years over years over years and cant get it on due to other medical problems,,thus need viagra  or cialis,,but not to worry! we got those too

are u saying that test shouldnt necessary be a part of any cycle?

[gh15]

testosterone should be a part of a cycle
what i was saying is that the lack of syntethic testosterone in your cycle is not the reason your peepee cant get up,,there are other reasons for that,,,

the main reason for testosterone in a cycle is for agressivness and overall good feeling and strength,,it also is natural to the body and the male body likes its nnatural hormone wether its synthetic or not

[SteelePegasus]

How about "Gaspari"  Novadex xt.    Its and aromatase also.....probably safer for naturals who arent jacked on 1000mg of gear a week roght???

lol, you are kidding right?

another majic elixer

[War-Horse]

lol, you are kidding right?

another majic elixer

 

[erokyrwrld]

Actually, novadex by Gaspari contains 3, 17-Keto-Etiochol-Triene also known as ATD.  This is a potent suicide aromatase inhibitor that can give estrogen suppression close to arimidex.

Back to arimidex v. femara

http://jco.ascopubs.org/cgi/content/abstract/20/3/751

RESULTS: Pretreatment aromatase levels ranged from 1.68% to 4.27%. On-treatment levels of aromatase were detectable in 11 of 12 patients during treatment with anastrozole (mean percentage inhibition in the whole group, 97.3%) but in none of the 12 patients during treatment with letrozole (> 99.1% suppression in all patients; Wilcoxon, P = .0022, comparing the two drug regimens). Treatment with anastrozole suppressed plasma levels of E1, E2, and E1S by a mean of 81.0%, 84.9%, and 93.5%, respectrively, whereas treatment with letrozole caused a corresponding decrease of 84.3%, 87.8% and 98.0%, respectively. The suppression of E1 and E1S was found to be significantly better during treatment with letrozole compared with anastrozole (P = .019 and .0037, respectively).

CONCLUSION: This study revealed letrozole (2.5 mg once daily) to be a more potent suppressor of total-body aromatization and plasma estrogen levels compared with anastrozole (1 mg once daily) in postmenopausal women with metastatic breast cancer.

[Necrosis]

Actually, novadex by Gaspari contains 3, 17-Keto-Etiochol-Triene also known as ATD.  This is a potent suicide aromatase inhibitor that can give estrogen suppression close to arimidex.

Back to arimidex v. femara

http://jco.ascopubs.org/cgi/content/abstract/20/3/751

RESULTS: Pretreatment aromatase levels ranged from 1.68% to 4.27%. On-treatment levels of aromatase were detectable in 11 of 12 patients during treatment with anastrozole (mean percentage inhibition in the whole group, 97.3%) but in none of the 12 patients during treatment with letrozole (> 99.1% suppression in all patients; Wilcoxon, P = .0022, comparing the two drug regimens). Treatment with anastrozole suppressed plasma levels of E1, E2, and E1S by a mean of 81.0%, 84.9%, and 93.5%, respectrively, whereas treatment with letrozole caused a corresponding decrease of 84.3%, 87.8% and 98.0%, respectively. The suppression of E1 and E1S was found to be significantly better during treatment with letrozole compared with anastrozole (P = .019 and .0037, respectively).

CONCLUSION: This study revealed letrozole (2.5 mg once daily) to be a more potent suppressor of total-body aromatization and plasma estrogen levels compared with anastrozole (1 mg once daily) in postmenopausal women with metastatic breast cancer.

FUCK im glad you said it, i was about to respond. rebound and novedex are equivalent to arimidex..

[Van_Bilderass]

Actually, novadex by Gaspari contains 3, 17-Keto-Etiochol-Triene also known as ATD.  This is a potent suicide aromatase inhibitor that can give estrogen suppression close to arimidex.

Back to arimidex v. femara

http://jco.ascopubs.org/cgi/content/abstract/20/3/751

RESULTS: Pretreatment aromatase levels ranged from 1.68% to 4.27%. On-treatment levels of aromatase were detectable in 11 of 12 patients during treatment with anastrozole (mean percentage inhibition in the whole group, 97.3%) but in none of the 12 patients during treatment with letrozole (> 99.1% suppression in all patients; Wilcoxon, P = .0022, comparing the two drug regimens). Treatment with anastrozole suppressed plasma levels of E1, E2, and E1S by a mean of 81.0%, 84.9%, and 93.5%, respectrively, whereas treatment with letrozole caused a corresponding decrease of 84.3%, 87.8% and 98.0%, respectively. The suppression of E1 and E1S was found to be significantly better during treatment with letrozole compared with anastrozole (P = .019 and .0037, respectively).

CONCLUSION: This study revealed letrozole (2.5 mg once daily) to be a more potent suppressor of total-body aromatization and plasma estrogen levels compared with anastrozole (1 mg once daily) in postmenopausal women with metastatic breast cancer.

Maybe it works in making females harder but it's not because of estrogen suppression. Not in premenopausal women i.e. most of the athletes we are talking about.

[War-Horse]

Im on the gaspari novadex right now.....       It works great, im staying fuller while low calories.....much better mood since starting....can work out harder and longer.....

Im taking 3 pills at nite, takes about a week to kick in......

[DK II]

Im on the gaspari novadex right now.....       It works great, im staying fuller while low calories.....much better mood since starting....can work out harder and longer.....

Im taking 3 pills at nite, takes about a week to kick in......

Keep us posted.

Do you consider yourself still natural?

[Van_Bilderass]

Do you consider yourself still natural?

Haha, exactly. Taking all sorts of weird chemicals while still claiming natural status.

FYI Novedex XT will lower your GH levels by 50%!!!

[DK II]

Haha, exactly. Taking all sorts of weird chemicals while still claiming natural status.

FYI Novedex XT will lower your GH levels by 50%!!!

hehe, a nice side effect, next to hair loss and an enlarged prostate. 

[War-Horse]

Keep us posted.

Do you consider yourself still natural?

Yep.     Its meant too boost my natural test by lowering estrogen.    I am making use of my own natural test levels,.............. not from an outside source.

Now pro-hormones were a differnt story, they were basically a pure test with one molecule or something to be added by your body.

Even tho i preach natural.....i can hang with the druggies and i have alot of friends on gear.    They would tell you ive never gotten anything from them................they just shake theur head....