US General now says he may need MORE time to access Bush's "surge"

[The Enigma]

Can you guys see where this is going? 




US General Says He May Need More Time to Assess Iraq Surge
By Al Pessin
Pentagon
31 May 2007
 
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The U.S. ground forces commander in Iraq says he might need more time to assess the impact of the new security plan, beyond the September assessment President Bush and the Congress are expecting.  Lieutenant General Ray Odierno made the statement Thursday during a news conference via satellite with reporters at the Pentagon.  He also spoke about increased efforts to reach out to insurgent groups and a new threat some of his forces are facing as they move into new areas in and around Baghdad.  VOA's Al Pessin reports from the Pentagon.

General Odierno says the troop surge and the new approach to fighting the Iraqi insurgency are making progress, with increases in the number of coalition operations that find weapons caches, bomb factories and insurgent cells.  But he also says insurgents attack every day, and he cautions against excessive optimism.  The general says he might not be able to make even an initial assessment of the new strategy by September.

[ribonucleic]

Yeah, they'll probably need until mid-November 2008. 

They can take until 2020, if they like. When American fatalities are still running 100+ a month in September, enough Republican rats are going to scurry off the sinking ship that is the U.S.S. Bush to override a veto.

Then things will get interesting.

[OzmO]

This statement in the face of the deadliest month in 2 years.     

[headhuntersix]

Here's the problem....its working in some places....sorta..meaning they see a glimmer of hope..if it was a friggen failure we could call the game and go home.....plus now we have this ridiculous cease-fire thing....its all getting way to Vietnamish for me. At some point before  I retire..i want to be involved in a war..where we kick the dog snot outa the bad guys and win a clear cut victory..win the admiration of most of the world and fear from the rest and enjoya nice parade..too much to ask for....i joined the corp because of desert storm and we smoked em to damm fast. Who knew rags can;'t fight a conventional war.

[240 is Back]

I'm sure there are plenty of small victories over there.

Wow, what a confusing thing this war has become.  moving non-deadlines, ceasefires... and so much exaggerations from the right and the left here at home.

on the right you have the fearmongering.  on the left you have the drama queen exaggerations.

i guess both sides figure if you believe half of what they say, they'll win, so they go overboard. 

this war bores me now.  everytime i think i understand it there is some new element or direction.

[ribonucleic]

its all getting way to Vietnamish for me.

"Welcome to the party, pal."

[The Coach]

Can you guys see where this is going? 




US General Says He May Need More Time to Assess Iraq Surge
By Al Pessin
Pentagon
31 May 2007
 
Pessin report - Download 853k
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The U.S. ground forces commander in Iraq says he might need more time to assess the impact of the new security plan, beyond the September assessment President Bush and the Congress are expecting.  Lieutenant General Ray Odierno made the statement Thursday during a news conference via satellite with reporters at the Pentagon.  He also spoke about increased efforts to reach out to insurgent groups and a new threat some of his forces are facing as they move into new areas in and around Baghdad.  VOA's Al Pessin reports from the Pentagon.

General Odierno says the troop surge and the new approach to fighting the Iraqi insurgency are making progress, with increases in the number of coalition operations that find weapons caches, bomb factories and insurgent cells.  But he also says insurgents attack every day, and he cautions against excessive optimism.  The general says he might not be able to make even an initial assessment of the new strategy by September.

So Enigma, how much time do you think they need to make an assessment? one month, two months, 6 months?

[The Enigma]

So Enigma, how much time do you think they need to make an assessment? one month, two months, 6 months?

I personally believe the last 4 years is MORE than enough time to assess the situation in Iraq. Giving more time just prolongs the inevitable.

 

[240 is Back]

So Enigma, how much time do you think they need to make an assessment? one month, two months, 6 months?

September will be 9 months for Bush's Jan surge.

Joe, do you think 9 months is enough?

[The Enigma]

September will be 9 months for Bush's Jan surge.

Joe, do you think 9 months is enough?

Mr Hate, answer the question.

[The Coach]

September will be 9 months for Bush's Jan surge.

Joe, do you think 9 months is enough?

I don't know war strategy.......do you?

Some of you people seem to think that we'll be out of there entirely even after this thing ends, bottomline......we'll never be out completely

[The Enigma]

I don't know war strategy.......do you?

Yes, point gun and shoot. Reload if empty. 

[Laughing Sam's Dice]

At some point before  I retire..i want to be involved in a war..where we kick the dog snot outa the bad guys and win a clear cut victory..win the admiration of most of the world and fear from the rest and enjoya nice parade..too much to ask for....

Join the ACLU and help fight the fascism of the republican party. 

[The Coach]

Join the ACLU and help fight the fascism of the republican party. 

Haha..and people call me a hater!

[Laughing Sam's Dice]

and people call me a hater!

Why do you suppose that is, Joe?  Maybe you should do some self-reflection.

[militarymuscle69]

for four years all you hear is "bush didn't listen to his generals, bush didn't listen to his generals".....now his general's want more time and what do you hear? "Bush shouldn't listen to his generals yada yada yada....."

So what the fuck do you guys want?

[OzmO]

for four years all you hear is "bush didn't listen to his generals, bush didn't listen to his generals".....now his general's want more time and what do you hear? "Bush shouldn't listen to his generals yada yada yada....."

So what the fuck do you guys want?

Bush & Cheney to resign.

[The Coach]

Why do you suppose that is, Joe?  Maybe you should do some self-reflection.

LOL.............you guys hate much more than me, thats what's so funny about ieffinhatecardio's new name for me........talk about the pot......well, you know!

[Dos Equis]

for four years all you hear is "bush didn't listen to his generals, bush didn't listen to his generals".....now his general's want more time and what do you hear? "Bush shouldn't listen to his generals yada yada yada....."

So what the fuck do you guys want?

Good point MM.

[The Enigma]

LOL.............you guys hate much more than me,

Now that is funny. 

[AE]

At some point before  I retire..i want to be involved in a war..where we kick the dog snot outa the bad guys and win a clear cut victory..win the admiration of most of the world and fear from the rest and enjoya nice parade..too much to ask for...

It will be a war for the hearts and minds of US citizens. It will be election 2008 and the repugs will have the dog snot kicked out of them and the rest of the world will cheer and Hillary (or Al Gore) will lead the parade. 

[Al Doggity]

for four years all you hear is "bush didn't listen to his generals, bush didn't listen to his generals".....now his general's want more time and what do you hear? "Bush shouldn't listen to his generals yada yada yada....."

So what the fuck do you guys want?

No, people are saying "LISTEN TO YOUR GENERALS. This surge is not gonna be the cakewalk your predicting, just like nothing about this was has gone according to your poorly laid plans."

[militarymuscle69]

No, people are saying "LISTEN TO YOUR GENERALS. This surge is not gonna be the cakewalk your predicting, just like nothing about this was has gone according to your poorly laid plans."

so in the last few weeks, the generals have asked for MORE troops and time....do we give it to them?

[Tre]

we'll never be out completely

We will if the growing underclass rises up and demands we change our oil-based everything to something else.

[Tre]

So what the fuck do you guys want?

I want the CIC tried for treason.