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Marty Champions

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Marijuana releases the insulin while in a fasted state
« on: June 02, 2007, 03:03:54 PM »
means you are burning stored energy

look at this account from a young lad who has diabetes

I had not thought of acupuncture I will look into that one. I usually do not smoke till the evening myself. I do not like to smoke and drive so if I have anywhere to be that day I do not smoke till evening. If I am not going anywhere then I may toke in the morning and get ready to do the house chores. It is a nice way to do the everyday things that you really don't want to do ( dishes, vacuuming etc. ). If my numbers are higher than I want the smoking takes care of that within 15 or 20 minutes. Life is just much better with the use of Marijuana. My liver has given me problems with going into hyper activity when I sleep at night, of course which results in high numbers the next morning. Smoking calms this problem down and I don't get up with high numbers anymore. Nothing the white coats gave me ever worked...Amazing, Very Amazing
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Re: Marijuana releases the insulin while in a fasted state wich is good
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2007, 03:13:42 PM »
this is why you get the munchies basically, but if you follow up with alcohol if you eat something then the alcohol will kill any ill effects of a sugary meal. thats why i would reccomend something only slightly sweet with fat like icecream or pizza or  hamburger. the alcohol will lesson the insulin of the sugars
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Re: Marijuana releases the insulin while in a fasted state wich is good
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2007, 03:14:24 PM »
If I read you correct, you think you will burn fat (stored energy) while insulin is present?
Fasted state or not, any time insulin is present you are not burning fat!

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Re: Marijuana releases the insulin while in a fasted state wich is good
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2007, 03:18:24 PM »
If I read you correct, you think you will burn fat (stored energy) while insulin is present?
Fasted state or not, any time insulin is present you are not burning fat!

having insulin raised is having high sugars in the blood. basically it is utilizing food stored from the night before, its getting rid of it for energy, the marijuana high triggers this
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Re: Marijuana releases the insulin while in a fasted state wich is good
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2007, 03:19:42 PM »
having insulin raised is having high sugars in the blood. basically it is utilizing food stored from the night before, its getting rid of it for energy, the marijuana high triggers this

do you even undertand basic science?
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Re: Marijuana releases the insulin while in a fasted state wich is good
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2007, 03:21:52 PM »
do you even undertand basic science?

instead of kiddy insults explain to me how i am wrong.

you dont gain 'weight' if you are not putting food into your mouth. where is the weight going to come from?
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Re: Marijuana releases the insulin while in a fasted state wich is good
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2007, 03:36:47 PM »
do you even undertand basic science?

Obviously not!!!
He even posted his own answer (about burning sugars) and still doesn't understand it. :-\

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Re: Marijuana releases the insulin while in a fasted state wich is good
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2007, 03:38:35 PM »
Obviously not!!!
He even posted his own answer (about burning sugars) and still doesn't understand it. :-\

i think i know what im talking about, i have obsessed with knowing every detail
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Re: Marijuana releases the insulin while in a fasted state wich is good
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2007, 03:43:07 PM »
i think i know what im talking about, i have obsessed with knowing every detail

If this is sarcasm, I'm throwing tomatoes at your act and get the fuck off the stage or you're getting "the cane."
If you are serious, then you are really fucking dumb because a basic physiology class/book and beginners nutrition book will tell you that you cannot burn fat while insulin is present. Any time insulin is present, the fat cells are locked up and do not release their stored energy (aka fat!).

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Re: Marijuana releases the insulin while in a fasted state wich is good
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2007, 03:51:17 PM »
If this is sarcasm, I'm throwing tomatoes at your act and get the fuck off the stage or you're getting "the cane."
If you are serious, then you are really fucking dumb because a basic physiology class/book and beginners nutrition book will tell you that you cannot burn fat while insulin is present. Any time insulin is present, the fat cells are locked up and do not release their stored energy (aka fat!).



like i said how are you going to gain weight if you are fasted? there is nothing coming in only energy going out
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Re: Marijuana releases the insulin while in a fasted state wich is good
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2007, 03:56:08 PM »
energy's not "going out" with insulin release.  its "going in".
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Re: Marijuana releases the insulin while in a fasted state wich is good
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2007, 03:57:49 PM »

uhhhhh, really... ooooooooooook

daddy stop smoking buddy.........

are you delusional?

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Re: Marijuana releases the insulin while in a fasted state wich is good
« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2007, 03:59:23 PM »
I gotta find me a hook up at work.  I know they are all a bunch of stoners
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Re: Marijuana releases the insulin while in a fasted state wich is good
« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2007, 03:59:38 PM »
means you are burning stored energy

Here is your quote moron....stored energy is also known as body fat. Maybe you weren't being clear, but the above comment is the very basis for SP and I's argumentative stance towards you.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/losefatnow1.htm

Insulin activates several enzymes needed for fat gain, such as Fatty acid synthase (FAS) etc. It also increases glycogen stores. While this is a good thing for performance, it is a negative aspect for fat loss. When norepinephrine (NE, cfr part1) is released it will begin by acting as a glycolytic agent, that means it turns glycogen back to glucose. At this point that means the metabolically active cells are still using glucose since it is readily available, instead of burning fat.

I won't discuss this in detail, as we will revisit this aspect in the third instalment, but when glucose becomes low, ATP:AMP ratio (energy balance) drops and that activates AMPK, a Kinase that tells the mitochondria to burn fat for energy instead of glucose. At this point the FFA's produced by WAT (cfr part 1) can be burned).

Most bodybuilders are already aware of this, since they will not only lower calories during a diet, but lower mainly carbohydrates from the diet. This is because carbohydrates increase blood glucose and blood glucose elevates insulin. So in essence you already know that less insulin equals more fat loss.
 

glycolytic:  The metabolic breakdown of glucose and other sugars that releases energy in the form of ATP.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/dict.asp?Word=glycolytic

What do you have to say now? >:(


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Re: Marijuana releases the insulin while in a fasted state wich is good
« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2007, 05:55:15 PM »
Come on DaddyWaddy, what happened, where did you go? Did you magical argument potion wear off?

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Re: Marijuana releases the insulin while in a fasted state wich is good
« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2007, 06:02:10 PM »
Come on DaddyWaddy, what happened, where did you go? Did you magical argument potion wear off?

I think he went out back to "release insulin"

He'll be back with a bag of Cheetos, a Chocodile and a can of Mr. Pib in about 5 minutes.

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Re: Marijuana releases the insulin while in a fasted state wich is good
« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2007, 06:05:59 PM »


Physio 101

Insulin = Storage, not breakdown.


Sorry DW, but you're a$$ backwards ;D
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Re: Marijuana releases the insulin while in a fasted state wich is good
« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2007, 07:00:17 PM »
Does daddywaddy have a job? If so what is it?

I'm not trying slam him I'm actually curious.

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Re: Marijuana releases the insulin while in a fasted state wich is good
« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2007, 07:02:50 PM »
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Re: Marijuana releases the insulin while in a fasted state wich is good
« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2007, 07:12:03 PM »
Does daddywaddy have a job? If so what is it?

I'm not trying slam him I'm actually curious.
i heard he s a painter, i quess that smell of paint makes him high on its own, but when he smokes marihuana on top of that , he discoveres psyhodelic workouts with uneven weight on a barbell when doing curls :D

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Re: Marijuana releases the insulin while in a fasted state wich is good
« Reply #20 on: June 02, 2007, 07:14:57 PM »
Does daddywaddy have a job? If so what is it?

I'm not trying slam him I'm actually curious.

Being bi-polar and living in the parents basement doesn't exactly qualify as a job, does it? :P

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Re: Marijuana releases the insulin while in a fasted state wich is good
« Reply #21 on: June 02, 2007, 08:28:56 PM »

Physio 101

Insulin = Storage, not breakdown.


Sorry DW, but you're a$$ backwards ;D

insulin while simultaniously working out means you are banking energy in your muscles overall weight will be lighter but better proportionate to muscle than water
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Re: Marijuana releases the insulin while in a fasted state wich is good
« Reply #22 on: June 02, 2007, 08:49:15 PM »
God, you have no fuckin' clue what you're talking about....

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Re: Marijuana releases the insulin while in a fasted state wich is good
« Reply #23 on: June 02, 2007, 08:59:20 PM »
Could someone put this ape back in its cage?  :-\
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Re: Marijuana releases the insulin while in a fasted state wich is good
« Reply #24 on: June 02, 2007, 09:02:03 PM »
now that waddy is off the drugs, nobody cares anymore LOL