Author Topic: Brock Lesnars Debut & Sakuraba/Gracie 2 TONIGHT!!!! (Read 4770 times)

Bossa · « **on:** June 02, 2007, 05:48:04 PM »

I for one am giddy

Discuss

gordiano · « **Reply #1 on:** June 02, 2007, 10:40:31 PM »

How'd it go?

OneManGang · « **Reply #2 on:** June 02, 2007, 11:24:36 PM »

Lesnar is a beast. Very impressive.

americanbulldog · « **Reply #3 on:** June 03, 2007, 12:05:45 AM »

Quote from: OneManGang on June 02, 2007, 11:24:36 PM

Lesnar is a beast. Very impressive.

Yeah, great competition he fought against.

If he continues training with Nelson, he could be a force. He is extremely athletic, his striking could get exposed against someone like Vera, who can strike, grapple and has a decent guard. The Saku/Gracie fight could have gone either way.

K-1 · « **Reply #4 on:** June 03, 2007, 06:49:15 AM »

former nfl wr j.morton debut. Came out with nice intensity, but only trained hard for 2 months. I give him an A for effort. Let's see if he takes it a little more seriously now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no-qv-KdIU4

lesnar debut.

Bossa · « **Reply #5 on:** June 03, 2007, 08:43:55 AM »

Quote from: americanbulldog on June 03, 2007, 12:05:45 AM

Yeah, great competition he fought against. If he continues training with Nelson, he could be a force. He is extremely athletic, his striking could get exposed against someone like Vera, who can strike, grapple and has a decent guard. The Saku/Gracie fight could have gone either way.

That was not the Saku I am used to...he seemed like he didn't really care

*ChuteBoxe* · « **Reply #6 on:** June 03, 2007, 12:59:25 PM »

Brock is just big, with decent wrestling. Just about every top 20 Hw fighter would handle him easily.

20inch calves · « **Reply #7 on:** June 03, 2007, 02:49:24 PM »

i think he looked pretty good

Bossa · « **Reply #8 on:** June 03, 2007, 03:04:23 PM »

Quote from: pugalist666 on June 03, 2007, 02:56:40 PM

is it just me , or is brock lesnar half the size he used to be ? his legs look like tooth pics compared to his pro wrestling days , do you think this was on purpose to beef up his cardio and athletism or do you think hes just riddled with injury and not able to train the way he used to like ken shamrock

I think in both cases, especially Kens, its because they are relying on natural test levels at the moment

chaos · « **Reply #9 on:** June 03, 2007, 03:41:37 PM »

I'm not sure of the quality of Lesnars comp. for the night , but he did make Lesnar look impressive in his debut. Could those punches have that much effect in that tight? last one looked like a good shot, but he couldn't possibly have much to them, could he?

20inch calves · « **Reply #10 on:** June 03, 2007, 03:55:08 PM »

Quote from: chaos on June 03, 2007, 03:41:37 PM

I'm not sure of the quality of Lesnars comp. for the night , but he did make Lesnar look impressive in his debut. Could those punches have that much effect in that tight? last one looked like a good shot, but he couldn't possibly have much to them, could he?

his comp. clearly wasn't that good but lesnar still showed some skill. i think he could be pretty good someday.

onlyme · « **Reply #11 on:** June 04, 2007, 09:45:21 AM »

Lesnar looked pretty good

http://pandachute.com/videos/brock_lesnar_mma_debut_fight

coltrane · « **Reply #12 on:** June 04, 2007, 12:25:48 PM »

normally those types of punches thrown while in mount aren't too effective. But here, the dude tapped....you know those punches were hard as shit if he tapped from them...

OneManGang · « **Reply #13 on:** June 04, 2007, 07:52:01 PM »

Quote from: coltrane on June 04, 2007, 12:25:48 PM

normally those types of punches thrown while in mount aren't too effective. But here, the dude tapped....you know those punches were hard as shit if he tapped from them...

True. His GnP was very very good. Remember, Kim can take a punch. He took several clean punches from Mighty Mo and stayed on his feet for a while, before taking even more.

But it is too early to say how far he will go, but he won his fight dominating 100%. Fedor or Randy would not have done better. But how will Brock to against Fedor and Randy type of fighters, thats a big questionmark

SinCitysmallGUY · « **Reply #14 on:** June 04, 2007, 08:17:13 PM »

Quote from: OneManGang on June 04, 2007, 07:52:01 PM

True. His GnP was very very good. Remember, Kim can take a punch. He took several clean punches from Mighty Mo and stayed on his feet for a while, before taking even more.

But it is too early to say how far he will go, but he won his fight dominating 100%. Fedor or Randy would not have done better. But how will Brock to against Fedor and Randy type of fighters, thats a big questionmark

Brock will get exposed on his feet, for one we havent see what his chin can take. This is the big boy stuff, not wrestling. Punches don't get pulled in this sport. #2 I wasn't overly impressed with Brock's take downs. He was much larger then this guy. He isn't on roids though and I was a little suprised at how small he looked to his wrestling days. I guess the D-Bol wore off. I think Brock will be a mid level fighter at best... But we shall see what happens. I had my money on Crocop as well, so in this game you never know.

onlyme · « **Reply #15 on:** June 04, 2007, 08:24:40 PM »

Any vids of Royce's fight

OneManGang · « **Reply #16 on:** June 05, 2007, 02:34:19 AM »

Quote from: SinCitysmallGUY on June 04, 2007, 08:17:13 PM

Brock will get exposed on his feet, for one we havent see what his chin can take. This is the big boy stuff, not wrestling. Punches don't get pulled in this sport. #2 I wasn't overly impressed with Brock's take downs. He was much larger then this guy. He isn't on roids though and I was a little suprised at how small he looked to his wrestling days. I guess the D-Bol wore off. I think Brock will be a mid level fighter at best... But we shall see what happens. I had my money on Crocop as well, so in this game you never know.

What nonsense!

1. Exposed on his feet? Like fellow wrestlers Randy Couture and Dan Henderson? Or the judo/sambo guy named Fedor? You have not seen Brock's strikes or strike defense, and still you claim that he will be "exposed"?

2. Not "overly impressed" by his "takedowns"? There were only a TAKE DOWN in the singular sense. He attempted one take down after getting low kicked in his nuts, and he got the takedown against a silver medalist in judo on the first attempt. So 1/1 in takedowns..

3. "He will ony be a mid level fighter at best". Well....only a TUF noob with a roid damaged brain could make such a stupid statement at this stage. I bet you where one of the "experts" who claimed Brock would get submitted.

BGfnSCOOB · « **Reply #17 on:** June 05, 2007, 08:30:16 AM »

yeah gotta point out Chutebox....Lesnar was All American Wrestler at Univ Minnesota, hes got credentials when it comes to wrestling better than Randleman, Kerr, and Coleman....
now saying that , will it take him some time to put it all together , sure
i agree with you there
but he was an elite college . amateur wrestler , and a complete animal

now can he pass a steroid test

ahhhhhhh dunno

americanbulldog · « **Reply #18 on:** June 05, 2007, 02:19:15 PM »

Quote from: BGfnSCOOB on June 05, 2007, 08:30:16 AM

yeah gotta point out Chutebox....Lesnar was All American Wrestler at Univ Minnesota, hes got credentials when it comes to wrestling better than Randleman, Kerr, and Coleman....
now saying that , will it take him some time to put it all together , sure
i agree with you there
but he was an elite college . amateur wrestler , and a complete animal

now can he pass a steroid test

ahhhhhhh dunno

Randleman was a 3X all american who won 2 Div one titles, Brock won 1. Kerr, like Lesnar was a champion of Div 1 wrestling. Coleman, like Kerr and Lesnar is a Div 1 champion. BUT he did take seventh in the Olympics in 1992. He is training at a good school (Greg Nelson). Nelson is adept at Muay Thai, shootwrestling and a BJJ black belt, who won at the Pan Ams in 1999.

Lesnar should improve, if he keeps an open mind. He is a helluva athlete, incredibly strong, great balance. I don't expect him looking like Arjan Chai Sirisut anytime soon, but he should get better. Hopefully his management brings him along slowly, and allows his game to develop. Taking a big fight now wouldn't be the smartest thing. He could work up a couple of big paydays in the near future if brought along right.

antcraw · « **Reply #19 on:** June 05, 2007, 08:25:54 PM »

I'm just waiting for him to lose and see how he handles it. So far the guy hasn't shown much heart with his pro careers. He quit on WWE, went to Japan wrestling and quit on them, tried in NFL and quit instead of going to NFL Europe. So what will happen if he doesn't do as well as he thinks he will do? or has a bad loss? Can't teach heart.

americanbulldog · « **Reply #20 on:** June 06, 2007, 01:00:17 AM »

Quote from: pugalist666 on June 06, 2007, 12:54:05 AM

id like to see him get back on as much gear as possible and fight at 290
they need to stop posting his height at 6'2 hes like 6'4

I'd like to see him in Bodog. He could be fighting Aleks, and maybe his bro as well. K-1s heavys are kinda thin.

onlyme · « **Reply #21 on:** June 06, 2007, 10:55:37 AM »

Hey Kev, how come Hawaii doesn't have a team in the IFL. We would kick ass.

americanbulldog · « **Reply #22 on:** June 06, 2007, 02:58:44 PM »

^^^I would assume the cost of holding events in Hawaii (plane fair, accomodations) would make it prohibitively expensive. You could get Enson/Egan to coach, you'd have Niko, Ron Jhun, Ray Cooper, Harris Sarmiento, etc... available and not under contract. Lots of good fighters.

onlyme · « **Reply #23 on:** June 06, 2007, 11:49:32 PM »

Quote from: americanbulldog on June 06, 2007, 02:58:44 PM

^^^I would assume the cost of holding events in Hawaii (plane fair, accomodations) would make it prohibitively expensive. You could get Enson/Egan to coach, you'd have Niko, Ron Jhun, Ray Cooper, Harris Sarmiento, etc... available and not under contract. Lots of good fighters.

I thought the events were on the mainland. Does each team have to hold an event too.

americanbulldog · « **Reply #24 on:** June 07, 2007, 12:04:16 AM »

Quote from: onlyme on June 06, 2007, 11:49:32 PM

I thought the events were on the mainland. Does each team have to hold an event too.

Both home and away "games."