Author Topic: DILLET vs DORIAN (Read 39715 times)

jaejonna · « **Reply #125 on:** June 07, 2007, 08:20:52 AM »

It will be years before true appreciation of Ronnie Coleman will ever be realized..

pumpster · « **Reply #126 on:** June 07, 2007, 08:22:03 AM »

Yates looks beefy but good here-until in over his head against someone much better..

Saxon · « **Reply #127 on:** June 07, 2007, 08:29:46 AM »

Quote from: pobrecito on June 04, 2007, 09:01:09 PM

No living human being has ever been this dehydrated...holy shit

Great shot.

As for this thread, people should go watch a video of Dillet trying to pose and you will see why he never beat Dorian.

IceCold · « **Reply #128 on:** June 07, 2007, 08:33:41 AM »

Quote from: jaejonna on June 07, 2007, 08:20:52 AM

It will be years before true appreciation of Ronnie Coleman will ever be realized..

who doesnt appreciate coleman?

he's an 8 time olympia winner.

IceCold · « **Reply #129 on:** June 07, 2007, 08:34:49 AM »

Quote from: Saxon on June 07, 2007, 08:29:46 AM

Great shot.

As for this thread, people should go watch a video of Dillet trying to pose and you will see why he never beat Dorian.

hulkster, can you read??

local hero · « **Reply #130 on:** June 07, 2007, 09:22:14 AM »

dillet couldnt stand still let alone pose,,, only balck man born with no rythm.... dorian was the man in the early 90's.. levrone, nasser and flex were very close tho... dillet wasnt even close to the aformentioned group above.. as much as u all slate dorian, he was domminent in one of the strongest peroids of competitive bodybuilding, youl never get olympia line ups like that again!

natural al · « **Reply #131 on:** June 07, 2007, 09:37:16 AM »

Quote from: Saxon on June 07, 2007, 08:29:46 AM

Great shot.

As for this thread, people should go watch a video of Dillet trying to pose and you will see why he never beat Dorian.

dillet was initially more impressive than dorian meaning when they are just standing in the relaxed pose he kills him....well Paul really kills almost everyone in the front relaxed pose but paul really did a shitty job on his manditories for the most part, only one where he looked fantastic in was ab and thigh, another guy who just never learned how to pose. I'm NOT saying he was better or worse than Dorian what I'm saying is Dorian had all of his ducks in a row so to speak and paul didn't, even hurt dorian looked good in alot of manditories and knew how to present himself waaaaay better than paul.

mesmorph78 · « **Reply #132 on:** June 07, 2007, 09:48:22 AM »

Quote from: IceCold on June 07, 2007, 08:11:52 AM

1 person agrees with you, meso, and you think its everyone.

notice the # of people saying how retarted you are for your comments.

hammer, local hero, zugzwang, camel jockey, phyyxsius, etc.

look at the # of people who owned you.

mmm wsup ice cold...
listen i dont really care how many people agree with me
i have my own eyes....

question for you
answer honestly
who wins on the below bodyparts dorian or paul
bi's
tris
delts?
back?
chest?
hams?
quads?
conditioning?
size?
balance
.. if dorian... name comes up more than pauls... then he is better...
and vica versa...
thats how i think... i dont care if everyone in the free world says one thing..
i use my own eyes and come up with my own conclusions...based on my judgements...
any my eyes tell me on that list.. paul name would apper more times than dorian...
..
if it was just the one bodypart back we wrere judging both phsyiques on.. then dorian wins..
any other bodypart... he loses..
just my opinion

IceCold · « **Reply #133 on:** June 07, 2007, 09:55:00 AM »

Quote from: mesmorph78 on June 07, 2007, 09:48:22 AM

mmm wsup ice cold...
listen i dont really care how many people agree with me
i have my own eyes....

question for you
answer honestly
who wins on the below bodyparts dorian or paul
bi's
tris
delts?
back?
chest?
hams?
quads?
conditioning?
size?
balance
.. if dorian... name comes up more than pauls... then he is better...
and vica versa...
thats how i think... i dont care if everyone in the free world says one thing..
i use my own eyes and come up with my own conclusions...based on my judgements...
any my eyes tell me on that list.. paul name would apper more times than dorian...
..
if it was just the one bodypart back we wrere judging both phsyiques on.. then dorian wins..
any other bodypart... he loses..
just my opinion

that's fine if you have your opinion.

paul had great arms, delts, and legs.

but his total package was the problem.

its not a contest of individual bodyparts, but the overall package.

if someone is not in shape and cant pose.....

by the yay, paul was 6'1 and competed at 275, yates was 2 inches shorter and was 260.

like i said before, it's not just paul vs. dorian - it be different if paul got 2nd to dorian.

but EVERYONE beat paul.

what does that tell you?

pumpster · « **Reply #134 on:** June 07, 2007, 09:58:36 AM »

Quote from: IceCold on June 07, 2007, 09:55:00 AM

that's fine if you have your opinion.

paul had great arms, delts, and legs.

but his total package was the problem.

its not a contest of individual bodyparts, but the overall package.

if someone is not in shape and cant pose.....

by the yay, paul was 6'1 and competed at 275, yates was 2 inches shorter and was 260.

like i said before, it's not just paul vs. dorian - it be different if paul got 2nd to dorian.

but EVERYONE beat paul.

what does that tell you?

Take a hint: the number of desperate posts & excuses changes nothing-Yates dominated..

IceCold · « **Reply #135 on:** June 07, 2007, 10:05:50 AM »

Quote from: mesmorph78 on June 07, 2007, 09:48:22 AM

mmm wsup ice cold...
listen i dont really care how many people agree with me
i have my own eyes....

question for you
answer honestly
who wins on the below bodyparts dorian or paul
bi's
tris
delts?
back?
chest?
hams?
quads?
conditioning?
size?
balance
.. if dorian... name comes up more than pauls... then he is better...
and vica versa...
thats how i think... i dont care if everyone in the free world says one thing..
i use my own eyes and come up with my own conclusions...based on my judgements...
any my eyes tell me on that list.. paul name would apper more times than dorian...
..
if it was just the one bodypart back we wrere judging both phsyiques on.. then dorian wins..
any other bodypart... he loses..
just my opinion

my opinion

yates better triceps (cue side chest pose), back, calves, chest (paul just had those veins), conditioning, and balance - paul could not pose and his back was totally out of proportion - in ever shot. dorian's arms look totally in proportion in some shots. that's the difference.
you listed 10 things, i give 6 to dorian.

again just opinions.

but, look at the number of contests dorian won and the # of contests paul lost.

most of the shows paul lost dorian did not even compete it.

i will post a quote from paul himself stating that yates in 95 was the best thing he's seen on a bodybuilding stage.

IceCold · « **Reply #136 on:** June 07, 2007, 10:06:57 AM »

Quote from: pumpster on June 07, 2007, 09:58:36 AM

Take a hint: the number of desperate posts & excuses changes nothing-Yates dominated..

you post the dumbest replies.

shawn is doing a side chest shot, paul is showing his midsection, and yates isnt even posing or facing the camera.

nice job.

Palpatine Q · « **Reply #137 on:** June 07, 2007, 10:15:27 AM »

Quote from: pobrecito on June 04, 2007, 02:00:55 PM

Dillet was nothing but an inflated baloon: roid megadosing and synthol/esilclene....he shriveled down to 160lbs when he came off the sauce LOL

As opposed to the rest of the guys, who were natty.

Platz · « **Reply #138 on:** June 07, 2007, 10:48:36 AM »

pumpster · « **Reply #139 on:** June 07, 2007, 10:50:16 AM »

Quote from: Groink on June 07, 2007, 10:15:27 AM

As opposed to the rest of the guys, who were natty.

hahahahaahah massive pubes fantasy #358.

pumpster · « **Reply #140 on:** June 07, 2007, 10:51:32 AM »

Quote from: IceCold on June 07, 2007, 10:06:57 AM

you post the dumbest replies.

shawn is doing a side chest shot, paul is showing his midsection, and yates isnt even posing or facing the camera.

nice job.

Ya, Yates looks great there doesn't he? hahaahahh notice how ice just happens to leave out that Yates' pot is sticking out and he looks like shit i wonder why?

IceCold · « **Reply #141 on:** June 07, 2007, 10:55:16 AM »

Quote from: pumpster on June 07, 2007, 10:51:32 AM

Ya, Yates looks great there doesn't he? hahaahahh notice how ice just happens to leave out that Yates' pot is sticking out and he looks like shit i wonder why?

so i guess you still havent noticed yates isnt flexing?

extremely pathetic that you expect anyone to take you seriously when you post worthless shit like that.

at least have a bber flex when trying to make a point.

why not take a picture of dorian while sleeping and say the samething.

pumpster · « **Reply #142 on:** June 07, 2007, 10:56:51 AM »

Quote from: IceCold on June 07, 2007, 10:55:16 AM

so i guess you still havent noticed yates isnt flexing?

extremely pathetic that you expect anyone to take you seriously when you post worthless shit like that.

at least have a bber flex when trying to make a point.

why not take a picture of dorian while sleeping and say the samething.

And here? Same conclusion genius.

Notice also that Dillet's "weak back" includes lats that were far wider & better taper to go with arms that make Yates' look like sticks. The only problem with Dillet's back was detail, not width or taper where he's beating Yates easily.

mesmorph78 · « **Reply #143 on:** June 07, 2007, 12:45:54 PM »

wsup ice cold...
i agree bodybuilding isnt about individual parts... but a combination of parts
...which is why i think yates should never have beaten shawn flex kevin or paul...
the whole yates reign was based on one bodypart...
i cant think of a top 10 bber in that era who didnt have a better overall better build than dorian
what a lot of people fail to understand is... its not all about bodyweight.. its how much you look like u weigh..
what if u didnt know how much dorian weighed...or paul weighed.. how do the look like the wigh that is key...
look at wheeler.. 230.... 220 and his arms DWARVED dorians....its all about muscle insertons and shape... not oh i weigh 300 anybody can say i weigh this or that bbers lie about it all the time...
its all about how u carry the weight...
and dorians 260 or whatever look like crap compared to flex's 230
did dorian have better arms than
kevin shawn priest dillet.. no
did he have a better chest? no
better abs? no
better delts? no
better back yes...

IceCold · « **Reply #144 on:** June 07, 2007, 12:52:22 PM »

Quote from: mesmorph78 on June 07, 2007, 12:45:54 PM

wsup ice cold...
i agree bodybuilding isnt about individual parts... but a combination of parts
...which is why i think yates should never have beaten shawn flex kevin or paul...
the whole yates reign was based on one bodypart...
i cant think of a top 10 bber in that era who didnt have a better overall better build than dorian
what a lot of people fail to understand is... its not all about bodyweight.. its how much you look like u weigh..
what if u didnt know how much dorian weighed...or paul weighed.. how do the look like the wigh that is key...
look at wheeler.. 230.... 220 and his arms DWARVED dorians....its all about muscle insertons and shape... not oh i weigh 300 anybody can say i weigh this or that bbers lie about it all the time...
its all about how u carry the weight...
and dorians 260 or whatever look like crap compared to flex's 230
did dorian have better arms than
kevin shawn priest dillet.. no
did he have a better chest? no
better abs? no
better delts? no
better back yes...

true, but no one matched dorian's size AND conditioning.

that's why he won.

sure, lots of guys have better bodyparts and looked better in some poses.

but once every angle, every pose, etc. matched with dorian's unmatched density and conditioning, that's why he won.

there used to be a posedown clip on youtube from 95 and his density and conditioning were clearly apparent, much more so than pictures.

at first, i only saw dorian on film, and that's what i remember - not the pictures.

its been noted by some writers that some guys look better on film than pictures and vice versa.

dorian was unique in that his strengths were unusual and his weaknesses were the strengths of guys in the past - big biceps etc.

for instance, you find a better bber from head to toe in the side tricep pose - every bodypart included - even compared to other guys who delts, chest, etc. look better in other poses.

this pic is a perfect example.

paul and kevin may have some individual parts that are better, but overall yates is better - he has more density and condition. for some reason, the judges found that to be an unbeatable combo.

also, if guys like paul, kevin, etc. who were fairly equal in size to dorian, would have had to come in much smaller to match dorian's conditioning.

Hulkster · « **Reply #145 on:** June 07, 2007, 04:32:25 PM »

you call this "size and conditioning"?

not on this planet.

maybe on Mars.

Hulkster · « **Reply #146 on:** June 07, 2007, 04:35:01 PM »

Quote from: mesmorph78 on June 07, 2007, 12:45:54 PM

wsup ice cold...
i agree bodybuilding isnt about individual parts... but a combination of parts
...which is why i think yates should never have beaten shawn flex kevin or paul...
the whole yates reign was based on one bodypart...
i cant think of a top 10 bber in that era who didnt have a better overall better build than dorian
what a lot of people fail to understand is... its not all about bodyweight.. its how much you look like u weigh..
what if u didnt know how much dorian weighed...or paul weighed.. how do the look like the wigh that is key...
look at wheeler.. 230.... 220 and his arms DWARVED dorians....its all about muscle insertons and shape... not oh i weigh 300 anybody can say i weigh this or that bbers lie about it all the time...
its all about how u carry the weight...
and dorians 260 or whatever look like crap compared to flex's 230
did dorian have better arms than
kevin shawn priest dillet.. no
did he have a better chest? no
better abs? no
better delts? no
better back yes...

exactly. the nuthuggers will never get it.

How they look is key:

Hulkster · « **Reply #147 on:** June 07, 2007, 04:35:42 PM »

even chris 99 looked owned dorian from the front lol

IceCold · « **Reply #148 on:** June 07, 2007, 04:49:54 PM »

Quote from: Hulkster on June 07, 2007, 04:35:01 PM

exactly. the nuthuggers will never get it.

How they look is key:

when will you understand that what you interpret is not true and only your opinion?

if ronnie was so great, he wouldnt have been dorian's bitch for 7 years.

yates turned pro and immediately dominated.

IceCold · « **Reply #149 on:** June 07, 2007, 04:57:58 PM »

Quote from: Hulkster on June 07, 2007, 04:32:25 PM

you call this "size and conditioning"?

not on this planet.

maybe on Mars.

are you dumb, blind, or both?