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Our Muslim brothers
« on: June 06, 2007, 08:37:07 AM »

Came across this and thought that LSD and his band of  ;D wackjobs would be interested.....


Muslims at war with the world…
Areas w/ current conflicts Groups Involved What the Mulims want
Afghanistan Muslims & Non-Muslims A pure Islamic society
Extreme radical fundamentalist want a pure Islamic society in Afghanistan…
EU Muslims & the world World domination
Muslims want the EU out of Iraq & to destroy western civilization and have Islam sweep the EU…
India Muslims & Hindus Religious sites
Muslims are fighting over historic Muslim religious sites through out the country…
Indonesia Muslims & Christians Gov’t control
Muslims want to drive out Christians in the Province of Halmahera…
Iraq Muslims (Shiite & Sunni) & Kurds Gov’t control
Muslims are fighting over gov’t control and fundamental beliefs through out the country…
Israel Muslims & Jews Extermination & Land
Muslims want to exterminate the Jews and to take their land…
Kashmir Muslims & Hindus Control & Land
Muslims would like Kashmir to fall under Pakistan’s jurisdiction…
Kurdistan Muslims & Christians Gov’t control
Muslims want to drive out Christians and take gov’t control…
Maldives Muslims & Non-Muslims A pure Islamic society
Extreme radical fundamentalist want a pure Islamic society in the Maldives…
Nigeria Muslims & Christians Gov’t control
Muslims in the N. are battling Christians in the S. trying to maintain a military dictatorship…
Pakistan Muslims (Sunni & Shiite) Religious Beliefs
Muslims are fighting over gov’t control and fundamental beliefs through out the country…
Palestine Muslims & Jews Extermination & Land
Muslims want to exterminate the Jews and to take their land and hand it to Palestine…
Philippines Muslims & Christians Gov’t control
Muslims in the S. are battling Christians in the N. trying to seek gov’t control…
Russia Muslims & Christians Gov’t control
Chechnya wants autonomy and has vowed to blow up every Christian church in Russia…
Sudan Muslims & Christians Gov’t control
The Muslim regime wants absolute control and has committed Genocide in the country…
U.S. Muslims & the world World domination
Muslims want the U.S out of the Middle East and to destroy western civilization and have Islam
sweep the EU…
These are just a handful of ongoing Muslim wars around the world. The
general consensus from this information compiled clearly shows that what
the Muslims want is Islamic control of the world and death to all who refuse
to convert!!!
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Re: Our Muslim brothers
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2007, 08:40:06 AM »
bad evil people ..they must have the evil gene..
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Re: Our Muslim brothers
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2007, 08:46:27 AM »
Recent Terror Attacks or Attempts In The U.S.
March 2006 - Mohammed Taheri-azar, a 22-year-old UNC-CH graduate is
charged with nine counts of attempted first-degree murder and nine counts of
assault with a deadly weapon with intent to kill, inflicting serious injury after
driving a Jeep Cherokee sport utility vehicle through a crowded campus plaza,
injuring nine people.
July 2006 - Naveed Afzal Haq gained access to the Jewish Federation of
Greater Seattle building by holding a 13-year-old girl hostage with a gun to her
back and ordering her to dial the intercom and request to be buzzed into the
building. After entering, he allegedly began shooting. Pamela Waechter was
killed. Layla Bush was critically wounded. Dayna Klein, Cheryl Stumbo, Carol
Goldman, and Christina Rexroad were wounded.At the time of the shooting, it
was reported by witnesses that Haq announced, "I am a Muslim American, angry
at Israel."During the incident, Haq also talked to 911 operators, saying, "These
are Jews and I'm tired of getting pushed around and our people getting pushed
around by the situation in the Middle East."
August 2006 - As many as 14 people were injured by Omeed Aziz Popal who
drove around San Francisco deliberately running them down before being
arrested by police, who believe the same driver struck and killed a man earlier
today in Fremont. Popal called himself a terrorist and his SUV struck two people
in front of the Jewish Community Center of San Francisco on California Street.
December 2006 - A 22-year-old Muslim convert Derrick Shareef was accused of
plotting an attack at a Rockford, Illinois shopping mall. Federal authorities claim
was willing to die committing acts of "violent jihad."
February 2007 - An 18-year-old Bosnian Muslim refugee gunman, Sulejmen
Talovic, killed five people in a crowded Utah shopping mall and was prepared to
kill many more, according to invest investigators.
May 2007 - A group of six radical Islamist men, who were plotting to stage an
attack on the Fort Dix military base in New Jersey were arrested by the Federal
Bureau of Investigation on May 7, 2007. They were subsequently charged with
planning an attack against U.S. soldiers. The alleged aim of the six men was
said to be to "kill as many soldiers as possible"
June 2007 - Suspected terrorist cell plotted to bomb 40-mile pipeline that fueled
John F. Kennedy International Airport, destroying one of the nation's busiest
airports and killing thousands. Abdul Kadir of Guyana, a former member of the
Guyana parliament, and Kareem Ibrahim of Trinidad, are in custody in Trinidad.
Abdel Nur of Guyana, the only one of four suspects who was still at large, turned
himself in shortly after midday at a police station in Diego Martin in western
Trinidad.



I just wuv them so much.....geeze how come countries like UAE or Qatar or even Kuwait are content enough to just get rich..with a little patience the Iraqi's could be like this. Iran was progressing until nutbag started his ranting.
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Re: Our Muslim brothers
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2007, 08:19:41 AM »
you're right religion is evil - let's get rid of it

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Re: Our Muslim brothers
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2007, 09:02:57 AM »
what if these muslims said they weren't doing it in the name of religion and lied and said they did it for the greater good..

wait..then they'd be bible thumping christians..


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Re: Our Muslim brothers
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2007, 09:15:44 AM »
you're right religion is evil - let's get rid of it
I think our hands aren't clean in this either.  Here's the US at war in the world.

Here's some lists to pour over:  http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/index.html

Here're the conflicts just from Post-Cold War:


Completed Post Cold War Operations
                         Locale                            Dates                 
Unified Assistance Indian Ocean                  Jan 2005 ??? 2005
Secure Tomorrow Haiti                               29 Feb 2004 01 Jun 2004
Shining Express Liberia                               Jun 2003 Jul 2003
Shepherd Sentry Central African Republic       30 Oct 2002 xx Nov 2002
Autumn Return Ivory Coast                         24 Sep 02 04 Oct 2002
Avid Recovery Nigeria                                 27 Jan 02 15 Apr 2002
Focus Relief Ghana & Senegal                      May 2001 Aug 2001 
Sierra Leone NEO Sierra Leone                     May 2000 May 2000
Silent Promise / Atlas Response Mozambique / South Africa Feb 2000 ? Apr 2000 
Fundamental Response Venezuela                20 Dec 1999 early 2000 
Stabilize Timor                                         11 Sep 1999 Nov 1999 
Avid Response Turkey                               18 Aug 1999 Sep 1999 
Strong Support [Fuerte Apoyo] Central America Oct 1998 10 Feb 1999
Infinite Reach Sudan / Afganistan               20 Aug 1998 20 Aug 1998 
Resolute Response Africa                           07 Aug 1998 31 Aug 1999
Shepherd Venture Guinea-Bissau                  10 Jun 1998 17 Jun 1998 130
Safe Departure Asmara, Eritrea NEO             05 Jun 1998 06 Jun 1998 130
Bevel Incline Indonesia                               May 1998 May 1998 
Solar Sunrise USA                                     1 Feb 1998 26 Feb 1998 
Noble Response Kenya                               21 Jan 1998 25 Mar 1998 
Bevel Edge Cambodia                                 Jul 1997 Jul 1997 
Noble Obelisk Sierra Leone                         May 1997 Jun 1997 
Guardian Retrieval Congo (formerly Zaire)      Mar 1997 Jun 1997 
Silver Wake Albania                                  14 Mar 1997 26 Mar 1997 
Assured Lift Liberia                                   18 Feb 1997 7 Mar 1997 
Present Haven Guantanamo Bay                  Feb 1997 Feb 1997 
Guardian Assistance
Assurance / Phoenix Tusk  Zaire/Rwanda/Uganda 15 Nov 1996 27 Dec 1996 
Quick Response Central African Republic       May 1996 Aug 1996 
Assured Response Liberia                           Apr 1996 Aug 1996 
Marathon Atlantic Ocean                           1996 1996 
Zorro II Mexico                                        Dec 1995 02 May 1996 
Third Taiwan Straits Crisis Taiwan Strait       21 Jul 1995 23 Mar 1996 
Operation Marathon Pacific
Operation Prompt Return                            95 Wake Island 3 Jul 1995 10 Aug 1995 
Safe Border Peru / Ecuador                        1995 30 Jun 1999 
United Shield Somalia                                03 Jan 1995 25 Mar 1995 4,000
Uphold/Restore Democracy Haiti                 19 Sep 1994 31 Mar 1995
Quiet Resolve / Support Hope Rwanda          22 Jul 1994 30 Sep 1994 2,592
Safe Haven / Safe Passage
Sea Signal / JTF-160 Cuba > Panama
Haiti > Guantanamo, Cuba                       06 Sep 1994, May 1994 01 Mar 1995, Feb 1996 
Able Vigil Cuba                                      19 Aug 1994 23 Sep 1994   
Distant Runner Rwanda NEO                     9 Apr 1994 15 Apr 1994 
Quick Draw Somalia                                ?? 1994 ?? 1994 
Korean Nuclear Crisis  North Korea            10 Feb 1993 Jun 1994 
Able Manner Haiti > Guantanamo, Cuba      15 Jan 1993 26 Nov 1994 
[none]  Liberian NEO                               22 Oct 1992 25 Oct 1992 
Provide Relief
Restore Hope
Continue Hope Somalia                          14 Aug 1992
                                                         4 Dec 1992
                                                         4 May 1993 8 Dec 1992
                                                         4 May 1993
                                                         Dec 1993 ??
Provide Transition Angola                        3 Aug 1992 9 Oct 1992 
Garden Plot Los Angeles, CA                    May 1992  4,500
Silver Anvil  Sierra Leone NEO                  2 May 1992 5 May 1992 
Provide Hope I
Provide Hope II
Provide Hope III
Provide Hope IV
Provide Hope V  Former Soviet Union        10 Feb 1992
                                                         15 Apr 1992, 1993, 10 Jan 1994, 06 Nov                                                    1992,29  Feb, Jul 1992
? 1993
19 Dec 1994
10 May 1999 
GTMO
Safe Harbor Haiti > Guantanamo, Cuba       23 Nov 1991 1992   
Quick Lift Zaire                                      24 Sep 1991 07 Oct 1991 
Victor Squared Haiti NEO                         Sep 1991   
Fiery Vigil Philippines NEO                         June 1991   
Productive Effort / Sea Angel Bangladesh    May 1991 Jun 1991 
Eastern Exit Somalia                               02 Jan 1991 11 Jan 1991 
Desert Shield
Imminent Thunder
Proven Force
DESERT STORM
Desert Sting
DESERT SWORD / DESERT SABRE
Positive Force
Desert Calm
Desert Farewell  Southwest Asia             02 Aug 1990
                                                        Nov 1990
                                                          17 Jan 1991
                                                       29 Jan 1991, 24 Feb 1991, Summer 1991, 01 Mar                                               1992 17 Jan 1991
                                                    Nov 1990
                                                    28 Feb 1991
                                                    29 Jan 1991
Steel Box / Golden Python Johnston Island  26 Jul 1990 18 Nov 1990 
Sharp Edge Liberia                             May 1990 8 Jan 1991 


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Re: Our Muslim brothers
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2007, 09:28:06 AM »
I think our hands aren't clean in this either.  Here's the US at war in the world.

Here's some lists to pour over:  ...



but it wasn't for religion..it ws for greed..soo that makes it ok...in the bible thumper eyes..dontcha know  :)

greed is A-ok in christianity ..or so i'm led to believe..
muslims who consider christians "people of the book" and "bretheren" aren't..


whitie bible thumper dont likey it when me turneth the table.. ;D
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Re: Our Muslim brothers
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2007, 12:28:16 PM »
Muslims - evil, uneducated scum.  A good argument for the use of nuclear weapons.

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Re: Our Muslim brothers
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2007, 01:29:38 PM »
Ah Decker..how many of those operations were humanitarian..or as part of a UN mandated operation. Plus anything thats a NEO is US marines evac'ing an embassy or us civilians. This is hardly the same thing. Debate or hate the war all u want...same with Bush but don't compare us to the Jihadists.
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Re: Our Muslim brothers
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2007, 01:42:32 PM »
Ah Decker..how many of those operations were humanitarian..or as part of a UN mandated operation. Plus anything thats a NEO is US marines evac'ing an embassy or us civilians. This is hardly the same thing. Debate or hate the war all u want...same with Bush but don't compare us to the Jihadists.
That's a list of US foreign military excursions.  That covers only about 17 years. 

I add these things to point out that maybe others see us as kind of crazy too.  Look at this shit just from the CIA (it is not humanitarian aid):

1945

Operation PAPERCLIP – While other American agencies are hunting down Nazi war criminals for arrest, the U.S. intelligence community is smuggling them into America, unpunished, for their use against the Soviets. The most important of these is Reinhard Gehlen, Hitler’s master spy who had built up an intelligence network in the Soviet Union. With full U.S. blessing, he creates the "Gehlen Organization," a band of refugee Nazi spies who reactivate their networks in Russia. These include SS intelligence officers Alfred Six and Emil Augsburg (who massacred Jews in the Holocaust), Klaus Barbie (the "Butcher of Lyon"), Otto von Bolschwing (the Holocaust mastermind who worked with Eichmann) and SS Colonel Otto Skorzeny (a personal friend of Hitler’s). The Gehlen Organization supplies the U.S. with its only intelligence on the Soviet Union for the next ten years, serving as a bridge between the abolishment of the OSS and the creation of the CIA. However, much of the "intelligence" the former Nazis provide is bogus. Gehlen inflates Soviet military capabilities at a time when Russia is still rebuilding its devastated society, in order to inflate his own importance to the Americans (who might otherwise punish him). In 1948, Gehlen almost convinces the Americans that war is imminent, and the West should make a preemptive strike. In the 50s he produces a fictitious "missile gap." To make matters worse, the Russians have thoroughly penetrated the Gehlen Organization with double agents, undermining the very American security that Gehlen was supposed to protect.

1947
Greece — President Truman requests military aid to Greece to support right-wing forces fighting communist rebels. For the rest of the Cold War, Washington and the CIA will back notorious Greek leaders with deplorable human rights records.  CIA created — President Truman signs the National Security Act of 1947, creating the Central Intelligence Agency and National Security Council. The CIA is accountable to the president through the NSC — there is no democratic or congressional oversight. Its charter allows the CIA to "perform such other functions and duties… as the National Security Council may from time to time direct." This loophole opens the door to covert action and dirty tricks.

1948
Covert-action wing created — The CIA recreates a covert action wing, innocuously called the Office of Policy Coordination, led by Wall Street lawyer Frank Wisner. According to its secret charter, its responsibilities include "propaganda, economic warfare, preventive direct action, including sabotage, antisabotage, demolition and evacuation procedures; subversion against hostile states, including assistance to underground resistance groups, and support of indigenous anti-communist elements in threatened countries of the free world."

Italy — The CIA corrupts democratic elections in Italy, where Italian communists threaten to win the elections. The CIA buys votes, broadcasts propaganda, threatens and beats up opposition leaders, and infiltrates and disrupts their organizations. It works -- the communists are defeated.

1949
Radio Free Europe — The CIA creates its first major propaganda outlet, Radio Free Europe. Over the next several decades, its broadcasts are so blatantly false that for a time it is considered illegal to publish transcripts of them in the U.S.

Late 40s
Operation MOCKINGBIRD — The CIA begins recruiting American news organizations and journalists to become spies and disseminators of propaganda. The effort is headed by Frank Wisner, Allan Dulles, Richard Helms and Philip Graham. Graham is publisher of The Washington Post, which becomes a major CIA player. Eventually, the CIA’s media assets will include ABC, NBC, CBS, Time, Newsweek, Associated Press, United Press International, Reuters, Hearst Newspapers, Scripps-Howard, Copley News Service and more. By the CIA’s own admission, at least 25 organizations and 400 journalists will become CIA assets.

1953
Iran – CIA overthrows the democratically elected Mohammed Mossadegh in a military coup, after he threatened to nationalize British oil. The CIA replaces him with a dictator, the Shah of Iran, whose secret police, SAVAK, is as brutal as the Gestapo.

Operation MK-ULTRA — Inspired by North Korea’s brainwashing program, the CIA begins experiments on mind control. The most notorious part of this project involves giving LSD and other drugs to American subjects without their knowledge or against their will, causing several to commit suicide. However, the operation involves far more than this. Funded in part by the Rockefeller and Ford foundations, research includes propaganda, brainwashing, public relations, advertising, hypnosis, and other forms of suggestion.

1954

Guatemala — CIA overthrows the democratically elected Jacob Arbenz in a military coup. Arbenz has threatened to nationalize the Rockefeller-owned United Fruit Company, in which CIA Director Allen Dulles also owns stock. Arbenz is replaced with a series of right-wing dictators whose bloodthirsty policies will kill over 100,000 Guatemalans in the next 40 years.

1954-1958

North Vietnam — CIA officer Edward Lansdale spends four years trying to overthrow the communist government of North Vietnam, using all the usual dirty tricks. The CIA also attempts to legitimize a tyrannical puppet regime in South Vietnam, headed by Ngo Dinh Diem. These efforts fail to win the hearts and minds of the South Vietnamese because the Diem government is opposed to true democracy, land reform and poverty reduction measures. The CIA’s continuing failure results in escalating American intervention, culminating in the Vietnam War.

1956

Hungary — Radio Free Europe incites Hungary to revolt by broadcasting Khruschev’s Secret Speech, in which he denounced Stalin. It also hints that American aid will help the Hungarians fight. This aid fails to materialize as Hungarians launch a doomed armed revolt, which only invites a major Soviet invasion. The conflict kills 7,000 Soviets and 30,000 Hungarians.

1957-1973

Laos — The CIA carries out approximately one coup per year trying to nullify Laos’ democratic elections. The problem is the Pathet Lao, a leftist group with enough popular support to be a member of any coalition government. In the late 50s, the CIA even creates an "Armee Clandestine" of Asian mercenaries to attack the Pathet Lao. After the CIA’s army suffers numerous defeats, the U.S. starts bombing, dropping more bombs on Laos than all the U.S. bombs dropped in World War II. A quarter of all Laotians will eventually become refugees, many living in caves.

1959

Haiti — The U.S. military helps "Papa Doc" Duvalier become dictator of Haiti. He creates his own private police force, the "Tonton Macoutes," who terrorize the population with machetes. They will kill over 100,000 during the Duvalier family reign. The U.S. does not protest their dismal human rights record.

1961

The Bay of Pigs — The CIA sends 1,500 Cuban exiles to invade Castro’s Cuba. But "Operation Mongoose" fails, due to poor planning, security and backing. The planners had imagined that the invasion will spark a popular uprising against Castro -– which never happens. A promised American air strike also never occurs. This is the CIA’s first public setback, causing President Kennedy to fire CIA Director Allen Dulles.

Dominican Republic — The CIA assassinates Rafael Trujillo, a murderous dictator Washington has supported since 1930. Trujillo’s business interests have grown so large (about 60 percent of the economy) that they have begun competing with American business interests.

Ecuador — The CIA-backed military forces the democratically elected President Jose Velasco to resign. Vice President Carlos Arosemana replaces him; the CIA fills the now vacant vice presidency with its own man.

Congo (Zaire) — The CIA assassinates the democratically elected Patrice Lumumba. However, public support for Lumumba’s politics runs so high that the CIA cannot clearly install his opponents in power. Four years of political turmoil follow.

1963

Dominican Republic — The CIA overthrows the democratically elected Juan Bosch in a military coup. The CIA installs a repressive, right-wing junta.

Ecuador — A CIA-backed military coup overthrows President Arosemana, whose independent (not socialist) policies have become unacceptable to Washington. A military junta assumes command, cancels the 1964 elections, and begins abusing human rights.

1964

Brazil — A CIA-backed military coup overthrows the democratically elected government of Joao Goulart. The junta that replaces it will, in the next two decades, become one of the most bloodthirsty in history. General Castelo Branco will create Latin America’s first death squads, or bands of secret police who hunt down "communists" for torture, interrogation and murder. Often these "communists" are no more than Branco’s political opponents. Later it is revealed that the CIA trains the death squads.

1965

Indonesia — The CIA overthrows the democratically elected Sukarno with a military coup. The CIA has been trying to eliminate Sukarno since 1957, using everything from attempted assassination to sexual intrigue, for nothing more than his declaring neutrality in the Cold War. His successor, General Suharto, will massacre between 500,000 to 1 million civilians accused of being "communist." The CIA supplies the names of countless suspects.

Dominican Republic — A popular rebellion breaks out, promising to reinstall Juan Bosch as the country’s elected leader. The revolution is crushed when U.S. Marines land to uphold the military regime by force. The CIA directs everything behind the scenes.

Greece — With the CIA’s backing, the king removes George Papandreous as prime minister. Papandreous has failed to vigorously support U.S. interests in Greece.

Congo (Zaire) — A CIA-backed military coup installs Mobutu Sese Seko as dictator. The hated and repressive Mobutu exploits his desperately poor country for billions.

1966

The Ramparts Affair — The radical magazine Ramparts begins a series of unprecedented anti-CIA articles. Among their scoops: the CIA has paid the University of Michigan $25 million dollars to hire "professors" to train South Vietnamese students in covert police methods. MIT and other universities have received similar payments. Ramparts also reveals that the National Students’ Association is a CIA front. Students are sometimes recruited through blackmail and bribery, including draft deferments.

1967

Greece — A CIA-backed military coup overthrows the government two days before the elections. The favorite to win was George Papandreous, the liberal candidate. During the next six years, the "reign of the colonels" — backed by the CIA — will usher in the widespread use of torture and murder against political opponents. When a Greek ambassador objects to President Johnson about U.S. plans for Cypress, Johnson tells him: "Fuck your parliament and your constitution."

Operation PHEONIX — The CIA helps South Vietnamese agents identify and then murder alleged Viet Cong leaders operating in South Vietnamese villages. According to a 1971 congressional report, this operation killed about 20,000 "Viet Cong."

1968

Operation CHAOS — The CIA has been illegally spying on American citizens since 1959, but with Operation CHAOS, President Johnson dramatically boosts the effort. CIA agents go undercover as student radicals to spy on and disrupt campus organizations protesting the Vietnam War. They are searching for Russian instigators, which they never find. CHAOS will eventually spy on 7,000 individuals and 1,000 organizations.

Bolivia — A CIA-organized military operation captures legendary guerilla Che Guevara. The CIA wants to keep him alive for interrogation, but the Bolivian government executes him to prevent worldwide calls for clemency.

1969

Uruguay — The notorious CIA torturer Dan Mitrione arrives in Uruguay, a country torn with political strife. Whereas right-wing forces previously used torture only as a last resort, Mitrione convinces them to use it as a routine, widespread practice. "The precise pain, in the precise place, in the precise amount, for the desired effect," is his motto. The torture techniques he teaches to the death squads rival the Nazis’. He eventually becomes so feared that revolutionaries will kidnap and murder him a year later.

1970

Cambodia — The CIA overthrows Prince Sahounek, who is highly popular among Cambodians for keeping them out of the Vietnam War. He is replaced by CIA puppet Lon Nol, who immediately throws Cambodian troops into battle. This unpopular move strengthens once minor opposition parties like the Khmer Rouge, which achieves power in 1975 and massacres millions of its own people.

1971

Bolivia — After half a decade of CIA-inspired political turmoil, a CIA-backed military coup overthrows the leftist President Juan Torres. In the next two years, dictator Hugo Banzer will have over 2,000 political opponents arrested without trial, then tortured, raped and executed.

Haiti — "Papa Doc" Duvalier dies, leaving his 19-year old son "Baby Doc" Duvalier the dictator of Haiti. His son continues his bloody reign with full knowledge of the CIA.

1972

The Case-Zablocki Act — Congress passes an act requiring congressional review of executive agreements. In theory, this should make CIA operations more accountable. In fact, it is only marginally effective.

Cambodia — Congress votes to cut off CIA funds for its secret war in Cambodia.

Wagergate Break-in — President Nixon sends in a team of burglars to wiretap Democratic offices at Watergate. The team members have extensive CIA histories, including James McCord, E. Howard Hunt and five of the Cuban burglars. They work for the Committee to Reelect the President (CREEP), which does dirty work like disrupting Democratic campaigns and laundering Nixon’s illegal campaign contributions. CREEP’s activities are funded and organized by another CIA front, the Mullen Company.

1973

Chile — The CIA overthrows and assassinates Salvador Allende, Latin America’s first democratically elected socialist leader. The problems begin when Allende nationalizes American-owned firms in Chile. ITT offers the CIA $1 million for a coup (reportedly refused). The CIA replaces Allende with General Augusto Pinochet, who will torture and murder thousands of his own countrymen in a crackdown on labor leaders and the political left.

CIA begins internal investigations — William Colby, the Deputy Director for Operations, orders all CIA personnel to report any and all illegal activities they know about. This information is later reported to Congress.

Watergate Scandal — The CIA’s main collaborating newspaper in America, The Washington Post, reports Nixon’s crimes long before any other newspaper takes up the subject. The two reporters, Woodward and Bernstein, make almost no mention of the CIA’s many fingerprints all over the scandal. It is later revealed that Woodward was a Naval intelligence briefer to the White House, and knows many important intelligence figures, including General Alexander Haig. His main source, "Deep Throat," is probably one of those.

CIA Director Helms Fired — President Nixon fires CIA Director Richard Helms for failing to help cover up the Watergate scandal. Helms and Nixon have always disliked each other. The new CIA director is William Colby, who is relatively more open to CIA reform.

1974

CHAOS exposed — Pulitzer prize winning journalist Seymour Hersh publishes a story about Operation CHAOS, the domestic surveillance and infiltration of anti-war and civil rights groups in the U.S. The story sparks national outrage.

Angleton fired — Congress holds hearings on the illegal domestic spying efforts of James Jesus Angleton, the CIA’s chief of counterintelligence. His efforts included mail-opening campaigns and secret surveillance of war protesters. The hearings result in his dismissal from the CIA.

House clears CIA in Watergate — The House of Representatives clears the CIA of any complicity in Nixon’s Watergate break-in.

The Hughes Ryan Act — Congress passes an amendment requiring the president to report nonintelligence CIA operations to the relevant congressional committees in a timely fashion.

1975

Australia — The CIA helps topple the democratically elected, left-leaning government of Prime Minister Edward Whitlam. The CIA does this by giving an ultimatum to its Governor-General, John Kerr. Kerr, a longtime CIA collaborator, exercises his constitutional right to dissolve the Whitlam government. The Governor-General is a largely ceremonial position appointed by the Queen; the Prime Minister is democratically elected. The use of this archaic and never-used law stuns the nation.

Angola — Eager to demonstrate American military resolve after its defeat in Vietnam, Henry Kissinger launches a CIA-backed war in Angola. Contrary to Kissinger’s assertions, Angola is a country of little strategic importance and not seriously threatened by communism. The CIA backs the brutal leader of UNITAS, Jonas Savimbi. This polarizes Angolan politics and drives his opponents into the arms of Cuba and the Soviet Union for survival. Congress will cut off funds in 1976, but the CIA is able to run the war off the books until 1984, when funding is legalized again. This entirely pointless war kills over 300,000 Angolans.

1979

Iran — The CIA fails to predict the fall of the Shah of Iran, a longtime CIA puppet, and the rise of Muslim fundamentalists who are furious at the CIA’s backing of SAVAK, the Shah’s bloodthirsty secret police. In revenge, the Muslims take 52 Americans hostage in the U.S. embassy in Tehran.

Afghanistan — The Soviets invade Afghanistan. The CIA immediately begins supplying arms to any faction willing to fight the occupying Soviets. Such indiscriminate arming means that when the Soviets leave Afghanistan, civil war will erupt. Also, fanatical Muslim extremists now possess state-of-the-art weaponry. One of these is Sheik Abdel Rahman, who will become involved in the World Trade Center bombing in New York.

El Salvador — An idealistic group of young military officers, repulsed by the massacre of the poor, overthrows the right-wing government. However, the U.S. compels the inexperienced officers to include many of the old guard in key positions in their new government. Soon, things are back to "normal" — the military government is repressing and killing poor civilian protesters. Many of the young military and civilian reformers, finding themselves powerless, resign in disgust.

Nicaragua — Anastasios Samoza II, the CIA-backed dictator, falls. The Marxist Sandinistas take over government, and they are initially popular because of their commitment to land and anti-poverty reform. Samoza had a murderous and hated personal army called the National Guard. Remnants of the Guard will become the Contras, who fight a CIA-backed guerilla war against the Sandinista government throughout the 1980s.


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« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2007, 01:43:21 PM »
Here's more of our greatest CIA hits:

1980

El Salvador — The Archbishop of San Salvador, Oscar Romero, pleads with President Carter "Christian to Christian" to stop aiding the military government slaughtering his people. Carter refuses. Shortly afterwards, right-wing leader Roberto D’Aubuisson has Romero shot through the heart while saying Mass. The country soon dissolves into civil war, with the peasants in the hills fighting against the military government. The CIA and U.S. Armed Forces supply the government with overwhelming military and intelligence superiority. CIA-trained death squads roam the countryside, committing atrocities like that of El Mazote in 1982, where they massacre between 700 and 1000 men, women and children. By 1992, some 63,000 Salvadorans will be killed.

1981

Iran/Contra Begins — The CIA begins selling arms to Iran at high prices, using the profits to arm the Contras fighting the Sandinista government in Nicaragua. President Reagan vows that the Sandinistas will be "pressured" until "they say ‘uncle.’" The CIA’s Freedom Fighter’s Manual disbursed to the Contras includes instruction on economic sabotage, propaganda, extortion, bribery, blackmail, interrogation, torture, murder and political assassination.

1983

Honduras — The CIA gives Honduran military officers the Human Resource Exploitation Training Manual – 1983, which teaches how to torture people. Honduras’ notorious "Battalion 316" then uses these techniques, with the CIA’s full knowledge, on thousands of leftist dissidents. At least 184 are murdered.

1984

The Boland Amendment — The last of a series of Boland Amendments is passed. These amendments have reduced CIA aid to the Contras; the last one cuts it off completely. However, CIA Director William Casey is already prepared to "hand off" the operation to Colonel Oliver North, who illegally continues supplying the Contras through the CIA’s informal, secret, and self-financing network. This includes "humanitarian aid" donated by Adolph Coors and William Simon, and military aid funded by Iranian arms sales.

1986

Eugene Hasenfus — Nicaragua shoots down a C-123 transport plane carrying military supplies to the Contras. The lone survivor, Eugene Hasenfus, turns out to be a CIA employee, as are the two dead pilots. The airplane belongs to Southern Air Transport, a CIA front. The incident makes a mockery of President Reagan’s claims that the CIA is not illegally arming the Contras.

Iran/Contra Scandal — Although the details have long been known, the Iran/Contra scandal finally captures the media’s attention in 1986. Congress holds hearings, and several key figures (like Oliver North) lie under oath to protect the intelligence community. CIA Director William Casey dies of brain cancer before Congress can question him. All reforms enacted by Congress after the scandal are purely cosmetic.

Haiti — Rising popular revolt in Haiti means that "Baby Doc" Duvalier will remain "President for Life" only if he has a short one. The U.S., which hates instability in a puppet country, flies the despotic Duvalier to the South of France for a comfortable retirement. The CIA then rigs the upcoming elections in favor of another right-wing military strongman. However, violence keeps the country in political turmoil for another four years. The CIA tries to strengthen the military by creating the National Intelligence Service (SIN), which suppresses popular revolt through torture and assassination.

1989

Panama — The U.S. invades Panama to overthrow a dictator of its own making, General Manuel Noriega. Noriega has been on the CIA’s payroll since 1966, and has been transporting drugs with the CIA’s knowledge since 1972. By the late 80s, Noriega’s growing independence and intransigence have angered Washington… so out he goes.

1990

Haiti — Competing against 10 comparatively wealthy candidates, leftist priest Jean-Bertrand Aristide captures 68 percent of the vote. After only eight months in power, however, the CIA-backed military deposes him. More military dictators brutalize the country, as thousands of Haitian refugees escape the turmoil in barely seaworthy boats. As popular opinion calls for Aristide’s return, the CIA begins a disinformation campaign painting the courageous priest as mentally unstable.

1991

The Gulf War — The U.S. liberates Kuwait from Iraq. But Iraq’s dictator, Saddam Hussein, is another creature of the CIA. With U.S. encouragement, Hussein invaded Iran in 1980. During this costly eight-year war, the CIA built up Hussein’s forces with sophisticated arms, intelligence, training and financial backing. This cemented Hussein’s power at home, allowing him to crush the many internal rebellions that erupted from time to time, sometimes with poison gas. It also gave him all the military might he needed to conduct further adventurism — in Kuwait, for example.

The Fall of the Soviet Union — The CIA fails to predict this most important event of the Cold War. This suggests that it has been so busy undermining governments that it hasn’t been doing its primary job: gathering and analyzing information. The fall of the Soviet Union also robs the CIA of its reason for existence: fighting communism. This leads some to accuse the CIA of intentionally failing to predict the downfall of the Soviet Union. Curiously, the intelligence community’s budget is not significantly reduced after the demise of communism.

1992

Economic Espionage — In the years following the end of the Cold War, the CIA is increasingly used for economic espionage. This involves stealing the technological secrets of competing foreign companies and giving them to American ones. Given the CIA’s clear preference for dirty tricks over mere information gathering, the possibility of serious criminal behavior is very great indeed.

1993

Haiti — The chaos in Haiti grows so bad that President Clinton has no choice but to remove the Haitian military dictator, Raoul Cedras, on threat of U.S. invasion. The U.S. occupiers do not arrest Haiti’s military leaders for crimes against humanity, but instead ensure their safety and rich retirements. Aristide is returned to power only after being forced to accept an agenda favorable to the country’s ruling class.

Source: Steve Kangas

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« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2007, 01:47:30 PM »
Decker how in the hell do you classify excursions where we are rebuilding schools, hospitals etc...and not carrying guns the same as attacke by muslims? Come on you are much to smart for that
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« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2007, 01:55:02 PM »
Decker how in the hell do you classify excursions where we are rebuilding schools, hospitals etc...and not carrying guns the same as attacke by muslims? Come on you are much to smart for that
Follow this link and click on each entry to find out more about each mission.  http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/index.html
Military operations are military operations--good intentions or not.  If it were purely humanitarian efforts, why is the US going in heavy with troops?

That's beside the point though.  That list was the closest approximation I could find of Gore Vidal's list of over 200 hot military interventions by the US over the last 50 years or so.

We are always fucking with someone somewhere militarily and there is bound to be blowback.

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« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2007, 01:58:31 PM »
Gotta go guys.  Have a great night.

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« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2007, 02:15:39 PM »
Follow this link and click on each entry to find out more about each mission.  http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/index.html
Military operations are military operations--good intentions or not.  If it were purely humanitarian efforts, why is the US going in heavy with troops?

That's beside the point though.  That list was the closest approximation I could find of Gore Vidal's list of over 200 hot military interventions by the US over the last 50 years or so.

We are always fucking with someone somewhere militarily and there is bound to be blowback.

You are geting second hand info though Decker...as a member of RED HORSE I have participated in several of those missions, and you are right we take several hundred troops in, but on the 8 trips I have made you know how many guns I carried? zero....The military does more good than you can imagine and nearly that entire list is an example...there is nothing like drilling a waterwell and delivering a person their first taste of ground water in their life. Just because we had the uniform on didn't mean we were there "militarily"
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« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2007, 05:25:43 PM »
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« Reply #16 on: June 08, 2007, 06:42:03 AM »
You are geting second hand info though Decker...as a member of RED HORSE I have participated in several of those missions, and you are right we take several hundred troops in, but on the 8 trips I have made you know how many guns I carried? zero....The military does more good than you can imagine and nearly that entire list is an example...there is nothing like drilling a waterwell and delivering a person their first taste of ground water in their life. Just because we had the uniform on didn't mean we were there "militarily"
I admit the list is not the one I wanted to show where only 'hot' conflicts were shown.

To me, it is next to irrelevant that some humanitarian efforts are included in the list alongside the vast array of military excursions.  My main point was to show that the US is always engaging in military actions against other countries.  I think that may be a clue why today some foreigners are hostile toward us.  That certainly makes more sense than the infantile reason of, "they hate us b/c of our freedoms!".

Here is a more abbreviated list showing only some of the US's major foreign activities:

1954: Overthrow of government in Guatemala.
1960s: Attempts to assassinate Cuban President Fidel Castro.
1960s-'70s: Vietnam War.
1967: Support for military coup in Greece.
1967: Support for Israel in Middle East War and in subsequent conflicts with its Arab neighbors.
1973: Covert support for destabilization of Salvador Allende's government in Chile, leading to military coup.
1970s: Support for shah of Iran.
1980s: Covert and then open support for Contra rebels in Nicaragua. Secret arms sales to Iran to finance the Contras.
1986: Air attack on Libya.
1991: Persian Gulf War and subsequent sanctions against Iraq.
1992-94: Intervention in Somalia.
1995-99: Bombing campaigns to force peace settlement in Bosnia-Herzegovina and to drive Yugoslav army out of Kosovo
2001:  Afghanistan attacked
2003-pres.:  Iraq invasion

I don't necessarily agree with the wording of some the entries above and there are some omissions but it'll do. 

On a side note, why is the military drilling wells and building schools?  I thought that the military killed the enemy and destroyed things in general.  Wasn't that a line of reasoning offered by opponents of gays/women in the military:  That the armed forces destroy and are not apt to social experiments?

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« Reply #17 on: June 08, 2007, 07:40:23 AM »
And in all that time...nobody killed 3000 of our countrymen on our own soil. Our economy blossomed and we had relative peace in most major areas of the free world. We ended up bankrupting Russia and ensuring that no nuclear war ever took place. The same cannot be said now. The CIA and the governmnet played its games against folks who were playing theirs. To ensure the survival of the West and the United States, we did what we had to. 
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« Reply #18 on: June 08, 2007, 08:10:34 AM »
Ah Decker..how many of those operations were humanitarian..or as part of a UN mandated operation. Plus anything thats a NEO is US marines evac'ing an embassy or us civilians. This is hardly the same thing. Debate or hate the war all u want...same with Bush but don't compare us to the Jihadists.
lets count total death toll..and there is your answer..which religion is more evil...
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« Reply #19 on: June 08, 2007, 08:11:21 AM »
And in all that time...nobody killed 3000 of our countrymen on our own soil. Our economy blossomed and we had relative peace in most major areas of the free world. We ended up bankrupting Russia and ensuring that no nuclear war ever took place. The same cannot be said now. The CIA and the governmnet played its games against folks who were playing theirs. To ensure the survival of the West and the United States, we did what we had to. 
Russia still has all its ICBMs pointed at us so I don't think there really is any Cold War victory.

I don't believe that most of our foreign ventures are done to secure our way of life.  If it does such, that is incidental.  Big business interests use our military like muscle to open avenues to natural resources and markets.  War is a violent expression of economic politics.

The libertarian website, 'Lew Rockwell' has an excellent article on that acknowledging the seminal work of Gen. Smedley Butler while relating the concept to today's exploits.

"Smedley defined a racket as "something that is not what it seems to the majority of the people." War, he goes on, "is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious" of rackets."

http://www.lewrockwell.com/shaffer/shaffer42.html

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« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2007, 08:18:02 AM »
Who has killed more people, or who has killed more people recently and in the name of religion. I think the muslims win hands down. Nobody has launched a Christian jihad against anybody..no matter what you think of Bush.

War is the extention of our foreign economic policy. We have to secure natural resources. or more importantly not allow folks who pose a threat to us, to control them. The Middle East is way to unstable to allow a bunch of religious fanatics to control the resources that the West needs to maintain economic viability. Life is not fair....
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« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2007, 08:37:52 AM »
lets count total death toll..and there is your answer..which religion is more evil...

crazy ass, it wouldn't even be close...how many have been extermintated by muslims in Darfur alone?
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« Reply #22 on: June 08, 2007, 08:48:00 AM »
Who has killed more people, or who has killed more people recently and in the name of religion. I think the muslims win hands down. Nobody has launched a Christian jihad against anybody..no matter what you think of Bush.

War is the extention of our foreign economic policy. We have to secure natural resources. or more importantly not allow folks who pose a threat to us, to control them. The Middle East is way to unstable to allow a bunch of religious fanatics to control the resources that the West needs to maintain economic viability. Life is not fair....
The president did refer to the battle against terrorism as a crusade right before he invaded Iraq.  A crusade is a military conflict with religious character/overtones--remember the "my god is bigger than their god" from gen. Boykins.  Likewise Bush mixes religion w/ politics as a matter of course.

So to hell with all the lip service Conservatives pay to "free markets?"  Is that what you're saying? 

Those muslim devils should have no right to their own country's resources.  The US has a right to all global resources as we see fit.

Can you see why foreigners might have a problem with that?

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« Reply #23 on: June 08, 2007, 09:01:04 AM »
While Bush said that...the average soldier does not in anyway feel that. The average jihadi does. They want to create a Muslim Calphite that controls the World...As far as contoling resources. If the guys who normally sell the stuff at a fair price suddenly go bonkers.....threaten you, sponser, support or otherwise look the other way as their country is us to train and equip terrorist, yeah i have a problem with that. Iraq was about the oil, I think Bush though he had WMDs as well. General officers need to watch what they say. I don't disagree with you on that. Gen Wallace has also made remarks that make me cringe.
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« Reply #24 on: June 08, 2007, 01:19:59 PM »
Who has killed more people, or who has killed more people recently and in the name of religion. I think the muslims win hands down. Nobody has launched a Christian jihad against anybody..no matter what you think of Bush.

War is the extention of our foreign economic policy. We have to secure natural resources. or more importantly not allow folks who pose a threat to us, to control them. The Middle East is way to unstable to allow a bunch of religious fanatics to control the resources that the West needs to maintain economic viability. Life is not fair....
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