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This is a pretty big story up here in the Northeast.

http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070603/REPOSITORY/706030353

 A New Hampshire National Guard soldier could face up to five years in prison on desertion charges for leaving Iraq to gain custody of her 7-year-old daughter.

Spc. Lisa Hayes, 32, of Rindge, was serving her second tour in Iraq when she was notified of two violent incidents between her ex-husband and his live-in girlfriend. Hayes's ex-husband had primary guardianship of their daughter, Brystal Knight.

Hayes, a soldier serving with the 3643rd Security Forces, asked for emergency leave in February to attend a court hearing and gain custody of Brystal. But the court proceedings aren't over yet, and Hayes's leave expired in March. Hayes has asked for a hardship discharge from the Guard, saying there is no one else to care for Brystal.

"I can't serve my country at my daughter's expense," she said. "I have to be here. There's no going back."

The National Guard helped Hayes file paperwork for the discharge and offered assistance from the family support program for deployed soldiers, said Lt. Col. Francine Swan, a lawyer with the Guard. Hayes's commander, Capt. Tony Gagnon, extended her leave three times to prevent her from entering AWOL status. He told her in a March 5 correspondence that she needed to better inform her superiors in Iraq about what was going on.

First Sgt. Michael Daigle, a spokesman for the state National Guard, said custody disputes during a deployment are not unusual, and the Guard tries to help whenever possible. He said Hayes has forgone assistance and ignored counsel, leading the Army to take action.
   
"It's not fair to every other soldier if we give her special treatment," he said. "There are so many soldiers at war that are single parents who came up with a responsible family care plan to take care of their children."

Gagnon informed Hayes on March 25 that she was AWOL. After 30 days, Hayes entered deserter status, a charge punishable by death during wartime, Swan said.

If Hayes turns herself in, which she says she intends to do once she figures out a plan for her daughter, she faces a dishonorable discharge and up to two years in prison, Swan said. If Hayes is arrested before she turns herself in, she could be sentenced to five years in prison.

Deployed in 2004

Hayes, a mother of three and a licensed nursing assistant, joined the National Guard four years ago. She said she wanted to join the Marines after she graduated from Hillsboro-Deering High School but started a family instead.

Hayes has two sons, ages 12 and 10, from a previous relationship. In 2000, she married Tim Knight of Dublin, and the couple had Brystal the following year. In 2002, Hayes and Knight divorced, sharing custody of Brystal, Hayes said.

Hayes said she tried to gain custody of Brystal following her first deployment to Iraq in 2004. She deployed with the 197th Field Artillery Brigade and drove for an escort team, she said. The court proceedings were put off when she volunteered to return to Iraq, and a judge awarded Knight primary custody before her departure, Hayes said.

Parents are required to have a family care plan for their children when they join the Guard, Daigle said. Typically, the plan includes several options for child care in the event of deployment. Hayes had no plan because she didn't have custody of Brystal, said Swan, the Guard lawyer.

In January, Hayes couldn't reach her daughter at her ex-husband's home. She eventually called the Dublin police, and an officer told her he had gone to the residence twice in the previous two months for domestic violence complaints. Hayes said that Knight's mother and his girlfriend, Brenda Brown, were involved in a fight in November. In December, the Dublin police arrested Brown on charges of simple assault, false imprisonment and criminal trespassing, accusing her of assaulting Knight.

According to a police affidavit, Knight said Brown hit him in the head with a phone, knocked him to the ground and duct-taped his wrists together while she slammed his head into the floor. The officer found duct tape debris on the floor and saw cuts and bruises on Knight's face.

'An impermissible risk'

Hayes came home on a two-week leave in January but returned before her attorney could set up an emergency custody hearing. Hayes returned to New Hampshire on emergency leave Feb. 28 and was awarded temporary primary custody of Brystal until a guardian ad litem could investigate the child's home circumstances.

According to a decree issued by Marital Master Pamela Kelly following the hearing, the court decided that Knight's "use and abuse of alcohol" and his volatile relationship with Brown made Brystal's living situation unsuitable.

Kelly said that allowing Brystal to remain in Knight's home "would pose an impermissible risk to the child's welfare," according to the decree.

Hayes had hoped that a family friend in Rindge could care for Brystal temporarily while she figured out another solution. But the friend has had back surgery recently that left him unable to care for a 7-year-old for an extended time. Hayes's deployment is not expected to end until the fall.

Hayes asked Gagnon for an extension of her leave, which he granted. She also asked to be reassigned to duty in New Hampshire so she could take care of her daughter, which was denied.

"If she can't deploy, it's not fair to another soldier," Swan said.

Gagnon told Hayes to return to Iraq while the Guard worked on a hardship discharge. But Hayes said she would have had to leave her daughter in foster care, which she won't do.

"My daughter is not going to be put at stake for me to go back into military control," she said.

Custody arrangements

Hayes's lawyer, Linda Theroux, said it is important that Hayes remain in New Hampshire for the investigation. The guardian ad litem will interview both Knight and Hayes and examine their home settings to determine the best custody arrangements for Brystal. The process can take several months or even years, she said.

"This is the way the court system works in this state," Theroux said. "The wheels turn slowly. We have to go through the process."

Hayes kept in e-mail contact with Gagnon daily and applied for a hardship discharge. But the request was denied because she went into AWOL and deserter status before it was processed, according to a military lawyer representing Hayes.

Hayes believes Gagnon has taken a hard line with her because they have had disputes in the past. Gagnon did not respond to a request for comment, but Swan said Gagnon is following orders.

"I don't think she has any concept that Captain Gagnon does not drive this train," she said. "He does not have the authority to solve her problems."

Two military lawyers have intervened to help Hayes, saying the command is being uncooperative. Hayes has also asked Sens. John Sununu and Judd Gregg to inquire about the issue on her behalf.

Hayes said she has considered turning herself in, but one of her military lawyers advised her to wait it out. She is asking that she be removed from deserter status, but Swan said that won't happen. Since Hayes has been activated for federal duty, it is the Army, not the National Guard, that would detain and try her for the charge. The Guard will help in whatever way it can, Swan said.

"She does have compelling circumstances, but she also deserted from war," Swan said.

Hayes said she isn't trying to get out of the mission in Iraq.

"I am a decorated veteran," she said. "I am by no means trying to get out of a deployment. By no means do I want to be out of the military. I just want to be able to take care of what I need to take care of."

She added, "It's the scariest thing I've ever had to go through. I wish it wouldn't have happened."

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This story has brought everyone up here that's involved in the military out of the woodwork and we're hearing some pretty horrifying stories.

Apparently there are hundreds if not thousands of reservists and guardsmen that are starting to lose their homes and cars and going into default with credit card companies because they're being deployed so many times and because their pay while fighting the War is so much less than their everyday jobs. I've read that a bill is in the works prohibiting creditors from foreclosing on houses and reposessing cars while these guardsmen and women are at war.

What a mess.

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I'd like to here the military's side of this. Her commander does have the authority to send her home early, and it can be blessed off at the BN or Bde level. She should have been sent to the rear detachment folks and another soldier sent in her place if at all possible. It really depnds on how she handled it. If she did all the right things.  Sometimes soldiers just assume they can do what they want and their command just has to help. Most folks will but there are procedures that have to be followed. These do not have to take alot of time. Get the correct paperwork..get some signatyures and then get her ona plane home. The rest can be done by the command on her behalf, meanwhile she's assigned to rear d..comes to work..no AWOL and she goes home to her kid every night. This is typical guard stuff...they don't know how to care for their soldiers beyond 1 weekend a month two weeks a year.
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Bunch of bs...

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This story has brought everyone up here that's involved in the military out of the woodwork and we're hearing some pretty horrifying stories.

Apparently there are hundreds if not thousands of reservists and guardsmen that are starting to lose their homes and cars and going into default with credit card companies because they're being deployed so many times and because their pay while fighting the War is so much less than their everyday jobs. I've read that a bill is in the works prohibiting creditors from foreclosing on houses and reposessing cars while these guardsmen and women are at war.

What a mess.

U have to apply to get your cards reduced to low or no interest. Its Federal law that the card companies play ball. U can ask about no paymenst as well. You can inform your mortgage company about the deployment and work to get help. There are two sides to every story and I've delt with all of this. Alot of the time u ask a soldier what he did on his end to fix the issue and they look at u like a pig staring at a wrist watch. The Soldiers and Sailors relief act fixes alot of these problems.
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I'd like to here the military's side of this. Her commander does have the authority to send her home early, and it can be blessed off at the BN or Bde level. She should have been sent to the rear detachment folks and another soldier sent in her place if at all possible. It really depnds on how she handled it. If she did all the right things.  Sometimes soldiers just assume they can do what they want and their command just has to help. Most folks will but there are procedures that have to be followed. These do not have to take alot of time. Get the correct paperwork..get some signatyures and then get her ona plane home. The rest can be done by the command on her behalf, meanwhile she's assigned to rear d..comes to work..no AWOL and she goes home to her kid every night. This is typical guard stuff...they don't know how to care for their soldiers beyond 1 weekend a month two weeks a year.

About an hour ago I heard an interview with her lawyer, they seem to think this is an ego thing with her commander. Apparently she went over his head for something and he didn't like it. From what the lawyer said the commander and one particular JAG attorney are causing her these problems.

I'm not sure how I feel about this. I tend to blame the local court system more than the military itself, she's been granted stays before so the military has been sympathetic to her plight in the past. If the N.H. Courts just expedited this case through then this wouldn't even have been an issue.

Apparently there are issues with domestic violence and alcohol/drug use where the little girl is staying now. It's a mess.

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If i threw the rank on you and had u sit down with her..U'd probably end up pissed at her. She would have had to go to IG or JAG. Both are her rights but if she doesn't tell her boss it tends to piss us off and getting blind sided really sucks. Further, like tu said it seems the Army has tried to help. I think he should have cut bait along time ago and redeployed her.
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If i threw the rank on you and had u sit down with her..U'd probably end up pissed at her. She would have had to go to IG or JAG. Both are her rights but if she doesn't tell her boss it tends to piss us off and getting blind sided really sucks. Further, like tu said it seems the Army has tried to help. I think he should have cut bait along time ago and redeployed her.

Yeah, I got that sense from listening to her lawyer. She stepped on some toes and probably didn't handle this thing correctly. It's a tough situation and I'm guessing there's a little blame to go around to both her and her commander and a lot of blame on the shoulders of the court system that has stalled her custody case.

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Sometimes u have to look at the big picture..from my view and experience she was causing way to many issues..pack her crap ands send her home.
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Wow this brings back memories...when I went to Malmstrom they tried a new program where our unit was 1/3 guard and 2/3 active..basically when a deployment came up the guard side was to fill 1/3rd of the slots....it never failed that if we had to go to the desert it was harvest time...we had to go to Hawaii they would fight hand over fist to go...plain and simple when you join the military no matter what component (Active, Guard or reserve) the military comes first, that is just how it works. I'm not saying I wouldn't have done all I could have to helped her, but at the same time if I said no, and she went over my head and started playing mom against dad type stuff you can bet I wouldn't have done shit to help her from that point...

I just had a kid here that got a Red cross call that his dad had 24 hours...I immediately put him on emergency leave which authorizes him 10 "free" days of leave. Well his dad didn't die until the 8th day and the funeral was scheduled for day 11. He called and asked for an extension and sadly I had to say no. I know it sucks but we have 3 core values in the Air Force

Excellence in all we do
Integrity first
Service before self

the last one is the hardest for people to grasp.....from 95-04, I missed every single Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Years, and wedding anniversary plus was deployed for 28 of my sons first 30 months of life...it sucks I know but that is what we all signed up for.
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Well i would have let him go to the funeral but again there are two sides. My problem child from Afghanistan...had emergency leave for three weeks..then medical evac and operation for almost 2 months..then she went to IG because we did not get her leave and because of this we of course "didn't like black people"...like i care she's black. I cared that she sucked. She whined to IG all the time and almost gave my NCOIC a heart attack..he began getting chest pains. She got her leave as well. My other soldiers were not amused. I missedd tons of vacations, birthdays and holidays..thus resulting in a divorce when I got back from Afghanistan.  Shit happens..my countrymen will not die in another 911.
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I'll be right there beside you...at least for the next 5 years until I am dun!
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b]it sucks I know but that is what we all signed up for.[/b]

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 ;D

In all seriousness, was it really worth it, not seeing your son and all for such a long time, just to be in the army? If you could do it all from the start again, would you have chosen a better paying civil job + family time, instead of being in the army?

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::)

 ;D

In all seriousness, was it really worth it, not seeing your son and all for such a long time, just to be in the army? If you could do it all from the start again, would you have chosen a better paying civil job + family time, instead of being in the army?

In all honesty no...The military has been extremely secure as far as a guaranteed pay check every 2 weeks for the past 24+ years not to mention many years of down time during peaceful times....I make about $39/hour so that isn't bad, and that doesn't take into account the $500 plus a month that I would have to pay for medical, the hundreds of thousands in medical bills for my wife's heart problems and what not... and when I retire I will still have family medical coverage, a secure retirement and all the VA benifits. I could have retired at 20, but I am proud of what I do and honestly don't think I would have changed anything.
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I think folks don't understand our pay. We are under paid for possibly taking a bullet and for what we do..but as far as being underpaid compared to civilian's.....I'm an 04 over 14...do the math and look at BAH which I include as pay and I do pretty well. I'm not sure MM's rank but we do ok and he could double his salary when he gets out.
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We are under paid for possibly taking a bullet

Concur, I am not sure if any level of pay is really worth dying for :-\

Yes, yes I know all about how people feel the war is for freedom and all that....but I do question the responsibilty of a single parent deciding to enlist/risk going to war in the first place. Especially a woman. This woman had 3 children? Who was raising the other 2?

It is different to enlist, if you leave your kids in the care of your spouse. Sure your kids may miss you, but they are getting quality care from a parent. But single parenting is different, running off to war...while you leave your own kids without adequate care. Also, maybe I am wrong, it appears she did not have custody or any of her kids [?] so maybe she has always been a subpar mother.


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Another side to the story that would need to be looked at. I don't think she had an adequate family care plan which is a legal requirment, according to military regs, for single parents. They are a pain in the ass and I'm sure her boss was asked to see her plan, by his commander. I don't think hse should have deployed.
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Concur, I am not sure if any level of pay is really worth dying for :-\

Yes, yes I know all about how people feel the war is for freedom and all that....but I do question the responsibilty of a single parent deciding to enlist/risk going to war in the first place. Especially a woman. This woman had 3 children? Who was raising the other 2?

It is different to enlist, if you leave your kids in the care of your spouse. Sure your kids may miss you, but they are getting quality care from a parent. But single parenting is different, running off to war...while you leave your own kids without adequate care. Also, maybe I am wrong, it appears she did not have custody or any of her kids [?] so maybe she has always been a subpar mother.



believ me CQ I don't do it for the money!! My grandfather and father did it to protect their families way of life so I look at it as my turn.
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