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Cotto v. Judah
« on: June 06, 2007, 02:06:59 PM »
I got Judah by KO. This fight will be exciting unlike De la Hoya-Mayweather. What do ya'll think?
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Re: Cotto v. Judah
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2007, 02:38:44 PM »
I got Judah by KO. This fight will be exciting unlike De la Hoya-Mayweather. What do ya'll think?

I was just about to start as thread about this.  I totally agree, Judah will definately check Cotto's suspect chin and end up finishing him.  I am looking foward to this one, even more so than Hatton/Castillo( I have a feeling Hatton is going to jab and grab his way to a decision in that fight).
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Re: Cotto v. Judah
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2007, 02:36:22 PM »
I like Cotto.  I think he is going to put Zab out of his misery.

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Re: Cotto v. Judah
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2007, 02:38:38 PM »
I like Cotto.  I think he is going to put Zab out of his misery.

Cotto is alright, but he gets hit too much, you can't make that mistake against a guy like Judah. I can tell you one thing though, it's not going the distance for sure.
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Re: Cotto v. Judah
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2007, 02:41:23 PM »
Cotto is alright, but he gets hit too much, you can't make that mistake against a guy like Judah. I can tell you one thing though, it's not going the distance for sure.

I think Cotto proved his chin was fine in the Malignacci fight.  I think Zab's chin is every bit as questionable.  Remember when Kosta knocked him out with one punch twice?  One the best boxing moments ever.

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Re: Cotto v. Judah
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2007, 03:24:32 PM »
I think Cotto proved his chin was fine in the Malignacci fight.  I think Zab's chin is every bit as questionable.  Remember when Kosta knocked him out with one punch twice?  One the best boxing moments ever.
I agree with Mr. McGee about Zab's suspect chin. I think this fight could see both guys tasting the canvas. If Judah gets hurt and goes down, he'll hold on and survive. But if Cotto gets clocked, he doesn't know how to hold and he'll get flattened. No one hits with Judah's speed and power.

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Re: Cotto v. Judah
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2007, 03:31:26 PM »
Here is my 2 cents. Zab has the ability to go in there and KO cotto.

but Zab has always had a problem with getting extremely waaaay to comfortable and/or cocky in fights he should win. He did a good job against cory spinks late but he just falls apart sometimes and loses focus for whatever reason.

I still pick him to beat cotto. Cotto loves the body and Zab is a nice southpaw esp. early rd's(very good speed/power). He SHOULD pile up alot of early rds and maybe even put cotto down. Cotto eats waaaaay to many punches to try to get inside sometimes. 

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Re: Cotto v. Judah
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2007, 05:15:30 PM »
I think Cotto proved his chin was fine in the Malignacci fight.  I think Zab's chin is every bit as questionable.  Remember when Kosta knocked him out with one punch twice?  One the best boxing moments ever.

Dude, Malinaggi has pillows for hands, Chop Chop Corley (who also happens to be a slightly quick south paw) rocked Cotto bad and he dosen't hit all that hard, Ricardo Torres dropped and almost finished Cotto, but he gassed because he took that fight on two weeks notice.  Kostya on the other hand was one of the, if not the, hardest puncher in his weight class at that time.  I agree they both have questionable chins, it's just that Judah has fought better opposition, has lightning quick hands, and he hits just as hard if not harder than Cotto.
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Re: Cotto v. Judah
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2007, 01:40:46 AM »
Back to the minor leagues for Judah, Cotto now has the winner of the Williams/Margarito fight next month, and if he wins that he has Shane Mosely to deal with.
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Re: Cotto v. Judah
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2007, 12:25:34 PM »
Very entertaining fight.

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Re: Cotto v. Judah
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2007, 01:48:45 PM »
Cotto proved he belongs, but each of the other three or four top guys in that division pose a new set of problems for him.  Margarito's style is very similar to Cottos' and that would be a hell of a fight to watch, Williams is a tall mofo who throws a shitload of punches and his cardio is sick.  Mosely is a bad fight for Cotto but it would probably be competitive.  I can't wait to see what happens.
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Re: Cotto v. Judah
« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2007, 08:44:55 AM »
The welterweight division is no joke right now with

Cotto
Clottey
Mosley
Margarito
Williams
Gatti
Cintron

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Re: Cotto v. Judah
« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2007, 09:49:59 AM »
Mayweather versus Cotto would be a huge draw.

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Re: Cotto v. Judah
« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2007, 12:27:18 PM »
Mayweather versus Cotto would be a huge draw.
Mayweather vs Mosely would be the biggest draw of all of these fighters. Mosely would present a unique challenge for Mayweather. He has great stamina like Mayweather and tremendous hand speed like Mayweather. The thing I think that will get Mosely in trouble is that he takes too many punches. He will take a punch to land one. He can't afford to do that against someone like Mayweather.

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Re: Cotto v. Judah
« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2007, 03:05:09 PM »
Mosley, huh?

I have to disagree. While that fight may get a decent draw, it would be nothing like the draw of a Cotto/Mayweather fight. Cotto being the young, hungry brawler versus the the slip and punch Mayweather.

Remember, Mosley's almost 36 years old. This fight would take awhile to put together given that Mayweather is contemplating retirement. If Cotto is smart, he'll call out Mayweather and entice him to fight again for what could possibly be his biggest payday ever. Think about it...who do you think the public would rather want to see? Mosley hasn't fought in over two years while Cotto just fought one of the most exciting fights of 2007 against Judah. The public will demand it. Plus, Mosley fights for Golden Boy promotions, the same promoter that put Mayweather's camp throught hell just to get the Dela Hoya fight up and going.

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Re: Cotto v. Judah
« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2007, 06:35:24 PM »
Cotto doesn't have the speed, stamina, or chin to get in there with Mayweather nor will he bring in the big bucks that it would take to get Mayweather in the ring. He isn't going to fight for less than 8 figures, and he shouldn't if is the "pound for pound best fighter." I believe that Mosely is the best test for him as well as the biggest draw in terms of money. Don't forget he pretty much dominated Luis Collazo, the man  who gave Ricky Hatton all he could handle and in my opinion won that fight. Mosely also knocked Vargas out twice before the Collazo fight. He is pretty much the next best fighter in the division and matches up better against Mayweather than Cotto. Lets face it it all comes down to dollars and cents in boxing or any sport for that matter. When you put the two best fighters in the division you know its going to be a mega payday for the promoters and boxers alike. Golden Boy Promotions would be crazy if they didn't try to make this fight happen. Just my two cents.

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Re: Cotto v. Judah
« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2007, 03:39:00 AM »
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Re: Cotto v. Judah
« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2007, 01:14:57 PM »
At 147 keep your eye on 2004 Olympian Andre Berto.

This guy will dominate the 147 class for yrs to come.

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Re: Cotto v. Judah
« Reply #18 on: June 12, 2007, 01:54:53 PM »
At 147 keep your eye on 2004 Olympian Andre Berto.

This guy will dominate the 147 class for yrs to come.

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I've been watching this guy. This is the Haitian kid from Miami. He's quick, powerful, and has a good chin so far that I've seen. I believe he wrestled in high school. It would be interesting to see him in MMA.

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Re: Cotto v. Judah
« Reply #19 on: June 12, 2007, 02:20:13 PM »
Cotto v. Mayweather would be an awesome fight
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Re: Cotto v. Judah
« Reply #20 on: June 12, 2007, 04:52:10 PM »
At 147 keep your eye on 2004 Olympian Andre Berto.

This guy will dominate the 147 class for yrs to come.

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Yeah! Seen this guy fight a few times on the Showtime undercards. Very impressive! Good athlete to. There will be a lot of established welterweights ducking him right away. Looks like a big welterweight to. Looks like he has the frame to move up to middleweight eventually.

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Re: Cotto v. Judah
« Reply #21 on: June 12, 2007, 05:24:37 PM »
Yeah! Seen this guy fight a few times on the Showtime undercards. Very impressive! Good athlete to. There will be a lot of established welterweights ducking him right away. Looks like a big welterweight to. Looks like he has the frame to move up to middleweight eventually.

I think his name is Andre Ward?
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Re: Cotto v. Judah
« Reply #22 on: June 12, 2007, 05:32:35 PM »
I've been watching this guy. This is the Haitian kid from Miami. He's quick, powerful, and has a good chin so far that I've seen. I believe he wrestled in high school. It would be interesting to see him in MMA.

Andre's father faught MMA and currently teaches it in Winter Haven Fla.. Andre's brother, Edson, fights MMA.




Memphis, TN – Andre Berto has developed a reputation as the sport's most highly touted prospect. So it was only fitting that the 2004 Olympian stole the show in the non-televised portion of the undercard. Berto was nearly flawless in forcing trialhorse Martinus Clay into submission in the seventh round of their scheduled ten.

Berto's combination of speed and power had the crowd on hand oohing and ahhing nearly every time he let his hands go. Clay seemed to be in awe of Berto's superior skill level, as he spent much of the bout in survival mode.

Though only eighteen fights into his pro career, Berto proved himself to be a true student of the game, never pardoning the body while looking to wear his opponent down. While Clay was covering up in anticipation of Berto's right hands, Andre began gauging his left hook downstairs.

As effective as he was to the body, it was a left hook to the chin that permanently altered the tone of the fight. A crisp, compact shot insde put Clay on his seat early into the sixth round, the bout's lone knockdown. Berto sensed blood and went in for the kill, but Clay was able to use some veteran tricks to survive what had to be the longest two minutes of his fighting life.


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Re: Cotto v. Judah
« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2007, 02:32:28 AM »
The welterweight division is no joke right now with

Cotto
Clottey
Mosley
Margarito
Williams
Gatti
Cintron



Berto will DOMINATE all these fighters.........just watch.

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Re: Cotto v. Judah
« Reply #24 on: June 13, 2007, 02:52:58 AM »
Yeah! Seen this guy fight a few times on the Showtime undercards. Very impressive! Good athlete to. There will be a lot of established welterweights ducking him right away. Looks like a big welterweight to. Looks like he has the frame to move up to middleweight eventually.


Actually, we moved Andre down to 147 from 54 following the Olympics. We currently have no plan to move up to middleweight. 154 is a possibility, but not until we OWN the 147 pound class.

Andre is very comfortable at 147 and strong as a beast, and will only get stronger. He's only 23yo.