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Getbig II
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Don't Tase Me Bro

« on: June 07, 2007, 01:16:17 AM »

Am am looking to take either one of these to help me get shredded, my diet is pefect and doing enough cardio just slightly behind

1. Does anyone know if any of these two are banned by wnbf/inbf?

S.A.N Tight Hardcore


AfterBurn™ (4-(4-Hydroxyphenyl)butan-2-One) (99%), Delta-5-E™ (1, 2, 4, 11, 12, 15, 16-Septahydro-10, 13-Dimethyl-3, 17-Dimethoxycarboxy- Cyclopenta[A]phenanthrene-7-One), Tyramine (96%), Hordenine (98%), Evodiamine (98%), Forslean™ (96% Forskolin), Synephrine (98%)


S.A.N Blaze Xtreme


Delta-5-ETM: 100 mg
(1,2,4,11,12,15,16-Septahydro-10,13-dimethyl-3, 17-dimethoxycarboxy-cyclopenta[a]phenanthrene-7-one)

What do you think of the WNBF, taking 7-KETO DHEA  of the banned Substance List?

1.) The FDA has ruled on two occasions in response to applications by Humanetics, Inc., that 7-Keto DHEA is safe for consumers when used for fat-loss.

2.) Safety rulings by the State of California and the Australian Government Dept. of Health and Ageing, Office of Chemical Safety also ruled the compound as safe.

3.) The Australian Government Dept. of Health and Ageing, Office of Chemical Safety ruled in March 2007 that "Data from published literature establishes that whilst structurally related to DHEA and testosterone, 7-Keto DHEA does not have biological action at the androgen receptor. Thus this substance is not expected to produce an androgenic effect."

4.) Review of clinical research by Dr. Zenk shows that 7-Keto DHEA is introduced to the Metabolic Pathway in the body beyond DHEA, and does not trigger androstenedione or androstenediol production in the body. It occupies a "metabolic dead end" that doesn't cause anabolism in the body. Therefore, 7-Keto DHEA does not cause anabolic changes, nor will it trigger a urine test failure.

Dr. Zenk explains that 7-Keto DHEA triggers fat loss by a means other than increasing norepinepherine production (as does ephedra, caffeine, etc.). It instead activates three thermogenic enzymes that are required for fatty acid metabolism. By activating Acetyl CoA (a sustrate in the Krebs cycle), 7-Keto assists the body in metabolizing fatty acids, which spurs safe weight (fat) loss. 7-Keto declines with age, and is excreted in the urine. It has been studied as a weight-loss compound for more than 16 years and is non-toxic, non-anabolic and without any serious side effects.

As a result of the research presented to the WNBF and studied by its Executive Committee and its supplement advisors, the federation has ruled that 7-Keto DHEA is allowable for use.

HOWEVER, this ruling applies to 7-Keto DHEA (aka 7-OXO DHEA) ONLY. The fat-burning compounds sold as A7-D and A7-E are NOT allowed, nor are any that contain "etiochollonane" or "etiocholene" or other HORMONAL COMPOUNDS.

As always, it is up to WNBF members to carefully investigate their products BEFORE USING THEM. Failure to do so (which results in the use of a banned substance) will still be cause for failure and expulsion from the WNBF.

– Steve Downs, C.S.C.S.

WNBF Chairman
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Getbig V
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« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2007, 05:23:42 AM »

Hey bro,

Here is the website for the inbf:

And if you scroll further down you will find a list of all banned substances.

Hope that helps.

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