Milos suspended: the suspension letter should be analyzed

[HowieW]

I would advise any interested getbig member to check out and read, the actual letter of charges levied against Milos. Hmmmmm, it looks like one of 2 things has happened:

1. Milos caught a Middle eastern IFBB officail getting bribed to change the outcome of the show in Quatar, and spoke out about it.

2. For some odd reason Milos risked his rep and standing to bad mouth some obscure BB official in a small international show. He was a disgruntled pro that simply wanted to stir up crap for the IFBB .

What do you think?

My gut tells me that Milos may have seen some "under the table" deal and spoke out. I think the fact that Bob Chic is representing him leads me think there may be something here that some folks wanted covered up?

I will be VERY interested to see what the actual truth is?

Howard  now back in Ga



Here is the letter:


http://www.getbig.com/news/2007/06/20070601milos.htm

[Stark]

He was also managing Silvio right?   

[HowieW]

He was also managing Silvio right?   

True and this will add to the drama

[Stark]

True and this will add to the drama

ehh he wasn't Howie

[timfogarty]

1. Milos caught a Middle eastern IFBB officail getting bribed to change the outcome of the show in Quatar, and spoke out about it.

I thought his accusations were against Datuk Paul Chua, the number one IFBB guy in all of Asia.  Chua has been the IFBB vice president for Asia since 1978.  He's also the chairman of the Singapore national IFBB.

[Disgusted]

Has the IFBB looked into the accusations?

[texasbubba]

I find it interesting that the IFBB does no kind of investigation to see what Milos said was true or false.  If it were true, in real life Milos should be hailed as a hero and the people involved would never ever be able to be associated with BB.  But, in the IFBB world Milos found something out that appeared to have happened and gets punished for bringing it public.  And this is a perfect example how Chic is useless as an Athletes Rep.  DId he represent Milos in this case like most reps do.  Did he call for "stay of execution" while the allegations were investigated.  YOu would think as much as Bob loves BB, he would want any wrong doing with judges to be investigated to it highest degree no matter what it took.  The IFBB being the pilar of BB , you would think would also want their name cleared in a judging scandal.  But instead, they sweep it under the rug and suspend the person who brought it public.  Good job Chic.  Now tell us how Milos had his chance to defend himself.  Where were you in all this.

There you go Keith speaking out of your ass with out knowing what is really going on.  Why don't you ask Milos what he has requested of Bob...they had a good conversation in Colorado.  Of course you didn't get in, but we did spot you looking through the window.  Hey stop by the Four Seasons to say hello.

[HowieW]

There you go Keith speaking out of your ass with out knowing what is really going on.  Why don't you ask Milos what he has requested of Bob...they had a good conversation in Colorado.  Of course you didn't get in, but we did spot you looking through the window.  Hey stop by the Four Seasons to say hello.

I freely admit that I "suspect" Milos may have found some unsavory dealings, but will wait for the facts to come out.
It is only natural that reasonable rumors would fly as we all speculate here.

[timfogarty]

It is only natural that reasonable rumors would fly as we all speculate here.

and these rumors are nothing new.  they've been circulating for years.

[HowieW]

and these rumors are nothing new.  they've been circulating for years.

True, no doubt. But at least now we have the actual suspension letter and charges with names, etc.
Good call on pointing who that asian IFBB official was/is .
"How goest" the training and contest prep my ripped friend?

[sgt. d]

I find it interesting that the IFBB does no kind of investigation to see what Milos said was true or false.  If it were true, in real life Milos should be hailed as a hero and the people involved would never ever be able to be associated with BB.  But, in the IFBB world Milos found something out that appeared to have happened and gets punished for bringing it public.  And this is a perfect example how Chic is useless as an Athletes Rep.  DId he represent Milos in this case like most reps do.  Did he call for "stay of execution" while the allegations were investigated.  YOu would think as much as Bob loves BB, he would want any wrong doing with judges to be investigated to it highest degree no matter what it took.  The IFBB being the pilar of BB , you would think would also want their name cleared in a judging scandal.  But instead, they sweep it under the rug and suspend the person who brought it public.  Good job Chic.  Now tell us how Milos had his chance to defend himself.  Where were you in all this.

I thought you and Bob were friends. The way you talk to him on here isnt very friendly like.

[bigdumbbell]

I would advise any interested get big member to check out and read, the actual letter of charges levied against Milos . Hmmmmm, it looks like one of 2 things has happened:
1. Milos caught a Middle eastern IFBB officail getting bribed to change the outcome of the show in Quatar, and spoke out about it.

2. For some odd reason Milos risked his rep and standing to bad mouth some obscure BB official in a small international show. He was a disgruntled pro that simply wanted to stir up crap for the IFBB .

What do you think?

My gut tells me that Milos may have seen some "under the table" deal and spoke out. I think the fact that Bob Chic is representing him leads me think there may be something here that some folks wanted covered up?

I will be VERY interested to see what the actual truth is?
Howard  now back in Ga

1. where is the real letter posted?
2. Qatar, only because i teach there half a year

[PORKY]

I thought his accusations were against Datuk Paul Chua, the number one IFBB guy in all of Asia.  Chua has been the IFBB vice president for Asia since 1978.  He's also the chairman of the Singapore national IFBB.

FYI....Mr.Chua's Datukship is in question here.He did receive a title but it wasn't a Datukship.Claiming to be a Datuk is a serious offence and he can be put away.On another note....everyone and i mean EVERYONE in Asia knows how shows are rigged.They just wont come forward fearing Mr.Chua will ban the nation from future participations of any IFBB/ABBF sanctioned shows....hence the silence all this while.

[HowieW]

1. where is the real letter posted?
2. Qatar, only because i teach there half a year

The letter is on the IFBB pro div web page.
Thanks for the correct spelling 

[Shawn Ray]

Paul Chua is a respected businessman, promoter, IFBB Judge and a friend of mine.
he brought me to Singapore in the early 90's for a Guest Posing at one of the huge events of the time their.
He doesn't deserve this kind of negaitvity afte rall he has done for BBing over there.

[Disgusted]

Paul Chua is a respected businessman, promoter, IFBB Judge and a friend of mine.
he brought me to Singapore in the early 90's for a Guest Posing at one of the huge events of the time their.
He doesn't deserve this kind of negaitvity afte rall he has done for BBing over there.

Sounds like you guys are birds of a feather. 

[Shawn Ray]

CRIMES OF PASSION

[Disgusted]

CRIMES OF PASSION

You mean you and Sasha? 

[PORKY]

He doesn't deserve this kind of negaitvity afte rall he has done for BBing over there.

So you're saying it's ok to screw people over? 

[bigdumbbell]

Paul Chua is a respected businessman, promoter, IFBB Judge and a friend of mine.
he brought me to Singapore in the early 90's for a Guest Posing at one of the huge events of the time their.
He doesn't deserve this kind of negaitvity afte rall he has done for BBing over there.

now there's an endorsement if ever there was one

[lastrep]

Paul Chua is a respected businessman, promoter, IFBB Judge and a friend of mine.
he brought me to Singapore in the early 90's for a Guest Posing at one of the huge events of the time their.
He doesn't deserve this kind of negaitvity afte rall he has done for BBing over there.

That's all fine and dandy.. BUT has nothing to do with him being guilty or innocent. Should he get special treatment for being around so long? No.

Commit the crime/offence/manipulation of rankings (from the pictures of the athletes I tend to go to Milos' side) and face the consequences.

 

[getbigamazon]

Milos went on several sites making these claims. He said he received no payment for his help in preparing a team for the Asian games. Well that's not true as his airfare and hotel accomodations were paid. As he failed to mention that, how can we be certain that he didn't receive a cash payment? What was his bonus going to be if the team he'd been helping won? Considering how much the bodybuilders would have been paid I find it difficult to believe he didn't intend having his hand in the honey pot. Of course he'll claim he was doing it out of the goodness of his heart as he always does.
Reading the letter announcing his suspension it says he was given the chance to provide evidence to support his claims but he failed to do so. So he's accused people of cheating and corruption without any corroborative evidence apart from the few photos he produced on the boards? Well that may have proved it to a few on here but if that was really enough why didn't he claim the judges at the New York show were paid to award Branch Warren the title when everyone else had him fifth?

[kyomu]

As i stated,Milos act without brain and ended up with this.

"13. In conformity with Pro Rule 9.3 (Suspension Conditions), while under suspension you may not compete, give exhibitions or seminars, judge, officiate or otherwise participate in an official capacity at any IFBB Pro League competition. "

This hurts a lot.

[donrhummy]

Has the IFBB looked into the accusations?

Yes, they asked Paul Chua and he said it didn't happen. LOL.

[musclecenter]

Sounds like you guys are birds of a feather. 

I TOTALLY Agree !!