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Court Rules in Favor of Enemy Combatant
« on: June 11, 2007, 07:07:40 PM »
I agree with this.  We shouldn't be holding anyone indefinitely without charges. 

Court Rules in Favor of Enemy Combatant
         
ZINIE CHEN SAMPSON | June 11, 2007 09:51 PM EST | 
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RICHMOND, Va. — A divided panel from a conservative federal appeals court delivered a harsh rebuke to the Bush administration's anti-terrorism strategy Monday, ruling that U.S. residents cannot be locked up indefinitely as "enemy combatants" without being charged.

The three-judge panel of the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that the government should charge Ali al-Marri, a legal U.S. resident and the only suspected enemy combatant on American soil, or release him from military custody.

The federal Military Commissions Act doesn't strip al-Marri of his constitutional right to challenge his accusers in court, the judges found in Monday's 2-1 decision.

"Put simply, the Constitution does not allow the President to order the military to seize civilians residing within the United States and then detain them indefinitely without criminal process, and this is so even if he calls them 'enemy combatants,'" the court said.

Such detention "would have disastrous consequences for the Constitution _ and the country," Judge Diana G. Motz wrote in the majority opinion, which was joined by Judge Roger Gregory. Judge Henry E. Hudson, a federal judge in Richmond, dissented.

"This is a landmark victory for the rule of law and a defeat for unchecked executive power," al-Marri's lawyer, Jonathan Hafetz, said in a statement. "It affirms the basic constitutional rights of all individuals _ citizens and immigrants _ in the United States."

The government intends to ask the full 4th Circuit to hear the case, Justice Department spokesman Dean Boyd said.

"The President has made clear that he intends to use all available tools at his disposal to protect Americans from further al-Qaida attack, including the capture and detention of al-Qaida agents who enter our borders," Boyd said in a statement.

The court said its ruling doesn't mean al-Marri should be set free. Instead, he can be returned to the civilian court system and tried on criminal charges.

The decision is the latest in a series of court rulings against the Bush administration's anti-terrorism program.

Last August, a federal judge in Detroit said the government's domestic spying program violated constitutional rights to free speech and privacy, and the constitutional separation of powers. Five months later, the Bush administration announced it would allow judicial review of the spying program run by the National Security Agency.

A year ago, the Supreme Court threw out Bush's system of military trials for detainees at Guantanamo Bay, saying he had exceeded his authority and was in violation of international treaties. The Republican-led Congress then pushed through legislation authorizing war-crime trials for the detainees and denying them access to civilian courts.

But last week, military judges barred the Pentagon from prosecuting two of the Guantanamo detainees because the government had failed to identify them as "unlawful" enemy combatants, as required by Congress. The decisions were a blow to efforts to begin prosecuting dozens of detainees the government regards as the nation's most dangerous terrorism suspects.

Al-Marri has been held in solitary confinement in the Navy brig in Charleston, S.C., since June 2003. The Qatar native has been detained since his December 2001 arrest at his home in Peoria, Ill., where he moved with his wife and five children a day before the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks to study for a master's degree at Bradley University.

Federal investigators found credit card numbers on al-Marri's laptop computer and charged him with credit card fraud. Upon further investigation, the government said, agents found evidence that al-Marri had links to al-Qaida terrorists and was a national security threat. Authorities shifted al-Marri's case from the criminal system and moved him to indefinite military detention.

Al-Marri has denied the government's allegations and is seeking to challenge the government's evidence and cross-examine its witnesses in court. Hafetz said prosecutors haven't charged his client because they lack evidence, "or the evidence they've obtained is through torture, unreliable or unacceptable in civilized society."

Al-Marri is currently the only U.S. resident held as an enemy combatant within the U.S.

Jose Padilla, who is a U.S. citizen, had been held as an enemy combatant in a Navy brig for 3 1/2 years before he was hastily added to an existing case in Miami in November 2005, a few days before a U.S. Supreme Court deadline for Bush administration briefs on the question of the president's powers to continue holding him in military prison without charge.

Yaser Hamdi, an American citizen captured in Afghanistan in 2001, was released to his family in Saudi Arabia in October 2004 after the Justice Department said he no longer posed a threat to the United States. As a condition of his release, he gave up U.S. citizenship.

If the government's stance was upheld, civil liberties groups said, the Justice Department could use terrorism law to hold anyone indefinitely and strip them of the right to use civilian courts to challenge their detention.

The Bush administration's attorneys had urged the federal appeals panel to dismiss al-Marri's challenge, arguing that the Military Commissions Act stripped the courts of jurisdiction to hear cases of detainees who are declared enemy combatants. They contended that Congress and the Supreme Court have given the president the authority to fight terrorism and prevent additional attacks on the nation.

The court, however, said in Monday's opinion that the act doesn't apply to al-Marri, who wasn't captured outside the U.S., detained at Guantanamo Bay or in another country, and who has not received a combatant status review tribunal.

"The MCA was not intended to, and does not apply to aliens like al-Marri, who have legally entered, and are seized while legally residing in, the United States," the court said.

The court also said the government failed to back up its argument that the Authorization for Use of Military Force, enacted by Congress immediately after the Sept. 11 attacks, gives the president broad powers to detain al-Marri as an enemy combatant. The act neither classifies certain civilians as enemy combatants, nor otherwise authorizes the government to detain people indefinitely, the court ruled.

The case, which is expected to reach the Supreme Court, could help define how much authority the government has to indefinitely detain those accused of terrorism and to strip detainees of their rights to challenge the lawfulness or conditions of their detention.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20070611/enemy-combatant/

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Re: Court Rules in Favor of Enemy Combatant
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2007, 07:12:09 PM »
Well at least some more people are standing up to these policies.

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Re: Court Rules in Favor of Enemy Combatant
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2007, 06:42:03 AM »
I agree with this.  We shouldn't be holding anyone indefinitely without charges. 

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Then you must support the democrats effort to remove Gonzales from his position.

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Re: Court Rules in Favor of Enemy Combatant
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2007, 07:56:12 AM »
I understand the argument but it doesn't seem we have gotten many wrong and if the alternative could mean the detonation of Nuclear weapons in this country..I for one am willing to give up rights to make sure we survive. The landscape has changed gents..time to wake up!!
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Re: Court Rules in Favor of Enemy Combatant
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2007, 08:44:52 AM »
Then you must support the democrats effort to remove Gonzales from his position.

Nope. 

So you're admitting the hearings and failed "no confidence" vote were about Democrats getting rid of Gonzales and not about his role in the alleged illegal firing of U.S. Attorneys? 

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Re: Court Rules in Favor of Enemy Combatant
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2007, 08:52:42 AM »
I understand the argument but it doesn't seem we have gotten many wrong and if the alternative could mean the detonation of Nuclear weapons in this country..I for one am willing to give up rights to make sure we survive. The landscape has changed gents..time to wake up!!

I hear you.  On the other hand, if we have evidence that someone is involved in a plot/crime, we ought to just go ahead and charge them.  Even if we cannot convict them, we can send them home (which liberals will oppose as well). 

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Re: Court Rules in Favor of Enemy Combatant
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2007, 09:05:27 AM »
Nope. 

So you're admitting the hearings and failed "no confidence" vote were about Democrats getting rid of Gonzales and not about his role in the alleged illegal firing of U.S. Attorneys? 
Absolutely.

You don't roll over and keep taking it without a word just b/c of procedural constraints.

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Re: Court Rules in Favor of Enemy Combatant
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2007, 10:26:22 AM »
Absolutely.

You don't roll over and keep taking it without a word just b/c of procedural constraints.

Well at least you're honest about it.  Democrats in Congress are not. 

Procedural constraints??  So forget about the law, rules, etc., just lie to the American people and flush our money down the toilet?   

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Re: Court Rules in Favor of Enemy Combatant
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2007, 10:44:01 AM »
Well at least you're honest about it.  Democrats in Congress are not. 

Procedural constraints??  So forget about the law, rules, etc., just lie to the American people and flush our money down the toilet?   
I believe it is Gonzales that has been lying to the american people.

Sen. Pryor: Attorney general lied to Senate
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/03/15/fired.attorneys/index.html

What have the democrats done to violate the rule of law?

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Re: Court Rules in Favor of Enemy Combatant
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2007, 10:57:27 AM »
I believe it is Gonzales that has been lying to the american people.

Sen. Pryor: Attorney general lied to Senate
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/03/15/fired.attorneys/index.html

What have the democrats done to violate the rule of law?

They convened hearings to investigate the alleged unlawful firing of U.S. Attorneys, when their true intent was to embarrass Gonzales into retiring over all of the "other" problems they had with him (e.g., the "torture memo," etc.).  The Democrats' partisan no confidence resolution fiasco proved this. 

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Re: Court Rules in Favor of Enemy Combatant
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2007, 11:03:09 AM »
They convened hearings to investigate the alleged unlawful firing of U.S. Attorneys, when their true intent was to embarrass Gonzales into retiring over all of the "other" problems they had with him (e.g., the "torture memo," etc.).  The Democrats' partisan no confidence resolution fiasco proved this. 
The attorney firings is no small matter.  It's just that in conjunction with Gonzales's other Gestapo tendencies, the firings are not as stark.

If the Congress could assemble the proof to show that the firings were done to influence prosecutorial independence where democrats are targeted for vote fraud investigations right around election time, then we have a very diabolical conspiracy at hand.

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Re: Court Rules in Favor of Enemy Combatant
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2007, 11:09:14 AM »
The attorney firings is no small matter.  It's just that in conjunction with Gonzales's other Gestapo tendencies, the firings are not as stark.

If the Congress could assemble the proof to show that the firings were done to influence prosecutorial independence where democrats are targeted for vote fraud investigations right around election time, then we have a very diabolical conspiracy at hand.

The firings were a smokescreen.  There was nothing there. 

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Re: Court Rules in Favor of Enemy Combatant
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2007, 11:17:25 AM »
The firings were a smokescreen.  There was nothing there. 
That's your opinion.  Due to the lies and lack of Congressional will, we may never know.

But we do know this, the US Atty's lying to Congress has undermined his integrity and by extension, the integrity of the Dept. of Justice.