What the hell kinda question is that?
Matt - put the pipe down.
Do you smoke salvia extract?
![Huh ???](http://www.getbig.com/boards/Smileys/classic/huh.gif)
Actually, better question: if Phil's arms were average to you think he would be pro?
Is Phil 5'9? Matt C just loves men that are 5'9 ![Smiley :)](http://www.getbig.com/boards/Smileys/classic/smiley.gif)
Damn right!! Phil has one of the greatest builds around, but you should see the difference between Phil in a tracksuit and Victor in a tracksuit - Phil looks "ordinary" (as far as bodybuilders go), whereas Victor still looked liked a tank. Phil is still able to hide his muscles somewhat, relative to the mass monsters at least.
But I think Phil is actually 5'10. When I came to the Classic I was wearing thicker shoes because the weather was pretty frigid in Columbus and Phil was in sneakers (yes, I pay attention to these things.
![Grin ;D](http://www.getbig.com/boards/Smileys/classic/grin.gif)
). 5'10 and around 220 I think! Isaac is like 6'2 I think.