Author Topic: Supplements and AAS (Read 6790 times)

clayton green · « **on:** June 17, 2007, 08:17:51 AM »

Besides a good multivitamin and a liver cleanser (Milk Thisle) are there any other recommended vitamins or herbs recommended while on AAS?

Luolamies · « **Reply #1 on:** June 17, 2007, 01:24:10 PM »

Whey, higher dose c-vitamin, fish oil and maybe prostate formula...

Arnold jr · « **Reply #2 on:** June 17, 2007, 01:41:31 PM »

For what it's worth, here's what I take.
Fish oil
Evening primose oil
Glucosamine
Juice plus

The oils are needed for nutrition, the gluco for joint relief...not sure if it actually helps though, but it can't hurt. The Juice Plus, I highly recommend this to anyone, this stuff is fantastic. You take it 2x per day and get the equivalent of 10 servings of fruits and vegtables...fantastic for your immune system. No need for a multi if you take this stuff, but take one if you want, it won't hurt. I was skeptical about this stuff at first, but I'm sold on it now...very helpful.

As far as liver protection goes, I don't take anything until after my cycle and then I only use Liv-52.

trab · « **Reply #3 on:** June 17, 2007, 02:27:54 PM »

I like the Pro Source brand Multi-Vits, very good.
Calcium magnesium and Zinc in the evening.

Hardgainers-If your trying for max bloat - Gatorade w/ a couple spoons of creatine & Glutamine, slug down about 2 liters & extra water during your workout, you can come out of a workout 5lbs heavier. Stretch that muscle.

Cottage cheese before bed for bulk.

akers1021 · « **Reply #4 on:** June 17, 2007, 04:28:14 PM »

Liver support:

Milk Thistle 2000 mg's a day
L-Gluthathione 500 mg's a day
NAC 1200 mg's a day
Alpha Lipoic Acid 300-600 mg's day
Dandelion Root around 1500 mg's a day for the bloating if you bulking
Vit C around 2000 mg's a day

Gluc/Chon/MSM stack for joints shoot for 1500 mg Glu, 1200 Chon, 1000 mg MSM.

Also what I might suggest for the Lipid problems:
Red Yeast Rice- 1200 mg's day
Co-Q10- between 100 and 200 mg's a day
Fish oil- choose a supp that gives you 900 mg or EPA not FISH OIL the extract of EPA. Turn the bottle around and see how much EPA you get per 1000 mgs of fish oil VERY important, most people think 1-1000 mg softgel of fish oil is enough. In reality it takes about 4-7 of most Fish oil products to get you 900 mg's of EPA.
Policosanol and Beta sisterol are optional....

clayton green · « **Reply #5 on:** June 17, 2007, 05:03:39 PM »

Quote from: Arnold jr on June 17, 2007, 01:41:31 PM

For what it's worth, here's what I take.
Fish oil
Evening primose oil
Glucosamine
Juice plus

The oils are needed for nutrition, the gluco for joint relief...not sure if it actually helps though, but it can't hurt. The Juice Plus, I highly recommend this to anyone, this stuff is fantastic. You take it 2x per day and get the equivalent of 10 servings of fruits and vegtables...fantastic for your immune system. No need for a multi if you take this stuff, but take one if you want, it won't hurt. I was skeptical about this stuff at first, but I'm sold on it now...very helpful.

Arnold,

Where do you buy the Juice plus?

As far as liver protection goes, I don't take anything until after my cycle and then I only use Liv-52.

Arnold jr · « **Reply #6 on:** June 17, 2007, 06:49:48 PM »

Quote from: akers1021 on June 17, 2007, 04:28:14 PM

Gluc/Chon/MSM stack for joints shoot for 1500 mg Glu, 1200 Chon, 1000 mg MSM.

Just a little FYI, several studies have shown that males who take chondriton have a stronger risk of prostate problems....you'll notice because of this, many supplement companies carry gluco with and without chon.

Clayton,

https://www.juiceplus.com/nsa/pages/Home.soa?site=dp02724

dr_para24 · « **Reply #7 on:** June 17, 2007, 08:12:11 PM »

Quote from: clayton green on June 17, 2007, 08:17:51 AM

Besides a good multivitamin and a liver cleanser (Milk Thisle) are there any other recommended vitamins or herbs recommended while on AAS?

Try Liv 52 that is a liver protection pills.

irondave · « **Reply #8 on:** June 17, 2007, 08:45:39 PM »

fuck taking all those pills i take multi vite and creatine i took all that fish oil and joint stuff before didnt notice any thing. i took 20 pills a day for 3yrs im done with all the pills

Rimbaud · « **Reply #9 on:** June 18, 2007, 05:24:01 AM »

For what it's worth here's what I take: (on cycle or off)
9 Cod Liver Oil Tablets (split up during the day)
4000mg of MSM (for joint relief - split up during the day)
5 Dessicated Liver Tablets (taken at bedtime)
1 Tablespoon of NOW Joint Support Powder
Protein Powder

I also take about 1.5 grams of the following in a shake in the middle of the day:
Guto Kola
Ginko
Dandelion Root
Echinacea
Hawthorn Berry
Spirulina

wes mantooth · « **Reply #10 on:** June 18, 2007, 05:37:15 AM »

Quote from: irondave on June 17, 2007, 08:45:39 PM

fuck taking all those pills i take multi vite and creatine i took all that fish oil and joint stuff before didnt notice any thing. i took 20 pills a day for 3yrs im done with all the pills

agreed....too many pills, regardless of how "good" it is on you can tax the liver...

multi vit
vita c

busyB · « **Reply #11 on:** June 18, 2007, 06:29:04 AM »

Multi-Vitamin
Multi Mineral
Liver Detox by Am. Cellular
ZMA before bed
Glutamine- 20 g. day spread out
ALRi WTF- Pre Workout Creatine-NO-stimulants
Pure Vitargo, Whey post workout

MY own MRP (2-3 x day):
2 scoops Blended protein
1/2-1 c. oats
Greens Blend
Udo Oil- 1 tbsn

DIVISION · « **Reply #12 on:** June 18, 2007, 02:52:46 PM »

Quote from: clayton green on June 17, 2007, 08:17:51 AM

Besides a good multivitamin and a liver cleanser (Milk Thisle) are there any other recommended vitamins or herbs recommended while on AAS?

I could go on and on about what supplements you could take while on, but remember that your liver and kidneys must process everything and you don't want to strain them any more than you need to during your cycle.

Milk Thistle will reduce the effectiveness of your orals, so keep that in mind.

My endocrinologist is of the opinion that if your liver is healthy, then you shouldn't worry about safeguarding it during your cycle and if it's not, then you shouldn't be using 17AA orals anyway.

I typically only up the C + E while on cycle and let my body do the rest.

DIV

4thAD · « **Reply #13 on:** June 18, 2007, 07:31:42 PM »

Fish Oil
Liv-52
Hawthorn Berry
Multi-Vitamin
NAC(which I'm currently out of!)

BigFish · « **Reply #14 on:** June 21, 2007, 01:39:08 PM »

thanks for the link for the Juice Plus AJ. Checked it out and it looks like good stuff, but kinda pricey...

Arnold jr · « **Reply #15 on:** June 21, 2007, 02:27:44 PM »

Quote from: BigFish on June 21, 2007, 01:39:08 PM

thanks for the link for the Juice Plus AJ. Checked it out and it looks like good stuff, but kinda pricey...

Yes it is, but it is worth it. You know one thing to keep in mind is how much money a lot of guys blow on useless supplements and they don't think twice about it. But here is something that is actually worth while and in reality doesn't cost half as much as some of the BS we see and read about in various advertisements. There is no claim that this product will boost testosterone 200% put 7" on your arms, give you insane exploding pumps, turn you into Mr O...nothing more then a good supplement designed for over all health and proper immune function...two things a lot of BB are lacking because of the way in which we live. you know BB is great, but if you pursue it hardcore style, you miss out on a lot of nutrients and things that keep the body in perfect perfroming function...particularly in contest prep stages.

Rimbaud · « **Reply #16 on:** June 21, 2007, 02:49:05 PM »

Juice Plus looks like a great supplement - I just wish I could afford the almost $500 a year for it. Ahhhh maybe one day.

Arnold jr · « **Reply #17 on:** June 21, 2007, 02:59:41 PM »

Quote from: Rimbaud on June 21, 2007, 02:49:05 PM

Juice Plus looks like a great supplement - I just wish I could afford the almost $500 a year for it. Ahhhh maybe one day.

Hey, $40 a month, that's not to bad for a supplement that is actually worth while. Of course you could use that money to buy a 2wks worth supply of the newest Muscle Tech phenom supplement...I know, it's a toss up.

Rimbaud · « **Reply #18 on:** June 21, 2007, 03:07:53 PM »

You mean I shouldn't bought all that Cell-tech & Nitro-tech...damn.

I know what you mean. If I had the cash right now I'd be all over that supplement. Ah, maybe next year.

Arnold jr · « **Reply #19 on:** June 21, 2007, 06:20:39 PM »

Quote from: Rimbaud on June 21, 2007, 03:07:53 PM

You mean I shouldn't bought all that Cell-tech & Nitro-tech...damn.

I know what you mean. If I had the cash right now I'd be all over that supplement. Ah, maybe next year.

I thought you were rollin fat?