THE " BIGGER IS BETTER " ARGUMENT

[Cleanest Natural]

I am completely floored.  No sevastase pics?    He usually starts a thread as a vehicle to post his pics. 

Bro you look decent for a 175lb.  That being said, if you were actually trying to get into contest shape you would still have about another 15 or so lbs to lose.  Depleted you'd be a skeleton.

You mentioned somewhere that you have competed, what shows were they and how did you place?

i'm sure not as good or as high as you...I've posted my worst pics ..EVER.. i also posted a pic from when I was 15, after 6 months of training......i'm 31 now...u figure it out baller...

[Cleanest Natural]

i'm 185 in those pics u mention...do your homework if u wanna bash me...don't talk outta your ass ...pimple

[BEAST 8692]

I am completely floored.  No sevastase pics?    He usually starts a thread as a vehicle to post his pics.  

Bro you look decent for a 175lb.  That being said, if you were actually trying to get into contest shape you would still have about another 15 or so lbs to lose.  Depleted you'd be a skeleton.

You mentioned somewhere that you have competed, what shows were they and how did you place?

come on Dball, you can't be serious? he's a lying sack of shit. the only thing sevastase has competed in is the gayrimmer xmas party egg and spoon race and he was the egg.

[The Squadfather]

i'm sure not as good or as high as you...I've posted my worst pics ..EVER.. i also posted a pic from when I was 15, after 6 months of training......i'm 31 now...u figure it out baller...

brutal 12 inch arms.

[climber]

brutal 12 inch arms.

Didn't he say he was 15 in that pic? At least he wasn't a bald witch at 15.. silly bugger should have listened to his parents and become a swimmer.   

[onlyme]

Bigger is better if you look good.  I am bigger than I was before but I look like shit now.  So in my case bigger is worse.  I like myself at a small 298 lbs.

[Cleanest Natural]

Bigger is better if you look good.  I am bigger than I was before but I look like shit now.  So in my case bigger is worse.  I like myself at a small 298 lbs.

how much did u weigh at your heaviest keith?

[climber]

Bigger is better if you look good.  I am bigger than I was before but I look like shit now.  So in my case bigger is worse.  I like myself at a small 298 lbs.

You're a monster! How can you be like 100 pounds more than me. 

[DK II]

<takes already hard cock out his pants, getting ready to wank off>

how much did u weigh at your heaviest keith?

fixed.

[Dballn247]

i'm sure not as good or as high as you...

Brutal truth.

i'm 185 in those pics u mention...do your homework if u wanna bash me...don't talk outta your ass ...pimple

Ok so your 185, I guess your a bit taller than you look.  You still have atleast 15 maybe 20 lbs depending on how tall you are before your ready for a contest stage. 

Epic meltdown because you can't accept the fact that you would have to compete as a lightweight or the bottom of the middle weight class, If you walked onstage in that shape and expected to take a MW title you are delusional. 

[HowieW]

How else was bodybuilding to evolve?  If Lee Haney was competitive in this era he would have the same flaws as the pros today do.  If the argument is that pros today are too big, fine.  I just don't like the ironage.us mentality that pros could be just as big but still maintain their great tapers and dainty waists - not possible.  Not saying you're saying that, but some have done so.  I think bodybuilders should develop as much as possible whilst maintaining their shape and lines.

It is a PHYSIQUE contest, bigger is not better when the overal body line and shape is distorted.
The ideals and glorification of being a "freak" and monster have hurt this ideal.     Howard

[Cleanest Natural]

Brutal truth.

Ok so your 185, I guess your a bit taller than you look.  You still have atleast 15 maybe 20 lbs depending on how tall you are before your ready for a contest stage. 

Epic meltdown because you can't accept the fact that you would have to compete as a lightweight or the bottom of the middle weight class, If you walked onstage in that shape and expected to take a MW title you are delusional. 

dballin...my heaviest weight on stage was 219 at 5'11" ...under ron love's guidance in 2003. spot on ..too.        brutal i'm heavier on stage than u ...                                                                                                   

[BEAST 8692]

dballin...my heaviest weight on stage was 219 at 5'11" ...under ron love's guidance in 2003. spot on ..too.        brutal i'm heavier on stage than u ...                                                                                                   

useless w/o contest pics

[Cleanest Natural]

useless w/o contest pics

of course beast... ..just as your comments and anyone elses are useles unles u post pics. How do I know u are not a swimmer?...if u are is ok...

[BEAST 8692]

of course beast... ..just as your comments and anyone elses are useles unles u post pics. How do I know u are not a swimmer?...if u are is ok...

i am a swimmer.

i'm not the one making statements sevastase and it's not like you don't like posting pics, so it naturally follows that if you have pics where you're in you best condition at 218 or whatever, that you would post those pics.

you've posted so many pics, why would you not post those?

easy answer, because you are full of shit.

[Fulgorre]

Bigger is better given the quality of the muscle stays the same.  The problem, as Lee Labrada pointed out on PBW, is the muscle are just bigger.  They lack the intense detail of the 1980's and 1990's pro.

[bigkubby]

I have noticed in the past 10-15 years that most of the rec and serious lifters disregard everything else and focus just on " big" , massive , freaky, etc. This is what I like to call  " GENERATION FLEX" . However , bb is so much more than that . The endless arguments and squibbers I had with the in house retardos resume to one topic only " not big enough ", " swimmer " , etc. Why do u think simetry , proportions and aesthetics are so disregarded nowadays at both pro and rec level?

i think flex is the description of mass with class and thats what i think a  mr olympia should be

[DK II]

i am a swimmer.

i'm not the one making statements sevastase and it's not like you don't like posting pics, so it naturally follows that if you have pics where you're in you best condition at 218 or whatever, that you would post those pics.

you've posted so many pics, why would you not post those?

easy answer, because you are full of shit.

brutal truth.

[phreak]

i am a swimmer.

i'm not the one making statements sevastase and it's not like you don't like posting pics, so it naturally follows that if you have pics where you're in you best condition at 218 or whatever, that you would post those pics.

you've posted so many pics, why would you not post those?

easy answer, because you are full of shit.

Monster confronting with reality.

[Honour]

Yeah I personally like the Shawn Ray type physique or that of Flex Wheeler. It's still a shame to me that either of those guys never won a Mr O (no matter what people may think of their personality's ). What year was it that Dorian Yates beat Shawn Ray in the O with like one arm . Imo That is the kind of thing that has set a bad president for the way things have been judged in the last 10 years or so. Dennis Wolf and Tony Freeman are 2 guys that i think should be getting good placements nowdays, if they are in great condition etc...

[Zugzwang]

That is the kind of thing that has set a bad president...

[Cleanest Natural]

too much oil in flex wheeler...shawn gets my vote.

[Honour]

Whoops Precedent .

[BIG ACH]

Kai Greene and Dennis Wolfe - Great size and Symmetry.

Victor Martinez - Great size and Symmetry.



But its true, people wanna see freaks, that is what sells the tickets and the magazines.  Hell, when I was younger I just wanted to be a massive freak...  Then I realized that I'm never going to be like that, especially that I'm natural, so now I also regard the importance of symmetry and cuts.  But that is not to say size isn't important!

[Playboy]

In bbdg, you need to posses the whole package. Size included. Being small and cut just doesn't win shows. Period. Personally, I would rather look bigger with symmetry and proportion then one of those gimp baywatch characters that weigh 150lbs soaked and wet.

PB