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« on: June 19, 2007, 05:43:39 AM »
What is required for strong, toned and sculpted abs? Is it all about diet and cardio? I am hearing that crunches alone is not the answer; how much work is required to whittle a 30-inch waist down to a 24 or 26-inch waist?

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Re: Abs
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2007, 06:41:32 AM »
Quote from: Mimi6 on June 19, 2007, 05:43:39 AM
What is required for strong, toned and sculpted abs? Is it all about diet and cardio? I am hearing that crunches alone is not the answer; how much work is required to whittle a 30-inch waist down to a 24 or 26-inch waist?

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Definately diet, cardio and you need to train abs like you would any other body part with the same hard intensity. Diet is very important here. The "moderation" theory must be thrown out the window. Eat clean and you'll prosper  :)

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Re: Abs
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2007, 07:03:11 AM »
What do you mean by eat clean; I keep reading that. ??? I am not sure what is required to eat clean? I am some what new to this type of training.

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Re: Abs
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2007, 07:10:34 AM »
Quote from: Mimi6 on June 19, 2007, 07:03:11 AM
What do you mean by eat clean; I keep reading that. ??? I am not sure what is required to eat clean? I am some what new to this type of training.

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No Ice cream, ding dongs, french fries, bacon, cookies, chocolate (sorry ladies) burger king, mcdonald's, etc,etc,etc. Get the picture?

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Re: Abs
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2007, 07:14:41 AM »
Mimi, it means keep away from fatty foods and empty calories.
Just eat healthy stuff that's going to provide you with the proper nutrients to build your body.
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Re: Abs
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2007, 07:20:00 AM »
Diet is number one to see abs..................... ..period
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Re: Abs
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2007, 07:25:53 AM »
I always thought it was muscle tone & definition and a lack of fat that enabled one to see the abs.
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Re: Abs
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2007, 07:46:20 AM »
Do you suggest counting calories?

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Re: Abs
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2007, 08:27:00 AM »
Mimi, are you a bodybuilder, do you plan to pursue it? or are you more interested in toning & sculpting your physique? I'm not a bodybuilder or fitness model and have no aspirations to pursue that path.

I don't obsess over numbers, ...either calories, or weight, and would never advise anyone to do that unless they are into competition of some sort. I think limiting portions would be a more sensible, reasonable and far less painful approach to accomplishing fitness goals. But that's just my take on it.
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Re: Abs
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2007, 08:31:05 AM »
Diet and exercise..

I don't even do crunches and I'll have a 6 pack for the Mr. Getbig..  :P Abs develop from squats, bending and twisting your torso and deadlifts..

Crunches, or ab machines are worthless. Althought situps are very good if you want a strong core.
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Re: Abs
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2007, 08:40:43 AM »
Quote from: jaguarenterprises on June 19, 2007, 08:27:00 AM
Mimi, are you a bodybuilder, do you plan to pursue it? or are you more interested in toning & sculpting your physique? I'm not a bodybuilder or fitness model and have no aspirations to pursue that path.

I don't obsess over numbers, ...either calories, or weight, and would never advise anyone to do that unless they are into competition of some sort. I think limiting portions would be a more sensible, reasonable and far less painful approach to accomplishing fitness goals. But that's just my take on it.

I am not looking to compete; I am more interested in being healthy & toned. I am short and would like to develop a curvy physique. I don't eat a lot of junk food, but my abs are weak from having children. I am not concerned about my weight on the scale; I am looking to change my body composition.

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Re: Abs
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2007, 08:43:01 AM »
Quote from: Mimi6 on June 19, 2007, 08:40:43 AM
I am not looking to compete; I am more interested in being healthy & toned. I am short and would like to develop a curvy physique. I don't eat a lot of junk food, but my abs are weak from having children. I am not concerned about my weight on the scale; I am looking to change my body composition.

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Cool. Follow the above advises and you'll do very well. Welcome to the world of the fit  :)
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Re: Abs
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2007, 08:49:29 AM »
Quote from: Playboy on June 19, 2007, 08:43:01 AM
Cool. Follow the above advises and you'll do very well. Welcome to the world of the fit  :)

Thanks; I will try to do that. I just have this bad habit of over analysing things; I am somewhat of a perfectionist.

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Re: Abs
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2007, 10:37:29 AM »
Quote from: Camel  Jockey on June 19, 2007, 08:31:05 AM
Diet and exercise..

I don't even do crunches and I'll have a 6 pack for the Mr. Getbig..  :P Abs develop from squats, bending and twisting your torso and deadlifts..

Crunches, or ab machines are worthless. Althought situps are very good if you want a strong core.
Not so true for women, Camel.  Diet and cardio for fat burning and training the abs via abdominal stimuli (exercise that crunches and contracts the abdominals) is what works for women.
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Re: Abs
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2007, 10:45:18 AM »
Okay so this might be a little on the gross side, but I use it as motivation, (yea so I am a sicko, big deal  ;D )

Coroner's have stated that the one thing is common in every autopsy done on a human is that they all have developed ab muscles.
its doesn't matter if you are extremely obese or a professional athlete, the "6 pack" is always there, it is part of natural human development

The trick is to have it show from behind all the fatty tissue.  That is all that is needed to have abs, and that is the really hard part.
Everybody has got abs, you just need to get them to show themselves.
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Re: Abs
« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2007, 10:47:47 AM »
Quote from: Original Sin on June 19, 2007, 10:45:18 AM
Okay so this might be a little on the gross side, but I use it as motivation, (yea so I am a sicko, big deal  ;D )

Coroner's have stated that the one thing is common in every autopsy done on a human is that they all have developed ab muscles.
its doesn't matter if you are extremely obese or a professional athlete, the "6 pack" is always there, it is part of natural human development

The trick is to have it show from behind all the fatty tissue.  That is all that is needed to have abs, and that is the really hard part.
Everybody has got abs, you just need to get them to show themselves.
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Re: Abs
« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2007, 11:05:53 AM »
Quote from: Original Sin on June 19, 2007, 10:45:18 AM
Okay so this might be a little on the gross side, but I use it as motivation, (yea so I am a sicko, big deal  ;D )

Coroner's have stated that the one thing is common in every autopsy done on a human is that they all have developed ab muscles.
its doesn't matter if you are extremely obese or a professional athlete, the "6 pack" is always there, it is part of natural human development

The trick is to have it show from behind all the fatty tissue.  That is all that is needed to have abs, and that is the really hard part.
Everybody has got abs, you just need to get them to show themselves.
And the only way that will happen is through cardio and a kickass diet.
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Re: Abs
« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2007, 12:39:29 PM »
Right, there Power lifters with increadably strong midsections who look like Michalen Man.
They have deep abs under all the fat.

Ditch all drinks except water for awhile, even quit diet drinks IMO. Drink plenty of clean water.
Take a good look at the % of Carbs to protine your eating, and try to get down to a minimal amt of carbs that you can function well on. Learn the difference between HI & Lo Glycimic index carbs and lean towards slowburning carbs the give steady sustained energy instead of peak and crash. Pick out lots of lean protines w/ not a lot of fat, but in some respects fat is better diet fuel than carbs, no insulin response or water retention from Fat. But a fat Kcal is a Kcal.

**Do your cardio on a empty stomach 1st thing in the Am! This is a nice little way to get more bang for your cardio!***
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Re: Abs
« Reply #18 on: June 19, 2007, 01:11:39 PM »
**Do your cardio on a empty stomach 1st thing in the Am! This is a nice little way to get more bang for your cardio!***

Very good point, Trab.

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Re: Abs
« Reply #19 on: June 19, 2007, 02:31:33 PM »
there's another factor, slow crunches and sciscors will enhance the abs because they tend to tighten the skin around the muscle. I don't really know what the process behind it is, but I can see it on my own abs. After some abwork, this style: slow and really focussing on the overextension and the contraction: http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/RectusAbdominis/WtBallCrunch.html  (I generally use some pillows instead of a ball) my ab definition is improved for a few days and then the effect wears off.
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Re: Abs
« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2007, 11:11:21 AM »
Quote from: Samourai Pizzacat on June 19, 2007, 02:31:33 PM
there's another factor, slow crunches and sciscors will enhance the abs because they tend to tighten the skin around the muscle. I don't really know what the process behind it is, but I can see it on my own abs. After some abwork, this style: slow and really focussing on the overextension and the contraction: http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/RectusAbdominis/WtBallCrunch.html  (I generally use some pillows instead of a ball) my ab definition is improved for a few days and then the effect wears off.

Are you talking about scissor kicks?

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Re: Abs
« Reply #21 on: June 22, 2007, 11:38:40 AM »
no, I'll see if I can find a picture, perhaps it has a different name.
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Re: Abs
« Reply #22 on: June 22, 2007, 01:05:09 PM »
Quote from: Samourai Pizzacat on June 22, 2007, 11:38:40 AM
no, I'll see if I can find a picture, perhaps it has a different name.

That would be great; thanks ;D

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Re: Abs
« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2007, 03:07:22 AM »
Quote from: Samourai Pizzacat on June 22, 2007, 11:38:40 AM
no, I'll see if I can find a picture, perhaps it has a different name.

Again, although I sound like a scratched record repeating itself: I suggest regular strenous sex.  Twice a day M-F and 24/7 at weekends.


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Re: Abs
« Reply #24 on: July 05, 2007, 06:30:07 PM »
Quote from: xxxLinda on June 26, 2007, 03:07:22 AM
Again, although I sound like a scratched record repeating itself: I suggest regular strenous sex.  Twice a day M-F and 24/7 at weekends.


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sex or sit-ups, one of my life-long rules.
go sideways, crunch

I could see this as being possible if I was screwing a different guy each day of the week ;). I think my husband might have a problem with that. I thought we were doing good; we average 4-5 times a week ???. Maybe I should get some Viagra :-[.

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