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Father found guilty in honor killing
« on: June 19, 2007, 11:43:48 PM »
Father found guilty in honor killing
By PAISLEY DODDS,
Associated Press Writer
Mon Jun 11, 2:48 PM ET
 

Reuters Photo:Ari Mahmod is seen in
an undated police handout image,
released to Reuters June 11, 2007

 
LONDON - A father who ordered his daughter brutally slain for falling in love with the wrong man in a so-called "honor killing" was found guilty of murder on Monday.

Banaz Mahmod, 20, was strangled with a boot lace, stuffed into a suitcase and buried in a back garden.

Her death is the latest in an increasing trend of such killings in Britain, home to some 1.8 million Muslims. More than 100 homicides are under investigation as potential "honor killings."

Mahmod Mahmod, 52, and his brother Ari Mahmod, 51, planned the killing during a family meeting, prosecutors told the court. Two others have pleaded guilty in the case. Two more suspects have fled the country. Sentencing is expected later this month.

The men accused the young woman of shaming her family by ending an abusive arranged marriage, becoming too Westernized and falling in love with a man who didn't come from their Iraqi village. The Kurdish family came to Britain in 1998 when Banaz Mahmod was 11.

"She was my present, my future, my hope," said Rahmat Suleimani, 29, Banaz Mahmod's boyfriend.

During the three-month trial, prosecutors said Mahmod's father beat his daughter for using hairspray and adopting other Western ways. Her uncle once told her she would have been "turned to ashes" if she were his daughter and had shamed the family by becoming involved with the Iranian Kurd, her sister 22-year-old Bekhal Mahmod testified.

Banaz Mahmod ran away from home when she was a teenager but returned when her father sent her an audio tape in which he warned he would kill her sisters, her mother and himself if she did not come home, her sister said.

She was later hospitalized after her brother attacked her, the sister told the court. The brother said he had been paid by their father to finish her off but in the end was unable to do it, said the sister, who testified in a full black burqa. She said she still feared for her own life.

The years of Banaz Mahmod's abuse were compounded by police officers who repeatedly dismissed her cries for help.

She first went to police in December 2005, saying she suspected her uncle was trying to kill her and her boyfriend. She sent police a letter naming the men who she thought would later kill her.

On New Year's Eve, she was lured by her father to her grandmother's home, where she suspected he planned to attack her after he forced her to gulp down brandy and approached her while wearing gloves. She escaped by breaking a window and was treated at a hospital.

Police dismissed her suspicions, and one officer, who is under investigation, considered charging her with damages for breaking her grandmother's window.

Laying in her hospital bed after the escape, Mahmod recorded a dramatic video message saying she was "really scared."

The videotape, taken by her boyfriend at the hospital, was shown to the jury during the trial.

After she was released from the hospital, she returned home and tried to convince her family she had stopped seeing her boyfriend.

But friends told the family they spotted the couple together on Jan. 22, 2006.

Soon after, a group of men allegedly approached her boyfriend and tried to lure him into a car but he refused. It was that event that prompted Banaz Mahmod to go to police again. This time officers tried to persuade her to stay in a safe house. She refused, believing that her mother would protect her.

But her mother and father left her alone in the house the next day. Her boyfriend alerted police after time passed in which she failed to send him text messages.

Her body wasn't discovered until three months later after police tracked phone records.

Britain has seen more than 25 women killed by their Muslim relatives in the past decade for offenses they believed brought shame on the family. More than 100 other homicides are under investigation as potential honor killings.

Some Muslim communities in Britain practice Sharia, or strict Islamic law.

"We're seeing an increase around the world, due in part to the rise in Islamic fundamentalism," said Diana Nammi with the London-based Iranian and Kurdish Women's Rights Organization.
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Re: Father found guilty in honor killing
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2007, 07:31:47 PM »
Judi, i'm surprised you posted this... but I'm happy you did.

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Re: Father found guilty in honor killing
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2007, 08:22:42 PM »
fuckin throwbacks to the barbarian ages

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Re: Father found guilty in honor killing
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2007, 08:46:56 PM »

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Re: Father found guilty in honor killing
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2007, 09:14:27 PM »
Meaning what?

He has a crush on you... He told me in PM.
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Re: Father found guilty in honor killing
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2007, 10:04:28 PM »
He has a crush on you... He told me in PM.

Getbig is a funny place.  ;)

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Re: Father found guilty in honor killing
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2007, 10:21:32 PM »
Judi, i'm surprised you posted this... but I'm happy you did.

Why?  ???  There's a big difference between reposting of news / facts, as opposed to reposting sensationalized speculation designed to inflame and fan the flames of bigotry.

I just wish the news would focus some attention onto the abuses suffered by "western women" as well, who also suffer reprisals for imagined assaults on family honour.  It's not like they don't exist.
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Re: Father found guilty in honor killing
« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2007, 06:21:17 AM »
Why?  ???  There's a big difference between reposting of news / facts, as opposed to reposting sensationalized speculation designed to inflame and fan the flames of bigotry.

I just wish the news would focus some attention onto the abuses suffered by "western women" as well, who also suffer reprisals for imagined assaults on family honour.  It's not like they don't exist.


uh-oh someone needs their morning flogging. make me a sandwich women

that kinda assault?

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Re: Father found guilty in honor killing
« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2007, 07:13:19 AM »
jaguarenterprises, do you believe islam has any role to play in this tragic case?
الاسلام هو شيطانية

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Re: Father found guilty in honor killing
« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2007, 09:20:09 AM »
jaguarenterprises, do you believe islam has any role to play in this tragic case?

Not answering for Judi, but of course it does.

Judi, the difference is that in the Western world, women enjoy equality under the law. The more Sharia law becomes accepted within our Western culture, the more women's status is undermined, and sadly, those women who live in fear under Sharia law are marginalized, and the crimes against them swept under the rug.  The more exposure, the better.  Europe is a mess!!!

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Re: Father found guilty in honor killing
« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2007, 09:20:55 AM »

uh-oh someone needs their morning flogging. make me a sandwich women

that kinda assault?

Mustard or mayo?  :D

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Re: Father found guilty in honor killing
« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2007, 09:36:48 AM »
Judi, the difference is that in the Western world, women enjoy equality under the law. The more Sharia law becomes accepted within our Western culture, the more women's status is undermined, and sadly, those women who live in fear under Sharia law are marginalized, and the crimes against them swept under the rug.  The more exposure, the better.  Europe is a mess!!!
well said, Deedee. 

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Re: Father found guilty in honor killing
« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2007, 09:57:30 AM »
These are the same kinda people who p,anned to blow up down town Toronto...its about time Canada wakes up. Sharia law has no place anywhere.
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Re: Father found guilty in honor killing
« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2007, 11:26:41 AM »
These are the same kinda people who p,anned to blow up down town Toronto...its about time Canada wakes up. Sharia law has no place anywhere.

I don't know actually.

I think we should allow it in britain if the muslims accept it only complies to them, and not the free thinking brits.

Example: if they cheat, drink, etc they will be executed (stoned, hung, no needles etc) under the guidance of the koran and sharia law.

Maybe we should give it a dry run.
الاسلام هو شيطانية

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Re: Father found guilty in honor killing
« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2007, 12:51:38 PM »

Didn't America use the 'he gassed his own people!' line as justification for going after Saddam? 

And wasn't it the Kurds that he gassed?

Looks like he was doing us all a favor.

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Re: Father found guilty in honor killing
« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2007, 04:40:37 PM »
Didn't America use the 'he gassed his own people!' line as justification for going after Saddam? 

And wasn't it the Kurds that he gassed?

Looks like he was doing us all a favor.


This has been happening here..

I knew a story of a pakistani man who extorted his friend's daughter.. He threatened to tell her father about her highschool bf unless she had sex with him. He was raping here for months before she mustered up the courage to call the cops..

This Islam stuff is just garbage. Good people who are civilized need to move the fuck away from it.

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Re: Father found guilty in honor killing
« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2007, 06:08:35 PM »
Not answering for Judi, but of course it does.

Judi, the difference is that in the Western world, women enjoy equality under the law. The more Sharia law becomes accepted within our Western culture, the more women's status is undermined, and sadly, those women who live in fear under Sharia law are marginalized, and the crimes against them swept under the rug.  The more exposure, the better.  Europe is a mess!!!

Who the heck accepts Sharia law in our culture?  :o Exposure is one thing, hate mongering another.
I'm all for exposing the brutality & injustice. Not at all for hate & fear mongering.
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Re: Father found guilty in honor killing
« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2007, 07:05:12 PM »
It won't be hate and fear mongering when Toronto or Vancouver is in ruins.
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Re: Father found guilty in honor killing
« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2007, 07:10:59 PM »
As someone who supports the war (mostly) I would say that destroying Saddam was a good thing for this very reason.  On the other hand, I get the returning feeling that if that entire portion of the world was turned to glass it might save us the trouble.  Islam is a religion of fanatics, sadists, and all around human garbage.  I just hope my own country doesn't succumb to the cancer of "tolerance."

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Re: Father found guilty in honor killing
« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2007, 07:20:39 PM »
It won't be hate and fear mongering when Toronto or Vancouver is in ruins.

You really think Sharia law is going to get a foothold here?  ::)
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Re: Father found guilty in honor killing
« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2007, 07:23:47 PM »
As someone who supports the war (mostly) I would say that destroying Saddam was a good thing for this very reason.

How do you reckon, when it was Saddam who kept the religious fanatics in check?

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  On the other hand, I get the returning feeling that if that entire portion of the world was turned to glass it might save us the trouble.  Islam is a religion of fanatics, sadists, and all around human garbage.  I just hope my own country doesn't succumb to the cancer of "tolerance."

After a statement like that, I'm guessing many of your countrymen are cringing with embarrassment,
...and calling themselves Canadians, ...but I could be wrong.  :P
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Re: Father found guilty in honor killing
« Reply #23 on: June 25, 2007, 08:01:38 PM »

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Re: Father found guilty in honor killing
« Reply #24 on: June 25, 2007, 08:10:08 PM »
Tolerance of shitbags that would use a six yeasr old kid asa suicide bomber...fly planes in to buildings....blow up pizza joints..nope no tolerance here..I hope they all get on the same bus and it crashes...short of that a virus that wipes them all, out would be nice...nothing good but oil has come out of the Middle East. And please don't give me that science and math crap..we've figured eveything else out, we would have figured out whatever else the rags had come up with as well. Islam is the religion of hate and intolerance.
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