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Re: Losing Muslim hearts and minds
« Reply #25 on: June 26, 2007, 02:46:52 PM »
didn't ya just act all uppity for me getting personal...

douchebag  :-\

and no...i think you r prolly an ugly fat fuck..prove me wrong..

you wont  :-\

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Re: Losing Muslim hearts and minds
« Reply #26 on: June 26, 2007, 02:56:27 PM »
Durka durka mohammed jihad!

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Re: Losing Muslim hearts and minds
« Reply #27 on: June 26, 2007, 02:58:43 PM »
Oh let the sun beat down upon my face, stars to fill my dream
I am a traveler of both time and space, to be where I have been
To sit with elders of the gentle race, this world has seldom seen
They talk of days for which they sit and wait and all will be revealed

right...

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Re: Losing Muslim hearts and minds
« Reply #28 on: June 26, 2007, 03:03:38 PM »
right...

cowadice..your last refuge from the complex..  :-\

Hmm, 1% of getbig give personal information and pictures. I'm in the normal range pal.

You're the minority once again muslim, just how you like it!
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Re: Losing Muslim hearts and minds
« Reply #29 on: June 26, 2007, 03:26:01 PM »
Hmm, 1% of getbig give personal information and pictures. I'm in the normal range pal.

You're the minority once again muslim, just how you like it!

the 1 % of good looking people.. ;)  the rest of yall r fat and ugly and its more than 1 %...check the picture board..there is a WHOLE BOARD dedicated to pix fatfuck..


...and not only you r ugly and fat you r also  a dumbfuck arentcha..i have told you about 20 times i dont believe in god..alah..buddah etc..

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Re: Losing Muslim hearts and minds
« Reply #30 on: June 26, 2007, 03:29:12 PM »
the 1 % of good looking people..

Why did you post your picture then? ???

Told you again, I was blessed with a nordic jaw, blue eyes and the rest of the shit your mamma loves! :-*

I could pull up a shitload of pictures of ugly fuckers on getbig my freind. Do me a favour and post yours so that I don't have to go through getbig to prove my point.
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Re: Losing Muslim hearts and minds
« Reply #31 on: June 26, 2007, 09:48:53 PM »


Told you again, I was blessed with a nordic jaw, blue eyes \


lies..

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Re: Losing Muslim hearts and minds
« Reply #32 on: June 27, 2007, 02:18:34 AM »
lies..

liar..fat..ugly  :-\

::)

Oh brother...
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Re: Losing Muslim hearts and minds
« Reply #33 on: June 27, 2007, 03:28:26 AM »
There's no moderation in islam, this is a coined term by western politically correct media.

How can the infallible word of god be moderated by man?

Do you mean to say: most muslims really aren't muslims, but call themselves muslims?

Good point.

I'd like to elaborate:

Moderate muslims are in reality muslims who aren't prepared to go the whole nine yards to be a muslim.

It's some kind of half-assing.

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Re: Losing Muslim hearts and minds
« Reply #34 on: June 27, 2007, 03:28:53 AM »
::)

Oh brother...


prove me wrong ..simple..

you r fat..n ugly..

prove me wrong..simple..

you cant  ;D
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Re: Losing Muslim hearts and minds
« Reply #35 on: June 27, 2007, 03:30:13 AM »
Good point.

I'd like to elaborate:

Moderate muslims are in reality muslims who aren't prepared to go the whole nine yards to be a muslim.

It's some kind of half-assing.

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hedgie hedgie hedgie..

read the koran..dont read online stuff..go to a mosque and get a free one..translated..

you r smarter than this ijit...

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Re: Losing Muslim hearts and minds
« Reply #36 on: June 27, 2007, 03:42:55 AM »
Losing Muslim hearts and minds
Why the White House should worry about a new poll suggesting that even allied Muslim countries believe the U.S. wants to weaken and divide the Islamic world.


EDITORIAL - The Los Angeles Times, April 25, 2007

IT HAS BEEN a long and bloody spring in Iraq and Afghanistan, but on the battlefield of ideas, the news is even less encouraging. A survey released Tuesday by WorldPublic-Opinion.org suggests that the struggle for Muslim hearts and minds may already be lost.

Overwhelming majorities of those surveyed in Egypt, Morocco, Pakistan and Indonesia say they believe that the U.S. seeks to "weaken and divide the Islamic world" and to "achieve political and military domination to control Middle East resources." Most say they think that Al Qaeda defends the dignity of Muslims by standing up to the U.S., and most share the terrorist organization's goal of evicting the U.S. military from the Mideast.

More alarming is the support among citizens of allied countries for attacking U.S. troops in Iraq. That includes 91% of those polled in Egypt, 68% in Morocco, 35% in Pakistan and 19% in Indonesia. Approval rates for attacks on U.S. troops based in Afghanistan and the Persian Gulf states were almost as high. (The polling was conducted between December and February, with support from the University of Maryland.)

These numbers should be memorized by members of Congress and President Bush as they gird this week for the latest battle over Iraq war funding and timetables for troop withdrawal. One of the administration's key rationales for deploying troops longer than the Democratic Congress wishes is to prevent Iraq from becoming an Al Qaeda beachhead. To the extent that the U.S. presence in the Middle East increases support for Al Qaeda, as the poll suggests, will prolonging the American military mission be counterproductive to the broader struggle against radical Islamic fanaticism and terror?

The pollsters found two rays of hope relevant to Washington strategists. First, large majorities of the Muslims polled strongly disapprove of attacks on U.S. civilians. Second, probably due to the carnage that he has inflicted on fellow Muslims, Osama Bin Laden's ratings are falling. In Jordan, for example, 60% expressed confidence in Bin Laden in 2005, but after the Al Qaeda suicide bombing of a Jordanian wedding party, confidence fell to 34% in 2006, according to pollster Steven Kull. Still, the latest survey finds large majorities expressing either positive or mixed feelings about Bin Laden.

Many apparently rationalize their support for Al Qaeda by concluding that it wasn't behind 9/11. Despite Bin Laden's televised boasting, fewer than one in four surveyed — and just 2% of Pakistanis — say they think that Al Qaeda masterminded the attacks. This depressing landscape suggests a steep uphill climb for the United States. Yet persuading Muslims of the merits of democratic over theocratic rule remains Washington's only viable long-term strategy to win the generational war against Islamic extremists.

The poll is interesting.

But polls are polls as well. They aren't too reliable. With that being said...

Muslims seems to approve of USA and its people, but not of the troops fighting in Iraq.

I have great concerns about USA (and the Western World) alienating itself from countries where Islam exists.

Because it helps extreme Islamology and Muslim terrorism grow.

Only by building diplomatic relations, economic ties, help the democratic tradition, will we ever fight Islam permanently.

Because Democracy is anti-Islamic. In a democracy, Islam will ultimately cease to exist.

Making enemies in Asia and Africa is a bad move. Short-term, and even more, long-term.

For anyone who is interested, read Clash of Civilizations, by Huntington.

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Re: Losing Muslim hearts and minds
« Reply #37 on: June 27, 2007, 03:46:35 AM »
Only by building diplomatic relations, economic ties, help the democratic tradition, will we ever fight Islam permanently.

Because Democracy is anti-Islamic. In a democracy, Islam will ultimately cease to exist.

Making enemies in Asia and Africa is a bad move. Short-term, and even more, long-term.

For anyone who is interested, read Clash of Civilizations, by Huntington.

-Hedge

This is absolutely true, but not always possible. Obviously nothing is that simple, but democracy undermining islam is the key.

And yes, that's an execellent read.

hedgie hedgie hedgie..

read the koran..dont read online stuff..go to a mosque and get a free one..translated..

you r smarter than this ijit...

Don't insult Hedge, and everyone else for that matter. The koran is the koran. Anything I have EVER posted can be found in any unaltered copy of the koran - in ANY dialect that it is translated.
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Re: Losing Muslim hearts and minds
« Reply #38 on: June 27, 2007, 03:53:09 AM »
i STILL dont see a pic Mr nord  ::)

lets see them blue eyes..

liar...

and nord..i can post stuff from muslim fundie sites that have the bible translated as evil..

seriously..i'm sorry a brownie fucked yer girl..i feel yer pain...
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Re: Losing Muslim hearts and minds
« Reply #39 on: June 27, 2007, 04:07:47 AM »
i STILL dont see a pic Mr nord  ::)

lets see them blue eyes..

liar...

and nord..i can post stuff from muslim fundie sites that have the bible translated as evil..

seriously..i'm sorry a brownie fucked yer girl..i feel yer pain...

FWIW, I've read a very acclaimed translation of the Qur'an. Perfect? No. But likely as good as it gets. Acknowledged by many Muslims as accurate.

We got to read parts of it in high school, we study all world religions in Sweden, at least briefly. I took it home and read the whole thing.

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Re: Losing Muslim hearts and minds
« Reply #40 on: June 27, 2007, 05:44:35 AM »
i STILL dont see a pic Mr nord  ::)

lets see them blue eyes..

liar...

and nord..i can post stuff from muslim fundie sites that have the bible translated as evil..

seriously..i'm sorry a brownie fucked yer girl..i feel yer pain...

What do I care about the bible? Post all you want, it's not my prerogative to refute the bible isn't evil/ideological, you may very well be right, and probably are. But, must I point out that your message is mutually exclusive of the one we are discussing? You have no argument if you defend islam by mentioning the bible every... fucking... time...

But, on the topic of the bible... when contrasting the figures of Jesus and muhammad, there's a big difference. The whole theory of Jesus is one I admire, muhammed, I do not.

These ad hominem attacks you continue to use are fucking embarrassing laddy boy!

Oh... and even if I wasn't Norwegian in decent, me being born in England still leaves the chances of me having blue eyes very likely.

On the topic of eyes... the sexiest women known to man are "brownies" with green eyes :-* Nubians, pakis, indians etc with green eyes are out of this world!
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Re: Losing Muslim hearts and minds
« Reply #41 on: June 27, 2007, 09:54:51 AM »
I have EVER posted can be found in any unaltered copy of the koran - in ANY dialect that it is translated.

thats what YOU say...a nameless faceless hatemonger  :-\


you r no better than the taliban...


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Re: Losing Muslim hearts and minds
« Reply #42 on: June 27, 2007, 09:56:47 AM »
What do I care about the bible? Post all you want, it's not my prerogative to refute the bible isn't evil/ideological, you may very well be right, and probably are. But, must I point out that your message is mutually exclusive of the one we are discussing? You have no argument if you defend islam by mentioning the bible every... fucking... time...

But, on the topic of the bible... when contrasting the figures of Jesus and muhammad, there's a big difference. The whole theory of Jesus is one I admire, muhammed, I do not.

These ad hominem attacks you continue to use are fucking embarrassing laddy boy!

Oh... and even if I wasn't Norwegian in decent, me being born in England still leaves the chances of me having blue eyes very likely.

On the topic of eyes... the sexiest women known to man are "brownies" with green eyes :-* Nubians, pakis, indians etc with green eyes are out of this world!

the fat guy tries a back paddle..

you are NOT norwegian or english...PROVE it if you r..

just like you post lies about islam constantly you have made up this mythic good looking guy thats supposed 2 be you..pfft..prove it..
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Re: Losing Muslim hearts and minds
« Reply #43 on: June 27, 2007, 10:06:22 AM »
When an important figure in the Islamic community..one that these wack jobs and the common folks will listen too..stands up and demands that the terrorists stop, demand that they stop 'hijacking" Islam, stop killing in the name of Allah, stopping suicide bombings, honor killings etc etc etc...then maybe we'll all stop blaming Islam.
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Re: Losing Muslim hearts and minds
« Reply #44 on: June 27, 2007, 10:27:43 AM »
When an important figure in the Islamic community..one that these wack jobs and the common folks will listen too..stands up and demands that the terrorists stop, demand that they stop 'hijacking" Islam, stop killing in the name of Allah, stopping suicide bombings, honor killings etc etc etc...then maybe we'll all stop blaming Islam.

islam does not have a pope..

each individual is left to interpret the koran in his/her own way..

yeesh...and thats the basics..

and if you are blaming islam..then STOP BEING A HYPOCRITE AND BUYING YOUR OIL FROM THE MUSLIMS IF YA HATE EM SO MUCH, AND CONTINUE BUYING FROM EM THEN,  YOU R ENABLING TERRORISTS ...RIGHT???...



o wait..you cant..

i hate hypocrites..today  right NOW the car you drive is possible cause of some muslim fuckface..  ;)

i'm an athiest...but i HATE hypocrites..
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Re: Losing Muslim hearts and minds
« Reply #45 on: June 27, 2007, 10:35:02 AM »

prove me wrong ..simple..

you r fat..n ugly..

prove me wrong..simple..

you cant  ;D

You do this with every because you can't really argue the point at hand.

It does not matter what he looks like, or who supposedly fucked his girl.

You just don't want to be critical of something practiced by your parents.. You keep drawing comparisons with christianity and what not, and also resort to constant ad hominem attacks.

If you have nothing to bring to the debate, then don't post.

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Re: Losing Muslim hearts and minds
« Reply #46 on: June 27, 2007, 10:35:10 AM »
Its possible because they happen to live there..the oil is pumped by Brits/Americans etc etc etc.....dumb argument froma smart kid. If they did have  supreme Imam maybe we could get somewhere but whatever. How about a well respected one..nobody has stepped up.
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Re: Losing Muslim hearts and minds
« Reply #47 on: June 27, 2007, 10:39:36 AM »
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You just don't want to be critical of something practiced by your parents..

well according to him your parents are low life terrorists also that need be killed..

 ;)


i wonder why ya dont stand up for em...

you must hate em i guess..

camel do you hate your parents?  i mean ya do post hatefull things asgainst muslims...soo i put 2 and 2 together..

i guess you hate your parents.

yes?  i expect an answer..
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Re: Losing Muslim hearts and minds
« Reply #48 on: June 27, 2007, 10:42:15 AM »
No I don't.

I don't believe in Islam's teachings.

But why do you keep resorting to shifting the topic to someone's personal life? What does it matter what he looks like, or what I look like?

Like I said before, if you are gonna keep resorting to attacking someone and their family, then please do us all a favor and don't engage in the debates.

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Re: Losing Muslim hearts and minds
« Reply #49 on: June 27, 2007, 10:42:33 AM »
Its possible because they happen to live there..the oil is pumped by Brits/Americans etc etc etc.....dumb argument froma smart kid. If they did have  supreme Imam maybe we could get somewhere but whatever. How about a well respected one..nobody has stepped up.

they dont want the brits and americans there..

mon ami...i rebel when rebelion is due..you cant pick and choose and then expect soeone else not to pick n choose...thats hypocritical..

its not a dumb argument my man..its like a lot of people seem to hate muslims but prez bush is good friends with the osama family..yet these repbs like bush..

see where i'm getting at..

its all about $...
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