yeah joe was happy to have jay come train and pose...............since no mr. O since arnold has been at muscle beach.................ja y even did some guest poses, his chest was more full and he was very hard, had his waist and abs slim, although he has the mass monster size, he seemed to have been working on his conditioning. Like I said, I was impressed with jay. I got over to the beach early, and talked to joe, and he said jay cutler was coming out, I have a foot injury, result of kicking a brick wall, and wasnt able to train, but I saw jay do some guest posing, as he looked very good.