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Marion Jones Admits the Obvious
« on: June 25, 2007, 09:12:50 AM »
I guess this cheater didn't prosper . . .

Marion Jones running out of money
June 25, 2007

Track and field
Seven years after winning a women's record five Olympic track and field medals and snagging multimillion-dollar endorsement deals, Marion Jones is almost broke. The sprinter is heavily in debt, fighting off court judgments, and down to a bank balance of about $2,000, according to recent court records reviewed by the Los Angeles Times. Last year a bank foreclosed on her $2.5 million mansion in an area of Chapel Hill, N.C., where Michael Jordan was a neighbor. She was also forced to sell two other properties, including her mother's house, to raise money. Jones's financial woes were revealed in a 168-page deposition in a breach-of-contract suit she filed in Dallas against veteran track coach Dan Pfaff. Pfaff countersued and won a judgment against Jones for about $240,000 in unpaid training fees and legal expenses. Legal bills have plagued Jones since 2003, when suspicions of drug use emerged and she was linked to the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative after a federal raid. Last year, a Jones urine sample tested positive for the performance-enhancing drug EPO. Although she was cleared when a backup sample tested negative, she missed at least five major international meets, forfeiting an estimated $300,000 in appearance and performance fees.

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Re: Marion Jones running out of money
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2007, 01:29:35 PM »
The fact that her ex husband ratted he out about her steriod usage is what has done this to her. She has to fly under radar , its sad really. That the Puritian thinking of Americans that top athletes don't use steriods, especially women to compete at such high levels  is utterly rediculous. SHe has basically been blacklisted due to the media's ignorance of sports enhancement drugs

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Re: Marion Jones running out of money
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2007, 01:38:11 PM »

She spent *way* too much money on legal defense when all she had to do was to just drop out of the scene and raise her kid quietly in NC, where rising property values would've provided her with more than enough equity and rental income to live out her days in peace.

Then, when the time is right, she'd be able to publish her tell-all autobiography, which would be worth a few million to her.

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Re: Marion Jones running out of money
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2007, 03:10:58 PM »
it's a damn shame when you have to sell your moms house you bought for her when you had millions.

I'd love to be a fly on that wall when she told her moms she'd lost everything and moms would need to find a new place to live.

wow.  :'(

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Re: Marion Jones running out of money
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2007, 12:35:11 PM »
next stop Playboy!! though i doubt Heffner wants her in it..so then she'll be shopped to penthouse or some other "Gentlemen's Mag" ::) to try and get a lil money..maybe she'll even get a reality tv show later on showing her training for the next olympics or something...i mean hell if SCOTT"FREAKING"BAIO  can get a show then anyone can... ;D
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Re: Marion Jones running out of money
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2007, 05:19:06 AM »
Unfortunate, even though she seems obnoxious.

More importantly, why hasn't bum mentioned kobe yet?

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Re: Marion Jones Admits the Obvious
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2007, 02:50:08 PM »
Not surprised.

Posted at 11:14 a.m., Thursday, October 4, 2007

Marion Jones says she used steroids before Games

By Amy Shipley
The Washington Post

WASHINGTON — Track star Marion Jones has acknowledged using steroids as she prepared for the 2000 Summer Games in Sydney and plans to plead guilty tomorrow in New York to two counts of lying to federal agents about her drug use and an unrelated financial matter, according to a letter Jones sent to close family and friends.
Jones, who won five medals at the Sydney Olympics, said she took the steroid known as "the clear" for two years beginning in 1999, according to the letter, which was read to The Washington Post by a person who had been given a copy of it. A person familiar with Jones's legal situation who requested anonymity confirmed the relevant facts that were described in the letter.

Jones said her former coach, Trevor Graham, gave her the substance, telling her it was the nutritional supplement flaxseed oil and said she should take it by putting two drops under her tongue. Graham, contacted by telephone today, said he had no comment.

Jones's admissions could cost her the three gold and two bronze medals she won in Sydney. In December 2004, the International Olympic Committee opened an investigation into allegations surrounding performance-enhancing drug use by Jones, once considered the greatest female athlete in the world.

In the past, Jones has vehemently denied using steroids or any performance-enhancing drugs.

Jones said she "trusted (Graham) and never thought for one second" she was using a performance-enhancing drug until after she left Graham's Raleigh, N.C.-based training camp at the end of 2002. "Red flags should have been raised when he told me not to tell anyone about" the supplement program, she said in the letter. She also said she noticed changes in how her body felt and how she was able to recover from workouts.

The clear, also known as THG, is a powerful steroid that was found to be at the center of the performance-enhancing drugs scandal known as Balco. More than a dozen track and field athletes have faced punishments for their use of the clear, which drug-testing authorities could not detect until Graham sent a sample of it to the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency in 2003.

Baseball players Gary Sheffield and Jason Giambi admitted during grand jury testimony to using the clear, according to the San Francisco Chronicle. Barry Bonds also admitted using a substance that he had been told by his personal trainer was flaxseed oil, the Chronicle reported.

The federal probe surrounding Balco, a nutritional supplements company based in Burliname, Calif., has resulted in five criminal convictions. Jones's coach, Graham, was indicted last November on three counts of lying to federal agents connected to the investigation. He has pled not guilty and his trial is scheduled for November.

The head of Balco, Victor Conte, has repeatedly and publicly accused Jones of using drugs.

Jones, who recently married former sprinter Obadele Thompson, said in her letter she planned to fly from her home in Austin, Texas, and meet her mother in New York to enter the plea. She said she faced up to six months in jail and would be sentenced in three months. Federal sentencing guidelines call for a maximum of five years in prison for one count of lying to federal agents.

"I want to apologize for all of this," she said, according to the person reading the letter, who spoke on condition of anonymity. "I am sorry for disappointing you all in so many ways."

Reached at their Austin home, Thompson declined comment on the letter, portions of which were read to him, saying "the process has to go through before you can make any comments ... I'm sure at the appropriate time, all necessary comments will be made." He did not dispute the contents of the letter.

When questioned in 2003 by federal agents investigating Balco, Jones said she lied about using the clear even though agents presented her with a sample of the substance and she immediately recognized it as what she had taken at Graham's behest, according to the letter. The letter said she lied because she panicked and wanted to protect herself and her coach.

Jones also said in the letter that she lied about a $25,000 check given to her by track athlete Tim Montgomery, the father of her young son, who pleaded guilty in New York this year for his part in a multimillion-dollar bank fraud and money-laundering scheme.

Jones said she told investigators she knew nothing about the deposit, even though Montgomery told her it was from the 2005 sale of a refurbished vehicle and was partial payment for $50,000 she had loaned him.

"Once again, I panicked," she wrote. "I did not want my name associated with this mess. I wanted to stay as far away as possible."
 
http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2007/Oct/04/br/br6508137429.html

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Re: Marion Jones Admits the Obvious
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2007, 02:57:27 PM »
The fact they are  giving her so much shit for what every track and field star is doing shows the puritanical hypocrisy of Americans. Somehow Americans think that if you eat your Wheaties that you'll be a genetic freak and as fast and as strong as those pro athletes. It doesn't happen like that.

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Re: Marion Jones Admits the Obvious
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2007, 03:21:50 PM »
I'll never forget when she came out SO HARD to clear her name when out of all of the gear heads...she was married/in relations with 2 admitted balco abusers whom also were track stars.

My ? is why break yourself to cover a lie only to go back on that lie later on. Now your a$$ is broke.

I would have rode that out, admitted it, paid a fine or two and pocketed the GREEN. 

Real talk here.

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Re: Marion Jones Admits the Obvious
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2007, 03:25:25 PM »

that's a sad story. She wasn't my favorite athlete, but it's still sad.

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Re: Marion Jones Admits the Obvious
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2007, 03:53:29 PM »
I don't feel sorry for her.  She cheated and got caught.  I still remember her press conference after the Conte allegations.  I never bought her righteous indignation. 

She's going to lose her medals. 

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Re: Marion Jones Admits the Obvious
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2007, 03:54:41 PM »

it's sad that she's lost her house, but it was her choice . . .

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Re: Marion Jones Admits the Obvious
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2007, 03:59:04 PM »
I still remember her press conference after the Conte allegations. 

I remember it like it was yesterday. She made it very clear she didn't do sh*t, didn't need to do sh*t and was very well prepared to take anybody to court that wanted to slander her name and associate it with the steroid scandal.

......I was like ...yep...she on that sh*t....LOL. Probably was at that press conference...lol.  ;D

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Re: Marion Jones Admits the Obvious
« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2007, 04:09:36 PM »
I remember it like it was yesterday. She made it very clear she didn't do sh*t, didn't need to do sh*t and was very well prepared to take anybody to court that wanted to slander her name and associate it with the steroid scandal.

......I was like ...yep...she on that sh*t....LOL. Probably was at that press conference...lol.  ;D

 :)  Yep. 

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Re: Marion Jones Admits the Obvious
« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2007, 05:06:19 AM »
I don't feel sorry for her.  She cheated and got caught.  I still remember her press conference after the Conte allegations.  I never bought her righteous indignation. 

She's going to lose her medals. 

They all "cheat", it is the American media and perception that our athletes natural or to get to that point by being natural. The American public needs to wake the hell up. Funny how they focus a lot of attention her, but few football players are shined in the lime light for using "enhancements"

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Re: Marion Jones Admits the Obvious
« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2007, 08:39:48 AM »
I remember it like it was yesterday. She made it very clear she didn't do sh*t, didn't need to do sh*t and was very well prepared to take anybody to court that wanted to slander her name and associate it with the steroid scandal.

......I was like ...yep...she on that sh*t....LOL. Probably was at that press conference...lol.  ;D

Man, i remember watching that and had alittle thought that she may be telling the truth....Guess not

She could do Hustler where she is screwing one of her Ex's and there could be needles and the "The Clear" all around them.
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Re: Marion Jones Admits the Obvious
« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2007, 10:41:18 AM »
They all "cheat", it is the American media and perception that our athletes natural or to get to that point by being natural. The American public needs to wake the hell up. Funny how they focus a lot of attention her, but few football players are shined in the lime light for using "enhancements"

Yes cheating is rampant.  And yes I'm a hypocrite for continuing to follow and cheer for athletes on my favorite teams who use drugs. 

But bottom line is she broke the rules and got caught.  I don't have a problem with the media jumping on any athlete who gets caught cheating. 

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Re: Marion Jones Admits the Obvious
« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2007, 12:17:20 PM »
Yes cheating is rampant.  And yes I'm a hypocrite for continuing to follow and cheer for athletes on my favorite teams who use drugs. 

But bottom line is she broke the rules and got caught.  I don't have a problem with the media jumping on any athlete who gets caught cheating. 

So what is an athlete to do. Their Euro counterparts are cheating as well, just watch them rack up all the the glory and medals.  The US is still very competitive when it comes to international sports (not as much when it comes to pro US sports)

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Re: Marion Jones Admits the Obvious
« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2007, 12:27:36 PM »
So what is an athlete to do. Their Euro counterparts are cheating as well, just watch them rack up all the the glory and medals.  The US is still very competitive when it comes to international sports (not as much when it comes to pro US sports)

Easy.  Don't cheat.  If you (referring to the athletes, not you) cheat, don't get caught.  If you get caught, don't cry about the fact you broke rules to try and stay competitive.   

I think the dumbest athletes in pro sports are NFL players who turn up hot during steroid testing.  Testing happens about once a year and unless you're already in the substance abuse program, you know when it's coming.  That's why only about 2 guys a year get caught.  The ones that do are just dumb. 

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Re: Marion Jones Admits the Obvious
« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2007, 01:16:21 PM »
Man, i remember watching that and had alittle thought that she may be telling the truth....Guess not

She could do Hustler where she is screwing one of her Ex's and there could be needles and the "The Clear" all around them.

She will do some time for lying to the feds like that. Go into hibernation for another year or so......


....she'll end up on celebrity VH1 house of has-beens or something. Might end up in congress or become a politician or something. Never know.

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Re: Marion Jones Admits the Obvious
« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2007, 03:23:55 PM »
I find this kind of commentary pretty absurd.  No one who follows the sport should have been under the illusion that she was clean.

Feeling Betrayed by Marion Jones
Friday, Oct. 05, 2007 By SEAN GREGORY  Marion Jones after winning the 100m at the Sydney Olympic Games in 2000.
Arne Dedert / AFP / Getty Images

You wanted to believe her. She made you believe. She was good like that. Marion Jones, TIME cover girl, winner of five medals — three gold — at the 2000 Sydney Olympics, and now an admitted steroid user, sat in a sweltering press tent at the 2004 U.S. Olympic Track and Field trials in Sacramento, and put on an Oscar-worthy show.

All week during those trials, she had refused to acknowledge the press, and thus her fans, that same adoring public that made her an Olympic icon. The BALCO investigation had uncovered evidence that Jones had used performance-enhancing drugs, and she refused to take the heat. Finally, after she pulled out of the 200-meter semifinals, citing fatigue, Queen Marion was holding court in the tent. Reporters dropped their coverage of the races, of those less famous athletes whose Olympic dreams were hanging in the balance, and sprinted to Jones like lap dogs. She smiled, charmed, even casually addressed a few of those reporters by their first name. She showed no signs that her steroid denials, which we now know were flat-out lies, were causing any stress. She reminded us that she never failed a drug test. "The athletes who have not tested positive have been dragged through the mud," she said. I gave her the benefit of the doubt. I was not alone. "Frankly, I'm impressed," wrote New York Times sports columnist William C. Rhoden the next day.

I was new to the track beat that summer, and quickly fell in love with the sport — the relay strategies, the tactics of the 100-meter dash versus the distance races, the oddball field sports — pole vault! Hammer-throw! I got to know Justin Gatlin at those trials, and smiled in disbelief when he won the 100-meter sprint in Athens. Just 22 years old, charismatic, and most importantly, clean. Or so I thought. Two years later, Gatlin was busted for doping, and he is now serving an eight-year ban. And now Jones is expected to plead guilty to lying to federal agents about her use of performance-enhancing drugs.

So forget about track and field. Jones and Gatlin have taken the sport down. Maybe we should have lost faith back in '88, when Ben Johnson got stripped of his medal in Seoul. Think about it — Johnson, Jones, Gatlin — three Olympic champs, convicted cheaters. Compared to track and field, baseball's steroid struggles seem bush league.

Leading up to the 2008 Beijing Summer Games, U.S.A. Track and Field will pump up the next generation of stars, and tell us how they'll put all this sorry history behind us. Well, I heard that storyline back in 2004; how, with good conscience, can I buy it again? The world's two top sprinters, Tyson Gay of the United States and Asafa Powell, the 100-meter world record holder from Jamaica, have a nice little rivalry, and you'll hear about it ad nauseam in the months before the '08 games. But it's hard for me to get too excited about it. Sure, Gay and Powell never failed drug tests, and no one has accused them of using steroids. But Marion Jones passed all those tests when she was using back in 2000, which makes testing seem like a joke. In today's track world, as far as I'm concerned, you're practically guilty until proven innocent, and really, how can you prove you're innocent?

I guess you could give Jones a smidgen of credit for finally coming clean. As Jason Giambi of the New York Yankees has proven, those who apologize for using steroids will eventually be forgiven. But even now, it seems, Jones is trying to have it both ways, resorting to the Barry Bonds defense that she didn't know the flaxseed oil her coach was giving her was actually the steroid known as "the clear." Jones is too smart for that, and given all her lies of the past, it's not as if we have any reason to believe her.

So maybe she'll set up another charm offensive, to tell us how she lied because she was scared, how in a way she's a victim of track and field's sordid culture of steroids and suspicion. Like all her performances, I'm sure it will be a doozy, but I, for one, will be skipping that one.

 http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1668849,00.html