Author Topic: Bodybuilders are not atheletes (Read 5580 times)

davidpaul · « **Reply #25 on:** June 25, 2007, 05:32:51 PM »

Quote from: ARMZ on June 25, 2007, 05:28:09 PM

You don't know me very well do you?

Are you Jan Zelezny?

onlyme · « **Reply #26 on:** June 25, 2007, 05:33:24 PM »

Quote from: Earl1972 on June 25, 2007, 04:15:26 PM

judges can decide the winner

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Devon97 · « **Reply #27 on:** June 25, 2007, 05:36:28 PM »

Quote from: Earl1972 on June 25, 2007, 04:55:08 PM

sports lists are biased toward the most popular sports

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Earl, I know a girl who followed a cutting diet, took var , followed a competition weight/cardio regimine similar to that of a Figure competitor....She placed 2nd in a state level Hawaiian Tropic show in Miami. Is she an athlete?

onlyme · « **Reply #28 on:** June 25, 2007, 05:39:00 PM »

Working out to achieve a goal is athletic in a sense. But bodybuilders do nothing to exhibit any sort of athleticism. They are not athletes. If working out made a person an athlete, then everyone who works out is an athlete. Boxing exhibits everything a sport is. The girls who compete i the Miss America workout too. Then they go show off what they have. Same with BB. The beauty pagents are even harder becasue they have to show a skill and answer questions. BB you do nothing but stand on stage and make muscles.

Earl1972 · « **Reply #29 on:** June 25, 2007, 10:37:45 PM »

Quote from: onlyme on June 25, 2007, 05:32:32 PM

hahaha yea Boxing is one of the ultimate sports and describes it to a tee. Earl you forgot to put the smiley face after thsi remark to show us you are joking. You are joking right

he basically said that if judges are needed than it isn't a sport

with his logic boxing isn't a sport

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Earl1972 · « **Reply #30 on:** June 25, 2007, 10:38:52 PM »

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you are fat,ugly,and stupid

but hey you've met more celebrities than me

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Earl1972 · « **Reply #31 on:** June 25, 2007, 10:39:46 PM »

Quote from: Devon97 on June 25, 2007, 05:36:28 PM

Earl, I know a girl who followed a cutting diet, took var , followed a competition weight/cardio regimine similar to that of a Figure competitor....She placed 2nd in a state level Hawaiian Tropic show in Miami. Is she an athlete?

no because there was no physical exertion involved in the competition

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onlyme · « **Reply #32 on:** June 25, 2007, 10:51:03 PM »

Quote from: Earl1972 on June 25, 2007, 10:39:46 PM

no because there was no physical exertion involved in the competition

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God knows all that 90 seconds of flexing muscles is the hardest thing to do. Opps I just flexed my asshole. I am a bodybuilder yeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaa

benchthis · « **Reply #33 on:** June 25, 2007, 10:53:28 PM »

there not athletes a regular person who goes to the gym to stay in shape isnt a athlete either the diffrence between a casual gym member and a bodybuilder is bodybuilders take large amounts of drugs, they starve themselfs to obtain single digit fat %, with a few exceptions dont have jobs, many do g4p, all they really do is stand infront of a few people in a thong and flex $:-\$ there not athletes

its not a sport its a glorified beauty pagent

HowieW · « **Reply #34 on:** June 25, 2007, 11:27:07 PM »

Quote from: irongrip400 on June 25, 2007, 03:20:03 PM

And sports center just proved it. They showed the top ten most dominant in their sports, and Ronnie/Dorian nor Arnold were mentioned. They even had Kobyashi on the list.

yeah and ESPN also features the "sport" of poker

gordiano · « **Reply #35 on:** June 25, 2007, 11:28:29 PM »

Quote from: onlyme on June 25, 2007, 10:51:03 PM

God knows all that 90 seconds of flexing muscles is the hardest thing to do. Opps I just flexed my asshole. I am a bodybuilder yeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaa

HAHNAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA~!!!!!!!!!!

gatomjp · « **Reply #36 on:** June 26, 2007, 06:30:14 AM »

Quote from: Earl1972 on June 25, 2007, 10:39:46 PM

no because there was no physical exertion involved in the competition

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BB is an art form in which most of the physical exertion is "invisible" (i.e. done beforehand) and only the results of that exertion are on display. For that reason it is unique, but I would agree it is not a sport.

nder98 · « **Reply #37 on:** June 26, 2007, 06:35:36 AM »

Quote from: Andre Nickatina on June 25, 2007, 04:03:19 PM

Bodybuilding in no way is a sport. You stand on stage for judges.

Annd umm what about the months of dieting and hours training? That doesnt count for anything?

oh yeah i forgot you just stand in front of judges... Dumbass...

onlyme · « **Reply #38 on:** June 26, 2007, 10:55:06 AM »

Quote from: nder98 on June 26, 2007, 06:35:36 AM

Annd umm what about the months of dieting and hours training? That doesnt count for anything? oh yeah i forgot you just stand in front of judges... Dumbass...

There are millions of people who diet and train. Does that make it a sport? BB is a pageant. It is exactly like a beauty contest except the guys are ugly and have big muscles. In some instances they are ugly and look like shit.

ARMZ · « **Reply #39 on:** June 26, 2007, 11:17:46 AM »

Is it me or does it seem the guys that can never make it as a bodybuilder in this thread knock bodybuilding as a sport?

onlyme · « **Reply #40 on:** June 26, 2007, 11:27:27 AM »

Quote from: ARMZ on June 26, 2007, 11:17:46 AM

Is it me or does it seem the guys that can never make it as a bodybuilder in this thread knock bodybuilding as a sport?

Better answer is do you see how the competitor try to justify what they do as sport and not as a pagaent or exhibition. I spent as many hours in the gym if not more than bodybuilders. I didn't like to diet. I like to eat. Joe Good used to bug the shit out of me to compete in BB and powerlifting at the same time. I tried the diet thing for about a year. I did pretty good as long as I was with Tony Pearson or Ken Waller or ROn Depolito or the other guys when I went out to eat. But when I got home it was a little different. I am not knocking bodybuilding. I have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars and thousands of hours promoting and help promoting BB. I have many friends and acquaintances who are bodybuilders. I make my living off the gym business. But, I do not like the way BB is and has been going and I don't like the narrow-mindlessness of the bodybuilders. They do not want to help BB overall. They are in it just for themselves. If they weren't then they would try to improve it. But they are happy with the way the are treated and that has made BB embarrassing and the reason why it is not accepted in the public eye and more mainstream.

hifrommike · « **Reply #41 on:** June 26, 2007, 11:34:07 AM »

Technically, bodybuilding is a business. For the NPC & other sanctioning amateur organizations, it's nonprofit. For the IFBB, it is a for-profit enterprise, mainly benefiting the IFBB itself.

The act of posing onstage in front of spectators for a ranking is competition, & is probably closest to performance art, although it is held to tight limits on how to move & self-present.

If you consider a sport to be what is reported on generally as a sport, then bodybuilding unquestionably is not one.

onlyme · « **Reply #42 on:** June 26, 2007, 12:01:09 PM »

Whats really supports the "non sport" classification of BB is the fact that NO pros come on here to defend it by saying it is. They know it is a competition based on looks. Skill is not a factor at all. And if you saying posing is a skill, then why doesn't the guy who wins the Best Poser award always wins the show.

ARMZ · « **Reply #43 on:** June 26, 2007, 12:03:33 PM »

Our lord Arnold was a pro and he says it's the greatest sport..

Devon97 · « **Reply #44 on:** June 26, 2007, 12:57:13 PM »

Quote from: Earl1972 on June 25, 2007, 10:39:46 PM

no because there was no physical exertion involved in the competition

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There was just as much physical exertion as there would be in a figure show... more actually as they must stand on stage longer.

reguarding bbing... so flexing your muscles for a few minutes makes you an athlete?

Devon97 · « **Reply #45 on:** June 26, 2007, 01:00:13 PM »

Quote from: nder98 on June 26, 2007, 06:35:36 AM

Annd umm what about the months of dieting and hours training? That doesnt count for anything? oh yeah i forgot you just stand in front of judges... Dumbass...

True, it does take dicipline to eat all those meals and do all that sleeping oh, and jumpping out of Birthday cakes at gay b-day parties is very demanding!
Still though , the EVENT itself ( the show) does not constitute one to bare the lable " Athlete"

Devon97 · « **Reply #46 on:** June 26, 2007, 01:04:17 PM »

Quote from: ARMZ on June 26, 2007, 11:17:46 AM

Is it me or does it seem the guys that can never make it as a bodybuilder in this thread knock bodybuilding as a sport?

You have it backwards. Its the guy who never had success at team sports who fights so badly to be accepted as an athlete.
Who in their right mind would waste all the money on Drugs, travel costs , supps, tan oil, entry fees to "prove their worth" just to be called an "athlete"
*** BTW, Im not talking about little league or pee-wee, Im talking success at the collegiate lever or higher.

ARMZ · « **Reply #47 on:** June 26, 2007, 01:15:30 PM »

Quote from: Devon97 on June 26, 2007, 01:04:17 PM

You have it backwards. Its the guy who never had success at team sports who fights so badly to be accepted as an athlete.
Who in their right mind would waste all the money on Drugs, travel costs , supps, tan oil, entry fees to "prove their worth" just to be called an "athlete"
*** BTW, Im not talking about little league or pee-wee, Im talking success at the collegiate lever or higher.

I find every sport I've done easy to be the best.. I don't need to get into how good I was or what sports, but trust me, bodybuilding is the hardest by far..

Earl1972 · « **Reply #48 on:** June 26, 2007, 04:47:08 PM »

Quote from: onlyme on June 25, 2007, 10:51:03 PM

God knows all that 90 seconds of flexing muscles is the hardest thing to do. Opps I just flexed my asshole. I am a bodybuilder yeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaa

it's more strenuous than swinging a golf club

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Earl1972 · « **Reply #49 on:** June 26, 2007, 04:49:38 PM »

Quote from: Devon97 on June 26, 2007, 12:57:13 PM

There was just as much physical exertion as there would be in a figure show... more actually as they must stand on stage longer.

reguarding bbing... so flexing your muscles for a few minutes makes you an athlete?

standing is not physical exertion

according to the definition of the word "sport" it does

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