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[tweeter]

this is an odd post for some reason....sounds fishy coming from a guy who basically gave up on the "adonis principles" and all.......strange.

I still follow the basic ideas of guys like TA and Daddywaddy. I have just modified it and don't use an exact formula.

[The True Adonis]

Do you ever cook the tomatoes in the oven or do you just eat them raw?

Ahh I do both.

I even stuff the tomatoes with other vegetables and onions and add some balsamic vinegar. Very good stuff.

Grape Tomatoes also make great snacks.

[shiftedShapes]

translation: "i am a complete failure in bodybuilding and i'll take whatever crumbs i can get."

that's fine but just because you and the rest of the losers think that no one can be muscular and weigh more than 200lbs unless they are on steroids, that doesn't mean it is true.

i come from a boxing and mma background (i know, instant self owning) so i'm not very good at bbing history, but there was a world hw boxing champion in the 1890s named jim jeffries. now, considering that this guy did a ton of cardio, very little specific bbing, zero steroids (testosterone wasn't isolated until 1937) and fought 40 round bouts, this guy was a cut up (yes, he had abs, veins, definition, the lot) 220lbs at around 6'0 (please feel free to look him up). he was probably less than that because he was definitely significantly shorter than jack johnson when they fought and johnson was 6'1".

this business of the anorexic crew around here thinking that bbing is about weighing a fairly lean 150lbs almost brings tears to my eyes it's so funny...hahahahahihihmmm mm...not really. . it's actually quite disturbing and a little tragic.

so to prove that 200lbs lean is a reasonable goal for a natural you cite ONE PERSON from the 19th century, and you don't even provide pics.  Brilliant rebuttal.

[The_Leafy_Bug]

this is an odd post for some reason....sounds fishy coming from a guy who basically gave up on the "adonis principles" and all.......strange.

Not really... he just dieted down and realized what we said is true. Notice most of the people arguing with us have never even tried or or have never dieted down before in their lifes.

[The True Adonis]

translation: "i am a complete failure in bodybuilding and i'll take whatever crumbs i can get."

that's fine but just because you and the rest of the losers think that no one can be muscular and weigh more than 200lbs unless they are on steroids, that doesn't mean it is true.

i come from a boxing and mma background (i know, instant self owning) so i'm not very good at bbing history, but there was a world hw boxing champion in the 1890s named jim jeffries. now, considering that this guy did a ton of cardio, very little specific bbing, zero steroids (testosterone wasn't isolated until 1937) and fought 40 round bouts, this guy was a cut up (yes, he had abs, veins, definition, the lot) 220lbs at around 6'0 (please feel free to look him up). he was probably less than that because he was definitely significantly shorter than jack johnson when they fought and johnson was 6'1".

this business of the anorexic crew around here thinking that bbing is about weighing a fairly lean 150lbs almost brings tears to my eyes it's so funny...hahahahahihihmmm mm...not really. . it's actually quite disturbing and a little tragic.

Yah this Jim Jeffries sure was a beast. 

He would be well under 200 lbs if he dieted down.

[shiftedShapes]

so to prove that 200lbs lean is a reasonable goal for a natural you cite ONE PERSON from the 19th century, and you don't even provide pics.  Brilliant rebuttal.

oh I forgot to mention it but my little brother who is 12 benches 500lbs for reps at a BW of 125lbs.  Also this one guy from my highscool was 300lbs ripped and was only on creatine

[The_Leafy_Bug]

so to prove that 200lbs lean is a reasonable goal for a natural you cite ONE PERSON from the 19th century, and you don't even provide pics.  Brilliant rebuttal.

aww common shifted.... give him a chance. Atleast give him from the 12th century till present.

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[Man of Steel]

Personally, I could care less what anyone else is doing in the gym.   

[The True Adonis]

OH YES,

Watch the Massive  Jim Jeffries train for a fight.

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[shiftedShapes]

Yah this Jim Jeffries sure was a beast. 

He would be well under 200 lbs if he dieted down.

probably under 165lbs

[shiftedShapes]

probably under 165lbs

[Voice of Doom]

OH YES,

Watch the Massive   Jim Jeffries train for a fight.

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He's bigger than you.

[Man of Steel]

This thread crowded with embittered naturals is classic and pathetic.   Naturals even hate others naturals that aren't "super lean" and live exactly like they do.    Fellas, get over yourselves.....you live within your heads yet preach to the world.   Lemme give you some sound advice:   You can't change a grown adult so don't bother trying.   You can show an adult charts/graphs, volumes of scientific journals in support of this or that and unless that adult takes it upon him/herself to engage in some personal trial and error not a damn thing will change.   A devout empiricist like shiftedShapes should know this already.


Then again, some folks don't mind.....here it comes...............BODY FAT!  (All the naturals with 8% bf scream like teenage girls at a Justin Timberlake concert)

[BEAST 8692]

nah, my point was that he's the only physique that i can come up with that well and truly debunks your theory that anyone bigger than 200lbs lean can't be natural.

the point is that he was in his prime in the 1890s so you can't use the steroid excuse.

particular emphasis should be made to the fact that this man did NO bbing training whatsoever and, in fact, was a cardio machine but, nevertheless he was 220lbs lean at 6' (if that).

obviously someone like steve reeves would be a better example, but he WAS a bber and his prime (1940s) after steroids were isolated and used.

[Matt C]

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A NATURAL MASS MONSTER.  If you want to be a freak get on steroids, but if you're going to stay natural and you want to look like a BBer your only hope is to cultivate an aesthetic physique with dramatic taper.

THIS MEANS ENDING YOUR BULKING AND REDUCING YOUR CALORIES BELOW MAINTENANCE LEVELS UNTIL YOU SHED YOUR HUGE STORES OF INTRA ABDOMINAL FAT.

YOU DONT NEED SUPPLEMENTS TO DO THIS, YOU JUST NEED TO STOP EATING SO DAMN MUCH.

What if we want to be as strong as possible?

[shiftedShapes]

This thread crowded with embittered naturals is classic and pathetic.   Naturals even hate others naturals that aren't "super lean" and live exactly like they do.    Fellas, get over yourselves.....you live within your heads yet preach to the world.   Lemme give you some sound advice:   You can't change a grown adult so don't bother trying.   You can show an adult charts/graphs, volumes of scientific journals in support of this or that and unless that adult takes it upon him/herself to engage in some personal trial and error not a damn thing will change.   A devout empiricist like shiftedShapes should know this already.


Then again, some folks don't mind.....here it comes...............BODY FAT!  (All the naturals with 8% bf scream like teenage girls at a Justin Timberlake concert)

Yes I know, it's really hard to get anyone to change, but I enjoy arguing for its own sake so my posting isn't wasted effort even if no one is convinced.

[shiftedShapes]

What if we want to be as strong as possible?

how do you define strength?

[The_Leafy_Bug]

This thread crowded with embittered naturals is classic and pathetic.   Naturals even hate others naturals that aren't "super lean" and live exactly like they do.    Fellas, get over yourselves.....you live within your heads yet preach to the world.   Lemme give you some sound advice:   You can't change a grown adult so don't bother trying.   You can show an adult charts/graphs, volumes of scientific journals in support of this or that and unless that adult takes it upon him/herself to engage in some personal trial and error not a damn thing will change.   A devout empiricist like shiftedShapes should know this already.


Then again, some folks don't mind.....here it comes...............BODY FAT!  (All the naturals with 8% bf scream like teenage girls at a Justin Timberlake concert)

This is true to an extent. The older the worse it is. I make a movement for mass genocide of all perma bulkers, evangelical christians, and republicans.

[Matt C]

how do you define strength?

In a powerlifting sense.

[The True Adonis]

nah, my point was that he's the only physique that i can come up with that well and truly debunks your theory that anyone bigger than 200lbs lean can't be natural.

the point is that he was in his prime in the 1890s so you can't use the steroid excuse.

particular emphasis should be made to the fact that this man did NO bbing training whatsoever and, in fact, was a cardio machine but, nevertheless he was 220lbs lean at 6' (if that).

obviously someone like steve reeves would be a better example, but he WAS a bber and his prime (1940s) after steroids were isolated and used.

Jim Jeffries was 6`2-6`3 numbnuts and not lean at 200 lbs.

[Matt C]

This is true to an extent. The older the worse it is. I make a movement for mass genocide of all perma bulkers, evangelical christians, and republicans.

Republicans are right about some things though, like their fiscal policy.  Just like democrats are right about their policies on abortion.  Like most everything in life, including the very topic discussed in this thread, the truth lies somewhere in between the extreme viewpoints.

[The_Leafy_Bug]

Republicans are right about some things though, like their fiscal policy.  Just like democrats are right about their policies on abortion.  Like most everything in life, including the very topic discussed in this thread, the truth lies somewhere in between the extreme viewpoints.

Matt C = the Great Compromiser.... he is indeed color blind.

[The True Adonis]

Republicans are right about some things though, like their fiscal policy.  Just like democrats are right about their policies on abortion.  Like most everything in life, including the very topic discussed in this thread, the truth lies somewhere in between the extreme viewpoints.

Fiscal Policy and Republicans being correct?  Give me a break.  You know nothing of our politics in the US.

[BEAST 8692]

probably under 165lbs

even in that pic, which wasn't during his prime, he is a lean 220+. if he wanted to, do you really think with specific bbing training he would not be over 200lbs ripped, which btw, not one of you wannabes has showed me, even at 150lbs which is very tragic indeed.