Why don't Pro bodybuilders exploit their knowledge (Huh Flex Wheeler)

[Parker]

 I was thinking how, Charles Glass trained Flex Wheeler and Chris Cormier, but also trains stars and a starlets and others with money. So does Lee Haney, Now Chris Cormier is training Britney Spears. Why don't others like Flex, instead of maybe doing a comeback, use his competitive bodybuilding resume and train Hollywood stars, or work for a Pro football athletic program or a high profile college athletic program. Hell, he knows more than most trainers, plus he can back up his talk.

Think about it,  a 4x Arnold Classic winner, a top 10 Olympia finisher, and multiple contest winner, sounds better on one's resume, than some dude who, yes has their degree, but barely has ever had 16 inch arms, let alone ever looked like Flex did.
 Flex could move the Las Vegas, Atlanta, or Miami, set up shop if he wanted to and possibly make a killing.

The same could go true for Shawn Ray, I remember reading that he would get invited to the watch the Green Bay practices, I think he could step it up further and be a trainer.

Why don't dudes like this use, their knowledge to further their lives after they have retired (Especially Flex) instead, of thinking about killing themselves.

[240 is Back]

IMO, a lot of trainers (the Coach comes to mind) know a lot more about training than a lot of top BBers do. 

They have great genes, they take good stuff, they pig out on good and bad foods.

If you applied their training and nutrition to a natural guy with average genes, you'd have an overtrained guy with a gut. 

That being said, a lot of them SHOULD translate their stage success into livings teaching bodybuilders to peak/prep, posing, presentation, etc.

[chainsaw]

Lou Ferrigno trained Michael Jackson.  If he could do that, others could and should do better than him.

BB's Want to be stars.  The center of attention.  Alot can't bow down to a more normal life.

[The Squadfather]

I was thinking how, Charles Glass trained Flex Wheeler and Chris Cormier, but also trains stars and a starlets and others with money. So does Lee Haney, Now Chris Cormier is training Britney Spears. Why don't others like Flex, instead of maybe doing a comeback, use his competitive bodybuilding resume and train Hollywood stars, or work for a Pro football athletic program or a high profile college athletic program. Hell, he knows more than most trainers, plus he can back up his talk.

Think about it,  a 4x Arnold Classic winner, a top 10 Olympia finisher, and multiple contest winner, sounds better on one's resume, than some dude who, yes has their degree, but barely has ever had 16 inch arms, let alone ever looked like Flex did.
 Flex could move the Las Vegas, Atlanta, or Miami, set up shop if he wanted to and possibly make a killing.

The same could go true for Shawn Ray, I remember reading that he would get invited to the watch the Green Bay practices, I think he could step it up further and be a trainer.

Why don't dudes like this use, their knowledge to further their lives after they have retired (Especially Flex) instead, of thinking about killing themselves.

epic reverse racism for not mentioning any white bodybuilders.

[The Coach]

This kinda reminds me of when Titus trained Vince Neill and proves my point at the same time, Titus was training Neil the same ol same bodybuilding way and through out a few things in his cupboard, no thought put into his program.

[corinth]

FLex Wheeler couldn't teach a dog to take a shit outside.

[The Squadfather]

"Flex" couldn't be a personal trainer, he'd have to lug around that big, bulky dialysis machine to his "clients" houses.

[WetWorker]

Maybe he could train toddlers how to peddle the big wheel up to 170

[stormshadow]

Squadfather?

If you applied their training and nutrition to a natural guy with average genes, you'd have an overtrained guy with a gut. 

[MCWAY]

epic reverse racism for not mentioning any white bodybuilders.

When you find a white bodybuilder that has won eight Olympias or four Arnold Classic titles, let us know.

[The Squadfather]

When you find a white bodybuilder that has won eight Olympias or four Arnold Classic titles, let us know.

Arnold won 7 Olympia's and the Classic wasn't around then.

[MCWAY]

I was thinking how, Charles Glass trained Flex Wheeler and Chris Cormier, but also trains stars and a starlets and others with money. So does Lee Haney, Now Chris Cormier is training Britney Spears. Why don't others like Flex, instead of maybe doing a comeback, use his competitive bodybuilding resume and train Hollywood stars, or work for a Pro football athletic program or a high profile college athletic program. Hell, he knows more than most trainers, plus he can back up his talk.

Think about it,  a 4x Arnold Classic winner, a top 10 Olympia finisher, and multiple contest winner, sounds better on one's resume, than some dude who, yes has their degree, but barely has ever had 16 inch arms, let alone ever looked like Flex did.
 Flex could move the Las Vegas, Atlanta, or Miami, set up shop if he wanted to and possibly make a killing.

Says who? Only someone interested in bodybuilding. The average person, looking for a trainer to help them get in shape or "tone up", could care less how big around a trainer's arm is. As long as he's somewhat lean and muscular and has some sort of credentials, he'll fit the bill.

The same could go true for Shawn Ray, I remember reading that he would get invited to the watch the Green Bay practices, I think he could step it up further and be a trainer.

Why don't dudes like this use, their knowledge to further their lives after they have retired (Especially Flex) instead, of thinking about killing themselves.
 
 

You assume that all (or most) bodybuilders are actually interested in getting someone else in shape. Wheeler may not be one of those guys. Plus, without the certification, and a steady stream of paying clientele, a personal trainer is little more than a maid in a weight room. For some reason, I don't think Flex wants to polish the mirrors, wipe the sweat of the benches, or put the dumbbells back on the rack and the plates on the weight tree.

[MCWAY]

Arnold won 7 Olympia's and the Classic wasn't around then.

I believe I said something to the tune of "When you find a white bodybuilder that has won EIGHT Olympias...." . Last time I checked, seven isn't equal to eight.

[The Squadfather]

I believe I said something to the tune of "When you find a white bodybuilder that has won EIGHT Olympias...." . Last time I checked, seven isn't equal to eight.

actually this thread was about Flex Wheeler and he never even won one.

[MCWAY]

actually this thread was about Flex Wheeler and he never even won one.

It wasn't about Arnold Schwarzenegger, either, except for the reference to the contest named after him.

And, my initial full statement was, "When you find a white bodybuilder that has won eight Olympias or FOUR Arnold Classic titles, let us know.

[Deadpool]

FLex Wheeler couldn't teach a dog to take a #### outside.

 

 

[marcus]

Would you really want someone training your athletes who doesn't even take his own health seriously? I can imagine it would look something like this. 

250 mg sustanon per day

250 mg testopan (enanthate) per day

1000 Deca Durabolin

Humatrope Growth Hormone, 6 units per, 6 times a day!! (Five times a week)

Long-Acting Insulin 100 units in the morning

Fast Acting insulin 25 units per meal (he is now to scared to eat without insulin)

Oxymethelone (whatever type he can get) 5x50mg tabs

300 mcg T3 per day

200-mcg clen (taken five days on 2 days off)

Nubain 5 ml a day, 3 times a week (supposedly to reduce the addictiveness)

Glucophage, taken before workouts, 4,000mg

He does do IGF-1 but he limits it to 4 week cycles as he believes that most of the research on this shows limited length of time of effectiveness. He will then follow this up with a 4-week break

80 mg fluxoetine (prozac) to help with the chemical imbalances and to assist him to keep stress from the drugs down

180 mg Ephedrine Hydrochloride, before workouts

4,000 mg Testosterone Propionate

2 vials of Masteron

2 vials of Parabolan

10 tabs of halotestin per day, before training

DNP for a week in weeks 6,4 and 2

Clenbuterol on alternating weeks at 400mcg per day

T3 400mcg per day

Nubain as above

Insulin as above

Growth Hormone 6 units 6 times per day

IGF-1 for the four weeks to week 2 at 100 mcg per day.

100mg of fluxoetine (prozac)

Ephedrine as above

I estimate the mg’s at somewhere around 6,500 to 7,000 mgs a week

[Parker]

Says who? Only someone interested in bodybuilding. The average person, looking for a trainer to help them get in shape or "tone up", could care less how big around a trainer's arm is. As long as he's somewhat lean and muscular and has some sort of credentials, he'll fit the bill.

You assume that all (or most) bodybuilders are actually interested in getting someone else in shape. Wheeler may not be one of those guys. Plus, without the certification, and a steady stream of paying clientele, a personal trainer is little more than a maid in a weight room. For some reason, I don't think Flex wants to polish the mirrors, wipe the sweat of the benches, or put the dumbbells back on the rack and the plates on the weight tree.

BUt Charles Class has (is ) doing it, I don't know Charles cred, even though he used to be a gymnast. I beleive Madonna Grimes has a successful dance studio in LA. Flex is heavily into martial arts, so I believe he has some discipline  . I was just thinking why can't Flex and others just tranfer their knowledge to the public or to other bodybuilders

I agree with the bold type. But if Lee Haney can do it, again I don't know if lee went and got a degree, so can Flex. ANd it allows he to at least stay in shape, but most importantly feed his family, without getting back on stage ( a big rumour).

Sometimes it is this lack of thinking outside the box, that hinders individuals from gaining more from life

[G o a t b o y]

"Flex" couldn't be a personal trainer, he'd have to lug around that big, bulky dialysis machine to his "clients" houses.

Yeah, really, who'd hire Flex?  I mean, if I had a spare kidney I was looking to take out for a walk, I'd go straight to the source and hire teh Chad.


Flex is too busy trying to chase down those ninjas who stole his bandwidth at last year's O anyway!

[Mike]

IMO, a lot of trainers (the Coach comes to mind) know a lot more about training than a lot of top BBers do. 

They have great genes, they take good stuff, they pig out on good and bad foods.

If you applied their training and nutrition to a natural guy with average genes, you'd have an overtrained guy with a gut. 

That being said, a lot of them SHOULD translate their stage success into livings teaching bodybuilders to peak/prep, posing, presentation, etc.

Great post Rob!

Bodybuilding is the EXACT opposite of what most clients want and what any athlete needs. 

[Shawn Ray]

Ah.............Growing up to be a Personal Trainer was never on my "Wish List" as a 40 year old retired competitor.
I competed because I was a Bodybuilder and made a living doing it.
I'm doing just fine, thank you very much.

S. Ray

[Livewire]

I'm doing just fine, thank you very much.

keep telling strangers that.



you wouldn't want people to see you as insecure and materialistic and unsure of yourself.

[Parker]

Ah.............Growing up to be a Personal Trainer was never on my "Wish List" as a 40 year old retired competitor.
I competed because I was a Bodybuilder and made a living doing it.
I'm doing just fine, thank you very much.

S. Ray

I was just trying to give an avenue that maybe you hadn't though of, and try and translate your knowledge and discipline to as I said a high profile athletic program. Or showing aoem athletes how to get bigger guns, specifically, men tennis players You could show them how that would translate in faster serves. Hell, Serena's arms are bigger than most of them, and her serves rival if not are faster than the mens.

[SAMSON123]

FLex Wheeler couldn't teach a dog to take a shit outside.

YOU'RE RIGHT...THE DOG ALREADY KNOWS HOW TO TAKE A SHIT AND DOESN'T NEED TRAINING FROM FLEX.

[Wombat]

How in the world could a guy like Flex Wheeler train Hollywood stars??? In his own head, he believes he is some kind of star...He wouldn't last 5 minutes in a weight room with someone who walks around with 5 body guards ect...These types of people are delousional