Trab's right, these 2 things are not as identical as people believe...he's also right about how it will help your joints...temporarily. However, speaking only for myself, when on cycle, deca or no deca, my joints always feel better...a littel more so if deca is involved, but the extra water you hold from a cycle will always make your joints fell better. Side note, I'm referring only to when bulking. When dieting, I don't' care what I run, my joints willnot feel as good due to there being less water around the joints lubricating them.
I agree w/ the water helping regardless, but I notice a major diff between lets say a Oxy bloat (and, what bloats more'n that crap?)
and even 200wk of Deca. Overload pointed out way back to beware using deca to mask a prob. (you wont even realize it)
That's part of being in tune w/ our boddies.
Ive had real good results on shoulder prob w/ deca and PT. Many Physical Therapists are posers, but you find the right ones and they got a lot of trick movments up they'z sleve.
I dont particularly care for Deca, but it has some strange properties of value.