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It is time we got rid of the "Mr" in bodybuilding titles.
« on: July 05, 2007, 05:52:39 PM »
When I was a kid the biggest title a bodybuilder could win was Mr Universe. I used to laugh at that title because how does anyone know he is the best in the universe? At best we can claim to be the best here on Earth. Various promoters came up with titles such as Mr Galaxy, Mr America and so on. I suppose Mr World would be about as good as it can get on this planet.

If you google Mr and any country you don't always come up with the names of bodybuilders who have won that title. The Mr title can be 'awarded' to people who stand out for excellence in some way and not just for physique.

Today it is almost embarrassing to have the Mr titles when so many believe that steroids are required to win those titles. Well, there are some natural contests but the public have the notion that the biggest men are using drugs and they are right. In the old days there was no taint about drugs re the top men. We have to go back to the 1940 and early 1950 for that! Guys were still thought of as all brawn and musclebound and perhaps gay in those days. The public always had to diminish the importance of big muscles because if they were an asset then 90 of the male population would feel inferior. Big muscles have always been put down in western modern countries. The last time big muscles were an asset were in the ancient Olympic Games over 2000 years ago. Champions would have sculptures made of themselves. Today we seldom see that happening. Where are the statues of Mr Universe or Mr Olympia champions on display for the public?

Joe and Ben Weider came up with the Mr Olympia title. Well, they needed a title higher than the Mr Universe of NABBA in England. Eventually the Olympia became the premier bodybuilding title which is quite ironical. How on earth is Mr Olympia greater than Mr Universe?! Maybe Joe thought the Olympians approached the immortal gods of ancient Greece and Rome?

These Mr titles are bankrupt and ruined by the drug scandals associated with strength and mirror sports. There is no transcending of mortals to superman just because someone has bigger muscles than most humans. World Bodybuilding Champion should be the title that champions win. Nothing more. It is about time this sport came back to earth. There is no justification for using those Mr titles any more. Winners might be proud in the subculture that is our sport but there is no pride being a professional bodybuilder today. If champions are asked about drugs what do they say? If even 1/10th of the drugs gh15 says is required for success at the professional level is true then there can be no head held high in this sport.

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« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2007, 05:56:10 PM »
Please stop with the blue font.  I may actually consider reading your threads if you wouldn't use it.
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« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2007, 06:01:34 PM »
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« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2007, 06:06:23 PM »
For amateurs in the US, the "Mr" titles pretty much died with the AAU.  So this is really a non-issue.

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« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2007, 06:39:28 PM »
You're right Vince...just look at how stupid this sounds..."Mr. Canada".

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« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2007, 07:05:10 PM »
Mr Canada, Mr Australia, Mr Olympia, Mr America, Mr Universe, Mr World, Mr Getbig are all ridiculous titles. I admit many transcend their small existence with those titles but the public seldom give title holders any credit.

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« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2007, 07:10:49 PM »
When I was a kid the biggest title a bodybuilder could win was Mr Universe. I used to laugh at that title because how does anyone know he is the best in the universe? At best we can claim to be the best here on Earth. Various promoters came up with titles such as Mr Galaxy, Mr America and so on. I suppose Mr World would be about as good as it can get on this planet.

If you google Mr and any country you don't always come up with the names of bodybuilders who have won that title. The Mr title can be 'awarded' to people who stand out for excellence in some way and not just for physique.

Today it is almost embarrassing to have the Mr titles when so many believe that steroids are required to win those titles. Well, there are some natural contests but the public have the notion that the biggest men are using drugs and they are right. In the old days there was no taint about drugs re the top men. We have to go back to the 1940 and early 1950 for that! Guys were still thought of as all brawn and musclebound and perhaps gay in those days. The public always had to diminish the importance of big muscles because if they were an asset then 90 of the male population would feel inferior. Big muscles have always been put down in western modern countries. The last time big muscles were an asset were in the ancient Olympic Games over 2000 years ago. Champions would have sculptures made of themselves. Today we seldom see that happening. Where are the statues of Mr Universe or Mr Olympia champions on display for the public?

Joe and Ben Weider came up with the Mr Olympia title. Well, they needed a title higher than the Mr Universe of NABBA in England. Eventually the Olympia became the premier bodybuilding title which is quite ironical. How on earth is Mr Olympia greater than Mr Universe?! Maybe Joe thought the Olympians approached the immortal gods of ancient Greece and Rome?

These Mr titles are bankrupt and ruined by the drug scandals associated with strength and mirror sports. There is no transcending of mortals to superman just because someone has bigger muscles than most humans. World Bodybuilding Champion should be the title that champions win. Nothing more. It is about time this sport came back to earth. There is no justification for using those Mr titles any more. Winners might be proud in the subculture that is our sport but there is no pride being a professional bodybuilder today. If champions are asked about drugs what do they say? If even 1/10th of the drugs gh15 says is required for success at the professional level is true then there can be no head held high in this sport.

WTF is the point of this post?? You keep thinking of the most ridiculous shit! Who gives a flying fuck if there is "Mr" attached to a title or not?

And what is wrong with drugs? Drugs are great.

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« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2007, 07:21:43 PM »
Mr Canada, Mr Australia, Mr Olympia, Mr America, Mr Universe, Mr World, Mr Getbig are all ridiculous titles. I admit many transcend their small existence with those titles but the public seldom give title holders any credit.

It wasn't ridiculous when YOU were trying for it, right?

Why would I give a rats ass what prestige the "public" gives it? I could care less about what "title" they hold...why would they care about mine?


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« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2007, 07:24:34 PM »
It wasn't ridiculous when YOU were trying for it, right?

Why would I give a rats ass what prestige the "public" gives it? I could care less about what "title" they hold...why would they care about mine?


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« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2007, 08:12:31 PM »
I need the navy font to not be confused with Vince G CSN MFT. Hope this helps.


Actually it will be Melvin Goodrum, PT when I graduate from Greenville College in October.


BTW, this is the most dumbest post I've seen in a long time.  What is the purpose of complaining about how a show is named.  Hardly any show is even using the word Mr in the name of the title.

Basile, I think its time for your meds and a nice long nap
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« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2007, 08:20:18 PM »
My posts attract the intellect of Melvin Goodrum like a magnet. Now, Melvin, where is this Greenville College that you talk about. There is a Greenville College in Illinois. Thank goodness the days of Vince G CSN MFT are numbered!

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« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2007, 08:25:02 PM »
My posts attract the intellect of Melvin Goodrum like a magnet. Now, Melvin, where is this Greenville College that you talk about. There is a Greenville College in Illinois. Thank goodness the days of Vince G CSN MFT are numbered!


Uuh, how about where I live.  Greenville, SC.   ::)
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« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2007, 08:28:34 PM »
Melvin, you have an inclination to 'attend' on line 'colleges' that give you impressive sounding certificates. So, where is this Greenville College and what status has that PT course you are taking? You could do better by coming to Australia for a few months and learn under the master. Not sure how much information your brain can hold, though. I could teach you to weld and fabricate and you could return home and make decent bodybuilding equipment.

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« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2007, 08:35:07 PM »
Melvin, you have an inclination to 'attend' on line 'colleges' that give you impressive sounding certificates. So, where is this Greenville College and what status has that PT course you are taking? You could do better by coming to Australia for a few months and learn under the master. Not sure how much information your brain can hold, though. I could teach you to weld and fabricate and you could return home and make decent bodybuilding equipment.


You can't study Physical Therapy online.... ::)


And your last comment on coming to Australia....I don't even know where that came from  :P 
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« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2007, 09:24:34 PM »
Yes, Melvin, physical therapy and rehab need guys trained in bodybuilding. A good choice from you. You always need to ask someone else for information or obtain diplomas that you think are impressive. If you want to impress Getbiggers get a PhD from a recognized university.

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« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2007, 09:26:18 PM »
I'm still confused as to which Vince is the bigger idiot.

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« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2007, 09:40:12 PM »
You need a way to imply ownership of a title.

I suppose "2007 Getbig Champion" would work.

But "Mr GetBig" just has a better ring to it.

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« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2007, 09:47:54 PM »
I disagree with Vince.. I think all the orgs should bring back the Mr. in the titles, furthermore I think that Arnold should change back the Mr International from the Arnold Classic!

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« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2007, 09:54:54 PM »
Hey, Mr titles do sound more impressive. I am not disputing that. I am saying they are too impressive for what they stand for. Having the best physique hardly qualifies anyone to be the best person in that country or the world. That is my point.

Decades ago they had the Mr America. That was a big title. The promoters felt the winner should represent the epitome of American manhood. What happened was that blacks, gays and dumb guys couldn't win the title. Well, no black won until 1970. They had a 'Most Muscular Man' title for the best brawn. They actually had an interview and if you stuttered you could not win. They also had an athletic requirement. Some did weightlifting to qualify. Sergio Oliva lost to Bob Gajda in 1966 and afterwards Sergio went to the IFBB. At one show he insisted that he win the Mr America title as well as the Mr Universe. They had to give him the trophy!

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« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2007, 10:03:03 PM »
I think bringing back all the Mr titles would pay homage to the past champs and acknowledge the history of bodybuilding.. So it would be a great thing.

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« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2007, 11:27:45 PM »
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Actually it will be Melvin Goodrum, PT when I graduate from Greenville College in October

Melvin, you are such a bs artist. If you are doing physical therapy at a college then you must be attending East Carolina University in Greenville. Greenville College is in Illinois. Fess up and quit the Walter Mitty exaggerating.

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« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2007, 05:04:07 AM »
why, being MR America or Mr Olympia is all part of the grandiosity and narcissism that is bodybuilding today.

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« Reply #22 on: July 06, 2007, 05:09:16 AM »
It's time we get rid of your stupid posts, Vince.

But i think time will solve this problem sooner or later.

BTW, you don't need the navy font to be recognized as yourself because VVV isn't even able to post more than three sentences whereas all of your posts put James Joyce's Ulysses to shame.

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« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2007, 06:11:41 AM »
I actually agree with Vince here - having the title "Mr" whatever makes it sound like a beauty pageant where the judging is very subjective. Getting rid of it would make bodybuilding lean more towards "sport" status and would be taken more seriously by governing bodies such as the IOC. Okay, there's the whole drug issue but I think Arnold and Lorimer have it right when they've got the Arnold Classic without a "Mr" title involved. It probably exceeds the Olympia in revenue and is taken far more seriously than anything the IFBB has to offer.

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« Reply #24 on: July 06, 2007, 06:12:34 AM »
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