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« Reply #125 on: March 24, 2012, 05:08:05 PM »

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« Reply #126 on: October 28, 2012, 07:17:55 AM »

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« Reply #127 on: October 28, 2012, 03:29:46 PM »

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« Reply #128 on: October 29, 2012, 07:38:22 AM »

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« Reply #129 on: November 16, 2012, 04:52:59 AM »

Well due to popular demand I finally decided to start this thread. Over the next few weeks I will post as many Vince related articles as possible.  They will be about training, diet, and everything else from the Gironda Universe.  I figured I'd start it out with this article written by Vince.

The Essence of Bodybuilding
By Vince Gironda
(From Iron Man, May 1983)
I have stated numerous times that champions obviously possess something that others do not. Even though training partners do the same routine set for set, rep for rep, they do not obtain the benefits of the champions.

I have observed champions train in a manner I do not approve, but they receive results that are phenomenal. What is it that they possess? Well, I will tell you, they are using mental suggestion (self-hypnosis).

When I first observed this, it puzzled me. The first time I noticed Walt Baptiste, former gym owner and magazine publisher from San Francisco (Body Moderne), touching his abdominals while backstage before going out to pose at several physique contests, he seemed to be saying something to his abdominals as he stroked them. He seemed to be sending a message into this body section, because I could actually see the abs sharpen up and grow more outlined than his normal condition. I later discovered that Walt was sending mental images to his subconscious, to produce this phenomena.

I learned that you can actually produce the desired condition by picturing in your mind what you wish to manifest. He also breathed deeply and regularly in through his nose and out through his pursed lips. As you know, this type of breathing is employed between sets prior to repeating the next set. At this time, the mechanism employed should be to picture in your mind a clear image of the muscle or area of the body you wish to develop, and hold the image throughout the performance of that set.

Walt promoted the first Mr. California Physique Contests, in which I placed second and third several times. He later gave up his gym and opened a chain of yoga studios in the San Francisco area.

The technique of mental suggestion is what all physical culture writers are trying to explain when they throw that nebulous term "concentration" at you. They seem to recognize that concentration is necessary, but do not know how to trigger the mechanism that produces the phenomenon. The subconscious believes any thought you perceive, and stores it. It accepts everything that is thought or spoken by you or another, if you accept it as truth. But it must be repeated again and again until the subconscious accepts it as fact. Then it will produce the condition pictured in your mind.

This procedure is what I maintain is used by the champions, whether or not they are aware of it. They are convinced of a successful outcome.

This awareness is more important that any steroid drug, any diet plan or supplement, or any exercise routine ever conceived. I have observed bodybuilders who take steroids and receive no benefits. They take unimaginable amounts of supplements and constantly try new routines, but are not getting results, and never will until they discover that what I have written here is the true essence of bodybuilding. For years I have been asked by my fans to write the secrets of the champions, and here you have it.
 


not genetics with juice and lots of training and some liposuction ?
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« Reply #132 on: November 16, 2012, 08:23:05 AM »

http://physicalcounterculture.blogspot.com/p/vince-gironda-6-week-bulk-course.html
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« Reply #133 on: November 16, 2012, 11:33:40 AM »

vince's book the wild physique is a good read...his diet advice can be questioned as being a bit unhealthy...but compared to the beef it book by bob kennedy the wild physique beats it by light years.

vince also looks ripped on his diet


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« Reply #134 on: November 16, 2012, 01:25:03 PM »

magikusar analysis:

vince looked awesome

he did roids

he did lighter weights for higher reps and all protein deit with roids to get ripped

he is closer to ideal than ronnie and todays bus body types

I do not think he skipped roids, just a feeling, liek jordan and pippen, just not lift heavy when on em

if he didnt do roid, which I feel 99% he did, then all the better

a guy who showed howto look good

should have written more books, his only one 99$ on amazon used
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« Reply #135 on: November 16, 2012, 02:07:21 PM »

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« Reply #136 on: December 03, 2012, 03:18:12 PM »

When you look at his chest i think dips do make a difference.. gives a nice shape
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« Reply #137 on: December 05, 2012, 04:39:14 AM »

That's posing... I don't see much of that anymore.
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« Reply #138 on: December 05, 2012, 04:52:26 AM »

When you look at his chest i think dips do make a difference.. gives a nice shape


My chest has benefitted from doing two Gironda favorites: neck presses and "reverse" v-bar dips.

Since I almost always train alone anymore, I typically use either a Smith or Hammer Strength machine, which I feel has no bearing on the effectiveness of the movement. If anything, I suspect the machine "forces" me to use AND KEEP the critically stricter form throughout each set.

The dips are a bit different. Since v-bars are a rarity in gyms these days, I perform a modified version on parallel dipping bars by placing my hands on the butt/end of the handles with my knuckles facing the same direction they would as in the Gironda method. I find the feel of this to be amazing whether using closer or wider spaced handles.

Granted, the results aren't "magic," but my chest has seen noticeable improvement as a result of these exercises.
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« Reply #139 on: December 05, 2012, 11:21:51 AM »


My chest has benefitted from doing two Gironda favorites: neck presses and "reverse" v-bar dips.

Since I almost always train alone anymore, I typically use either a Smith or Hammer Strength machine, which I feel has no bearing on the effectiveness of the movement. If anything, I suspect the machine "forces" me to use AND KEEP the critically stricter form throughout each set.

The dips are a bit different. Since v-bars are a rarity in gyms these days, I perform a modified version on parallel dipping bars by placing my hands on the butt/end of the handles with my knuckles facing the same direction they would as in the Gironda method. I find the feel of this to be amazing whether using closer or wider spaced handles.

Granted, the results aren't "magic," but my chest has seen noticeable improvement as a result of these exercises.
vince g was portrayed as being totally opposed to the newer machines of his day{nautilis machines} i believe mainly because gym owners of the time didn't want to give these machines creedance and than having to purchase them for their gyms.


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« Reply #140 on: December 05, 2012, 11:33:10 AM »

well some gym owners opted for Nautilus only gyms too... I think V Gironda really was not into these machines and was maybe a bit blinkered by his own theories.
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« Reply #141 on: December 06, 2012, 10:06:28 AM »

Never have been to Gironda's former gym (think it was torn down when I was a kid), but having spoken to two old timers who had been, it seems there never would have been room for any Nautilus type machines in there, in the first place. Plus the cost, given the rumor that Gironda was very tight with the buck. Probable due, in part, to some of his ex-wife'/girl friends. And not giving the satisfaction that any machine could get more credit than his BB'ing methods. (as Funk51 suggest..I bet Funk's been to that gym). Remembering that Gironda designed and built most of the devices in that gym. Been by the parking lot where the gym once was (Ventura Blvd) just over the pass from Hollywood. Sad , really.

Gionda had excellent body tie-in's, balance and flowing lines. No dis here; but as far as most impressive muscle mass and development, not so much (my view only). But for a small boned man,he had the classic lines that the average man or women could relate too; Greek and Roman classic.

A genius for his time, and even today, no doubt. His thoughts and pamphlets hold idea's of value, even today, for true and pure BB'ing.
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« Reply #142 on: December 06, 2012, 10:33:09 AM »

When you look at his chest i think dips do make a difference.. gives a nice shape
100 pct my chest grow on those alone,,i do at time for weeks the bench to the neck which he advocated,sometimes superset dips with inc or flat flyes..
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« Reply #143 on: December 06, 2012, 11:09:47 AM »

100 pct my chest grow on those alone,,i do at time for weeks the bench to the neck which he advocated,sometimes superset dips with inc or flat flyes..
just my humble opinion but the Dip spreads your chest. It seems to shape it ALL. sure a flat Bench will hit it all too and will build a thick chest but the parallel bar dip builds and shapes it. Hard to explain.. people say Dips ..lower chest line...Bench press(flat) lower middle and Incline(upper). I still feel dips more in my chest than Bench press but i do both(alternate workouts because both together would kill me). Do not get me wrong Benches are great too.. i have to use DB flys in my bench workout too to feel my chest like Dips.
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« Reply #144 on: December 06, 2012, 11:31:21 AM »

just my humble opinion but the Dip spreads your chest. It seems to shape it ALL. sure a flat Bench will hit it all too and will build a thick chest but the parallel bar dip builds and shapes it. Hard to explain.. people say Dips ..lower chest line...Bench press(flat) lower middle and Incline(upper). I still feel dips more in my chest than Bench press but i do both(alternate workouts because both together would kill me). Do not get me wrong Benches are great too.. i have to use DB flys in my bench workout too to feel my chest like Dips.
DO DIPS 15/20 REPS 4X THEN GO TO BEACH LOL,,DELTS AND OUTER/ UPPER PECS LOOK INSANE...I AM A BIG FLYE AND CABLE CROSSOVER ADVOCATE AG GO QUITE HEAVY ON THEM OUTER CHEST AND UPPER TIE IN IS WHAT MAKES A GREAT CHEST...
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« Reply #145 on: December 06, 2012, 01:21:33 PM »

DO DIPS 15/20 REPS 4X THEN GO TO BEACH LOL,,DELTS AND OUTER/ UPPER PECS LOOK INSANE...I AM A BIG FLYE AND CABLE CROSSOVER ADVOCATE AG GO QUITE HEAVY ON THEM OUTER CHEST AND UPPER TIE IN IS WHAT MAKES A GREAT CHEST...
well i can hit 15 reps per set dips and i am finished. i have tried weighted dips in the 6-8 rep range but itīs not the same. High reps as you pointed out are best.
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« Reply #146 on: December 06, 2012, 02:49:08 PM »

well i can hit 15 reps per set dips and i am finished. i have tried weighted dips in the 6-8 rep range but itīs not the same. High reps as you pointed out are best.
I DO SETS UP TO 20 AT TIMES AT END OF WORKOUT OR BEGINNING TO GET THING'S PUMPING,,I HAVE DONE WEIGHTED THING 45 THEN 45 AND 25 ATTACHED LOW REPS LIKE U MENTIONED AND IT WRECKS UR FRONT DELTS AND PUMP IS LESS GO FIGURE,,,SAME WITH CHINS BODYWEIGHT AND WEIGHTED NO DIFFERENCE
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« Reply #147 on: December 10, 2012, 04:55:33 PM »

did anyone post a workout yet?

seems dips, spider bench curl, hack squat, and curls against body? with some db laterals?
no abs
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eat protien n heavy whip cream?

so muscles start to grow in promportions make u look wide and army
and dieet leans u out
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« Reply #148 on: December 10, 2012, 04:58:25 PM »

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« Reply #149 on: December 11, 2012, 05:47:40 AM »

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