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"Designer" dogs
« on: July 12, 2007, 04:06:20 PM »
I am not for all these designer dogs being bred now.  For the following reasons:
 


  • Dogs were bred for a purpose. These made up breeds have no purpose. Their is something about their being an original intention of the breed, even if dogs aren't usually used for those purposes anymore.
  • Yesterday's "mutts" are todays "must haves". Go into any shelter and you will find an even rarer "designer breed" that no one else has!  There may only be 5 of this "designer breed" in your whole state! And they are all related to each other.  ;
  • "Designer breeds" encourage BYB's and puppy mills to just breed 2 dogs and slap a cute name on them to make money.
  • The names they come up with stink. Cocka-poople-doodles! Look at a list of recognized breed names and some of the "designer breed" names and tell me which ones have substance to them? How is a dog supposed to be proud of some of those names? Would you rather be a mutt or a Shnauzerllasapsolus?



 I am not against mixed breeds, they are great dogs.  I am against slapping a frou frou name on mixed breed dog, charging a ridiculous amount for the dog, and calling yourself a breeder.


     I will be back.  I think my  Greatdanelabrador needs to go out.   ;D

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Re: "Designer" dogs
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2007, 04:23:12 PM »
I agree.

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Re: "Designer" dogs
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2007, 05:55:01 PM »
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I like the puggles....

so hate me

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Re: "Designer" dogs
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2007, 03:23:56 AM »
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Re: "Designer" dogs
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2007, 03:38:29 AM »
I am surprised cross-breeding like that is even allowed.

It's fcuked up, and the health of these dogs gets fcuked up too. >:(

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« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2007, 04:16:37 AM »
I am surprised cross-breeding like that is even allowed.

It's fcuked up, and the health of these dogs gets fcuked up too. >:(

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Well dogs are all dogs, just like people are all people. Breeds/Races.

 Mutts can be healthier because they may avoid the breed related problems. You can however introduce a new health problem to a breed, ie a breathing problem if a breed that didn't have a smushed snout, now has one. 

 As long as people are willing to pay these high prices for "mutts" people will continue to breed them purposely and to come up with new "designers". 

 It is pure greed.  And IMO, encourages BYB's and puppy mills and more and more of them will be ending up in shelters from impulse buys or owner dumps because the dogs were poorly bred.

  Go to the shelter and you will find lots of "designer breeds".


  The only "designer breed" that I personally could see becoming a registered breed (and it may already by accepted by the AKC?) is the Labradoodle because it was bred for a purpose, to be hypo-allergenic for people with low dog allergies.  I can see a "purpose" for that dog and the intentions behind it.


But "designer breeds" in general, IMO, are not good for the welfare of dogs overall.

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Re: "Designer" dogs
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2007, 08:49:36 AM »
Yes..mutts tend to have less problems than some pure breeds.

I like the way puggles look.  Wouldn't spend $700 for them though.

Our Rottie would crush it....so we would never do it.

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Re: "Designer" dogs
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2007, 04:19:30 PM »
It actually kind of pisses me off.  I had a beagle pug mutt when I was a kid.  I had no idea back then I had a $700+ designer dog.  it was a mutt the whole family loved, nothing more. 

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Re: "Designer" dogs
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2007, 05:09:27 PM »

You started the designer dog craze!! Shame!! Shame on you Vet!!!   






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Re: "Designer" dogs
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2007, 09:32:48 AM »
I like mixes like Oscar, commonly known as a Bweeb hound.
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Re: "Designer" dogs
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2007, 06:56:25 AM »
Want a designer dog? Check the pound

Puggles, maltipoos are pricey — and essentially mixed-breed mutts

By Kim Campbell Thornton
MSNBC contributor
Updated: 6:49 a.m. ET March 20, 2007

Ever hear of a floppy-faced Jujitsu? How about a King Daley shepherd? A Germox retriever? Those are just a few of the creative monikers that clever dog owners have come up with to label their all-American dogs — mutts, to people with less imagination.

When Steve Dale, the syndicated talk-show host of "Pet Central" on WGN Radio, and his wife decided to get another dog recently after the death of their 15-year-old Brittany, Chaser, all the Brittanys they saw brought tears, so they took their search to PAWS (Pets Are Worth Saving) Chicago, the city’s largest nonprofit humane organization. There they found Ethel, a patchwork puppy who resembles the wild “painted dogs” of Africa.

“People stopped us on the street and asked what kind of dog Ethel was,” Dale says. “They seemed disappointed when I’d say she was an Australian shepherd mix.”

Since people seemed to want Ethel to “be” something, Dale began calling her a King Daley shepherd, referencing Chicago’s longtime mayors.

Janice A. Biniok of Waukesha, Wis., has been creating “breed” names for her mixes for years. Currently she has what is probably a Labrador/boxer/German shepherd.

“He’s absolutely gorgeous. He looks like a brindle Labrador, so everybody wants to know what he is. I’ve been thinking of calling him a Germox retriever,” she says.

Why can’t a mutt be just a mutt?

Everybody wants something unique, says Stanley Coren, a professor of psychology at the University of British Columbia and author of "Why Do Dogs Have Wet Noses?"

People who seek out the dog du jour — which these days is a crossbreed such as a maltipoo (Maltese/poodle) or goldendoodle (golden retriever/poodle) — like the idea of having a dog that not very many people have. And don't mind paying $1,000 to $2,500 or more for one.

Best of each breed?
Pet lovers are also attracted by claims that hybrids are hypoallergenic or have fewer health problems or will carry the best traits of each breed.

“The argument people make is that by crossing a purebred Labrador and a purebred poodle, it’s going to be nonshedding and intelligent because poodles are nonshedding and intelligent, and it’s going to have the work ethic and playfulness of the Lab, making it the perfect family dog,” Coren says. “It’s a nice story, but when you tell it, geneticists laugh.”

Genetic characteristics sort out randomly. So no matter what its breed or mix, an individual dog may be more or less allergenic, intelligent or healthy than another.

“When you cross two things it doesn’t necessarily mean you’re going to optimize what you’re trying to achieve,” says veterinarian Patricia Olson, president and CEO of Morris Animal Foundation, a group in Englewood, Colo., that funds research on pet-health issues.

“You can’t just say if I take this and this I’m sure I’m going to have a healthier dog; it doesn’t work that way. That’s why a lot of these crosses become fads and then go by the wayside, because people have experimented with them in the past and it hasn’t always been what they had hoped for.”

Biniok says the mutts she has adopted from the shelter have never had the hereditary health problems that affected her two purebreds, a Great Dane and a Boston terrier.

While mixed breeds as a class have more variety of inherited diseases than any single pure breed because of their broader gene pool, the frequency of any given disease among mixed breeds is likely to be lower because the population is more diverse.

But because designer dogs are purposely bred from dogs of specific types or breeds, they may have a higher incidence of certain diseases, such as breathing difficulties, cancer or hip dysplasia, depending on the breeds used to create them. The Xolo (or Mexican Hairless) mixes have as many if not more health problems as the purebreds, says Amy Fernandez of Forest Hills, N.Y., who is president of the Xoloitzcuintli Club of America, for people with this scrawny, hairless breed.

Not always a glamorous picture
Plenty of hybrids are well-loved pets, but the ones that outgrow the “cute” stage can face an uncertain future.

“Right now we are dealing with Xolo/Jack Russell mixes, Xolo/pit bull mixes, Xolo/Chihuahua mixes that we cannot find homes for,” Fernandez says.

“People are happy to fork over big bucks to buy these dogs as puppies, but once buyers realize that what they have is a complicated, demanding dog, many of these hairless wonders end up in shelters or worse," she says. "At least once every winter we hear of hairless dogs intentionally abandoned outdoors to freeze.”

When you want a dog that’s one of a kind, there’s no need to spend big bucks to get it. Visit your local shelter instead and come home with your very own roughcoated Malibu griffon, Golden Gate Chiwienie dog or North American mottled shepherd.

Whatever you choose, and whatever you call it, the dog will be just as unique and special as a pricier pup.

Kim Campbell Thornton is an award-winning author who has written many articles and more than a dozen books about dogs and cats. She belongs to the Dog Writers Association of America and is past president of the Cat Writers Association. She shares her home in California with two Cavalier King Charles Spaniels and one African ringneck parakeet.
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