Jeff certainly has that "winner's look" up there but you see the faux-hawked black guy just killing him from the back in lat thickness? That has to be what did it...but for it being a natural show, and all other factors accounted for, Jeff is obviously the best bodybuilder onstage in those comparisons. It's one thing to be the best conditioned...but to match that with jrod's professional, polished styling is something rare indeed. I say at this point Jeff should probably be fielding some decent endorsement deals. He's as real as natural bodybuilding gets. Any serious natural is gonna pay very close attention to his techniques because that is natural bodybuilding at the highest level. More believable than Skip but just as hardcore. Somebody sign this guy. Layne, get him on your show.