Help with a cycle

[old nutrition man]

I'm 37 and have won some local shows in the past. I want to take a good cycle but with tabs only. What do you guys think for a lean mass cycle?

[Rimbaud]

No one should do a "oral" only cycle - you need some test. Anyway, since that's what you want I would highly recommend doing a cycle of just tbol (maybe 30-50mg ED). It's fairly mild & gives one lean gains.

[Puller]

Is there any reason why you would only want to take orals?   

[Rimbaud]

Is there any reason why you would only want to take orals?   

Usually it's because they're afraid of needles.

[old nutrition man]

Because of my wife I can hide the tabs. I used a lot years ago and competed a lot and she does not like it at all. At one time I was 260 at 12% and compt. at 215

[Rimbaud]

Because of my wife I can hide the tabs. I used a lot years ago and competed a lot and she does not like it at all. At one time I was 260 at 12% and compt. at 215

I see. Even though I don't approve of an all oral cycle I still stand by the Tbol.

[old nutrition man]

Is that the only thing, what at bout 2 shots for sus 250 week my I can swing that.

[Rimbaud]

Is that the only thing, what at bout 2 shots for sus 250 week my I can swing that.

The way I see it - Tbol is the perfect choice. It's like Dbol-lite. There's very little bloating & you gain lean muscle. IMO - it's the perfect oral.

[trab]

Is that the only thing, what at bout 2 shots for sus 250 week my I can swing that.

YOu can whack 5-10cc in a day or 2 of REAL SUS if you tolerate the prop.
10cc will be 1000mgs active around day 10-14.
300prop 600iso &phenyl and 1gr Decanoate. 21 day blast. add deca too, and your fav orals.

That 1000 will drop like a rock day 21-30. Must catch the fall.

[wes mantooth]

Is that the only thing, what at bout 2 shots for sus 250 week my I can swing that.

if you can swing 2 shots a week....thats a good protocol for a proper cycle. why do orals only then?

tan twice a week at your gym and do the shots in the tanning room. keep the gear in your gym bag.....

[Luv2Hurt]

Because of my wife I can hide the tabs. I used a lot years ago and competed a lot and she does not like it at all. At one time I was 260 at 12% and compt. at 215

Now is that a way to go through life....hiding things from your wife?  Whats gonna happen when she finds out, isnt that kind of deceptive?

[Arnold jr]

Now is that a way to go through life....hiding things from your wife?  Whats gonna happen when she finds out, isnt that kind of deceptive?

Agreed...being up front is the way to be. She may very well flip out if you bring it up, but how much more so will she flip out when she finds out later down the road?

As for the cycle, adding in 2injects of test/wk will make things much easier. For the orals, a combo of anavar, and primo tabs might be an option...it's my understanding though that you have to take a higher dose of the primo tabs then the depot to get the same effect...personally I've never used primo, but it is an option. Then of course you could consider winny tabs which would help a good deal.

[old nutrition man]

Thanks for all the input, it's time to go for it.....................

[old nutrition man]

Wife is ok with it for right now, hows about 750mg test E ,400mg EQ EVERY WEEK
and 50 mg dbol for starters? ED

[SWOLETRAIN]

Wife is ok with it for right now, hows about 750mg test E ,400mg EQ EVERY WEEK
and 50 mg dbol for starters? ED

too much test for prep. And dbol? bloated mania.
test e 500/wk
eq      400/wk
winny  100/eod
dont forget AI aromasin dex or my fav, letro