Juice or not, you look amazing dude. If you are natural, you are easily the best built natty on here.
Croatch, if someone sticks a needle in themselves, they are not going to get huge and muscular by sitting on their ass dude. They still have to go to the gym and bust their balls. Don't be like Adonis and think you can look down on a user - guys like you and Adonis are a dime a dozen in any gym and there's nothing special about being a ripped 170 with 15" arms and a bicep vein Roll Eyes
He looks so so for juicing. That's pretty much a fact. Open a Flex magazine to see what someone on juice should look like.
Yes, if you juice, you still have to go to the gym....but not really break your ass making gains. I see national competitors at my gym lift sorry ass weight with mediocre intensity. It's about drugs/genetic repsonse to drugs/diet...not "blood, sweat, and tears". You must watch too many Rocky movies.
Training naturally requires more dedication for a longer period of time. Look around your gym and tell me how many look pretty sick...without drugs...answer, very few. On drugs, it's a joke. If you can't look unreal with the use of anabolic, you've got fucked genetics or a really poor work ethic. Look at women bodybuilders or older guys, basically anyone and their uncle can do it through enough drug use.
No, there's nothing special about being natural and ripped at 170lbs...I agree. Luckily I'm 205lbs 5' 7 1/2", 5%bf. Again, know who you're speaking on, before typing.
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