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Re: How the Mr Olympia champion has evolved, then de-volved
« Reply #25 on: July 22, 2007, 02:38:28 PM »
cool vid, this years O will be a good one!!!

no doubt.  I honestly think they're gonna let the best man win it.

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Re: How the Mr Olympia champion has evolved, then de-volved
« Reply #26 on: July 22, 2007, 02:45:40 PM »
 well, if thats true, my congrats go out to Ronnie, who is soon to be a 9 time Mr. O. 8)
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Re: How the Mr Olympia champion has evolved, then de-volved
« Reply #27 on: July 22, 2007, 03:46:17 PM »
well, if thats true, my congrats go out to Ronnie, who is soon to be a 9 time Mr. O. 8)

actaully he is soon to embarrass hismself further as being a bitter racist former mr olympia who didn't know when to quit.

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Re: How the Mr Olympia champion has evolved, then de-volved
« Reply #28 on: July 22, 2007, 06:54:58 PM »
don't get me wrong - for the size that he was in 2003, ronnie looked unreal.

but his 99 form still had much more detail and a smaller waist that looked much better IMO.

lots of people on the internet think ronnie's 2003 form was his best ever...until you show them what he looked like in 1999 LOL




hulkster and his pathetic crusade with ronnie from 99.

everyone was around when ronnie won in 99 and it was just another olympia - nothing special.

i'm asked you at least 10 times to document ANYTHING from 99 or 2000 saying ronnie's form that year was the best ever.

you cant bc there is nothing.
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Re: How the Mr Olympia champion has evolved, then de-volved
« Reply #29 on: July 22, 2007, 07:15:20 PM »
LOok you morons, bbing had to evolve or it would have gotten boring and the sport would have died. And in bbing tradition bigger has always been better, you talk about arnold, scott, haney, and dorian as have very pleasing physiques, you need to remember that in there day they were the mass monsters. All those guys were the jay, and ronnie's of there day. The sport had to become better, it had to improve and size has always been the way it goes.
Wrong.  The sport is dying as we speak.  The amount of drugs and pursuit for size is killing the sport imo

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Re: How the Mr Olympia champion has evolved, then de-volved
« Reply #30 on: July 27, 2007, 07:26:11 AM »
Wrong.  The sport is dying as we speak.  The amount of drugs and pursuit for size is killing the sport imo

people have been saying that for decades.

but more people are bodybuilding than ever.
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Re: How the Mr Olympia champion has evolved, then de-volved
« Reply #31 on: July 27, 2007, 07:30:17 AM »
these are the highlights:

'67 Oliva
'74 Arnold
'83 Bannout
'86 Haney
'93 Dorian
'98 Coleman

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Re: How the Mr Olympia champion has evolved, then de-volved
« Reply #32 on: July 27, 2007, 07:48:33 AM »
the bottom line is that the "sport" needs to re-invente itself.  The criteria for what a mr. o is today seems to be totally different than what it was 25 years ago.  Lots of people wouldn't like it and I feel bad for a guy like Jay who busted his ass to give the judges what they want but award the guys who present a body that fits the original criteria..your melvins, your victors, dexters, etc. 
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Re: How the Mr Olympia champion has evolved, then de-volved
« Reply #33 on: July 27, 2007, 05:36:03 PM »

hulkster and his pathetic crusade with ronnie from 99.

everyone was around when ronnie won in 99 and it was just another olympia - nothing special.

i'm asked you at least 10 times to document ANYTHING from 99 or 2000 saying ronnie's form that year was the best ever.

you cant bc there is nothing.

you are very bitter that getbig thinks you are stupid, aren't you?

in case you have not noticed, many people feel that Ronnie in his 99 shape was unbeatable onstage.. ::)
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Re: How the Mr Olympia champion has evolved, then de-volved
« Reply #34 on: July 28, 2007, 12:08:46 AM »
the bottom line is that the "sport" needs to re-invente itself.  The criteria for what a mr. o is today seems to be totally different than what it was 25 years ago.  Lots of people wouldn't like it and I feel bad for a guy like Jay who busted his ass to give the judges what they want but award the guys who present a body that fits the original criteria..your melvins, your victors, dexters, etc. 

how can you give the trophy to a guy THIRTY POUNDS LIGHTER than coleman?

you cant.
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Re: How the Mr Olympia champion has evolved, then de-volved
« Reply #35 on: July 30, 2007, 10:36:29 PM »
bodybuilding is interesting, yes.  We're kinda conditioned to the guts and most of us don't mind em.  I can imagine new fans might find them to be repulsive from minute one though.  There aren't many people who would look at the swollen belly and say "I want to look like that".

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Re: How the Mr Olympia champion has evolved, then de-volved
« Reply #36 on: July 30, 2007, 10:40:50 PM »
flex wheeler is the PEAK of bodybuilding in terms or shape, lines, symetry, and flow.     he also was fucking MASSIVE, and had great conditioning. arguable one of the top 5 best conditioned pros of all time.
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Re: How the Mr Olympia champion has evolved, then de-volved
« Reply #37 on: July 31, 2007, 12:24:04 AM »
Personaly i like the freaks of today though in saying that my favourite bodybuilder was Sergio Oliva.
The chemical enhanced freaks are unbelievable to look at they are disgusting yet i cannot take my eyes off them ;D
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Re: How the Mr Olympia champion has evolved, then de-volved
« Reply #38 on: July 31, 2007, 07:41:54 PM »
people have been saying that for decades.

but more people are bodybuilding than ever.
Maybe more people are working out, but I dont know many people who consider themselves bodybuilders.  The attendance at shows seems to be getting weaker.

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Re: How the Mr Olympia champion has evolved, then de-volved
« Reply #39 on: July 31, 2007, 11:18:48 PM »
I agree with some of the others here who say the peak was in the 80's.  That I think was the best combination of size and aesthetics.  The 90's could have been the best if people like Levrone, Flex, and Shawn Ray actually won instead of Dorian who looked unbelievably poor in comparison; he was just a stack of bricks.  Not to intentionally piss people off, but I think that Dorian is the worst Mr. O ever.

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Re: How the Mr Olympia champion has evolved, then de-volved
« Reply #40 on: August 06, 2007, 03:47:23 PM »
I agree with some of the others here who say the peak was in the 80's.  That I think was the best combination of size and aesthetics.  The 90's could have been the best if people like Levrone, Flex, and Shawn Ray actually won instead of Dorian who looked unbelievably poor in comparison; he was just a stack of bricks.  Not to intentionally piss people off, but I think that Dorian is the worst Mr. O ever.

Dorian might be the worst.   Cutler might be the worst too.
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Re: How the Mr Olympia champion has evolved, then de-volved
« Reply #41 on: August 06, 2007, 04:09:13 PM »
LOL cue Icecold on the defensive about dorian lol

ah... the minority opinion...hahahhaaha
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Re: How the Mr Olympia champion has evolved, then de-volved
« Reply #42 on: August 06, 2007, 04:13:33 PM »
Yates + 90's buddies = required huge amount of drugs to achieve the look. Burned out like sugar flies.



Ron + Jay + Dex + Vic = use about half of  what the Dorian regime used. That's why Ron is still around, that's why Jay is in for the long run and so is Vic.

Current Pros > 90's pros -therefore-> Better genetics.

So We're not regressing.

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Re: How the Mr Olympia champion has evolved, then de-volved
« Reply #43 on: August 07, 2007, 03:30:23 PM »
Yates + 90's buddies = required huge amount of drugs to achieve the look. Burned out like sugar flies.



Ron + Jay + Dex + Vic = use about half of  what the Dorian regime used. That's why Ron is still around, that's why Jay is in for the long run and so is Vic.

Current Pros > 90's pros -therefore-> Better genetics.

So We're not regressing.

Ron's still around because he started gear late.  And Jay?  He just turned 34 and he looks like he's 45.

Attendance says it all - and less people go to shows now.
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Re: How the Mr Olympia champion has evolved, then de-volved
« Reply #44 on: August 07, 2007, 06:11:06 PM »
these are the highlights:

'67 Oliva
'74 Arnold
'83 Bannout
'86 Haney
'93 Dorian
'98 Coleman

'07 Freeman

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Re: How the Mr Olympia champion has evolved, then de-volved
« Reply #45 on: August 07, 2007, 06:13:25 PM »
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Not to intentionally piss people off, but I think that Dorian is the worst Mr. O ever.


in some of his post tear forms, he might be.

but he did look good in 93.
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Re: How the Mr Olympia champion has evolved, then de-volved
« Reply #46 on: August 07, 2007, 06:25:47 PM »
The Reason the sport has suffered is simple. Arnold and Lee were both on the Presidental Council of Fitness and pushed fitness thru the governement. They provided the Governement people guide lines and information on general fitness. That is were your Boom came from - Once Dorian won the Olympia Title - he returned to Britain for 6 years -during that 6 years - not Flex, Shawn or Kevin or anyone stepped into those shoes to contiue what arnold and Lee did....

Once Ronnie won it was another 8 years of no involvment in educating the world on the science of bodybuilding and the princeiples. To Date I do not see Jay doing it either. So once we were the leaders now we are the circus freaks.

However - the United states has no guidance on fitness - Oprah , Dr. Phil and some people on over night TV are promoting products and providing the US the gudiance for staying in shape. Results - They are fatter than ever and more lost.

Take our sport back to a respective level - attend shows and share good information and let them know that bodybuilding is a science not just a freak show. Pros need to take responsability and stay in better shape year round. Judges need to stick to guidelines they set and judge for the man for the day. supplement companies need to sell supplements and stop trying to be agents.

Drugs will always be present and always was - simple - go to the doctor and get a perscription and then there is no problem - if not just bodybuild and diet and do cardio.

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Re: How the Mr Olympia champion has evolved, then de-volved
« Reply #47 on: August 09, 2007, 05:53:26 PM »
It's all about preferences.  Some guys look past the gut and care only about being the largest, freakiest person on stage.  Other care about the most beautiful physique.  You'll never find an answer everyone agrees with as its a subjective sport.

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Re: How the Mr Olympia champion has evolved, then de-volved
« Reply #48 on: August 09, 2007, 07:19:49 PM »
Ron's still around because he started gear late.
he started "gear" late.... How do you know how "late" he started? Are you his best buddie?
 


And Jay?  He just turned 34 and he looks like he's 45.
calling the "old looking" (getbig sheeps) every chance they get...


Attendance says it all - and less people go to shows now.
Not true. Last Arnold was a record attendance and so what the O before that.

Check out your facts bitch.


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Re: How the Mr Olympia champion has evolved, then de-volved
« Reply #49 on: August 11, 2007, 04:58:28 PM »
Check out your facts bitch.

I'm better looking than you.

This is a fact.
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