Sen. Robert Byrd-Stops short of Michael Vick Execution on Senate Floor!

[dr.chimps]

His facts are certainly correct, they would have to be. But, what the Newsweek article that was posted as well as some other arugements being made are that Moores facts are correct but it is the way in which a presents them to the viewer and certain things that are left out of his film(s) that make the movie completely biased towards his viewpoint. Plain and simple. He is not "lying" per-se, but his films are def. slanted toward his view point simply by what facts he chooses to include, exclude and how they are presented.
Example: The U.S. healthcare system is a mess, but he presents Cubas/French system as a crowning achievement in medical effiencey. It isn't. And of course your response will be "FACTS,EVIDENCE" and again, the facts are true, the presentation of those facts unfortunately is not. It's his film, his message and he can do whatever he wants with it. Fair enough.

Bingo. He is a polemicist like many others; and that's what they do. He's no different that many others, except his medium is 'documentary' films. 

[bigdumbbell]

His facts are certainly correct, they would have to be. But, what the Newsweek article that was posted as well as some other arugements being made are that Moores facts are correct but it is the way in which a presents them to the viewer and certain things that are left out of his film(s) that make the movie completely biased towards his viewpoint. Plain and simple. He is not "lying" per-se, but his films are def. slanted toward his view point simply by what facts he chooses to include, exclude and how they are presented.
Example: The U.S. healthcare system is a mess, but he presents Cubas/French system as a crowning achievement in medical effiencey. It isn't. And of course your response will be "FACTS,EVIDENCE" and again, the facts are true, the presentation of those facts unfortunately is not. It's his film, his message and he can do whatever he wants with it. Fair enough.

Oh, and as for "Grand High Wizard" Robert Byrd....he made a complete clown, fool, doddering moron out of himself during his glorious speech. And yes I got a chance to listen to plenty of it and I was embarrased for the poor guy. "CAN YOU HEAR ME!!!....(shuffling of papers, loosing place) BARBARIC!!!.....(shuffling of papers, loosing place) HOMELAND!!!!......" I would ask "How did he get elected" but then again, I could ask that question a hundred or two times about many other members of our wonderful Congress.  HOMELAND!!!

yes and opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one

[buffalo]

Michael Vick should be electrocuted....

hey..I mean it's what he did to dogs who weren't "good enough", right?

Well, Michael Vick is a dog who isn't good enough to be called a human...so down he goes.

end of story guy 

a good Sat. Nite Live skit:

Michael Vick starts screwing up royally during NFL games and finally the head coach & team owner come to him and tell him that his performance has been really bad all season and that it's just not working out having him on the team. 

Vick starts to look real nervous, sweat rolls off his forehead...The coach says "Sorry Michael...you just haven't been serving your purpose on the field...no hard feelings man.  We can't afford to lose any more bets made on your pathetic ass and your salary can go to someone who is worth it."

Vick looks around and suddenly he's surrounded by a couple of big guys in white coats.  They lead him off the field and into the underground sewer beneath the stadium.  Now he's standing in a shallow trench of water, and one of the guys attaches a thick wire noose tightly around Vicks neck.

The big electrical switch is flipped and dumbass is shocked into oblivion. 

is that so wrong??

[wisconsinBB]

SOUNDS GREAT.  Where can i get tickets to watch

[SAMSON123]

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Byrd blasts dogfighting as 'barbaric'


By Mannix Porterfield
THE REGISTER-HERALD (BECKLEY, W.V.)

BECKLEY, W.Va, —
Pro footballer Michael Vick inspired Sen. Robert C. Byrd to a stunning rebuke Thursday of dogfighting, an illegal activity the West Virginia lawmaker branded as "barbaric, brutal and cruel."

A dog owner himself, Byrd shied from direct comment on the Atlanta Falcons quarterback's legal troubles, reminding Senate colleagues he has been accused, not convicted.

Vick faces a July 26 hearing in a federal courtroom in Virginia on charges that he sponsored a vicious dogfighting operation on land he owned in Surry County, Va.

Although outlawed in all 50 states and at the federal level, Byrd said the practice isn't a sport, but an appalling abuse of animals who rip the flesh off one another while spectators plunk down bets as high as $50,000.

"It is a brutal, sadistic event motivated by barbarism and cruelty," said Byrd, who made his comments on the Senate floor.

"One is left wondering — who are the real animals, the creatures inside or outside the ring?"

While dogfighting hasn't been a state issue, West Virginia lawmakers last winter were asked by the Humane Society to turn cockfighting into a felony, but such a bill never was taken up by a House committee where it was designated.

Byrd described dogfighting as a matter of depravity, saying the so-called "sport" translates into a multimillion-dollar industry that thrives in 40,000 illegal operations across the country.

Undercover agents have discovered wounded dogs with ripped ears, shredded lips, genitals dangling from their scarred bodies, eyes closed shut with swelling and "faces so riddled with punctures so severe that they were barely able to breathe," Byrd said.

Survivors of such canine bloodfests typically succumb within days, even hours, of blood loss, shock, dehydration, exhaustion or infection, Byrd said in his floor speech.

Motivating them to fight entails starvation and beatings, and the presence of smaller animals, such as cats or rabbits to prompt the killing nature, he said, and the post-fight effects reaches far beyond the rings.

"There are cases of dogs trained to kill which have broken loose and mauled human beings to death," Byrd said.

Children exposed to dogfighting are more readily inclined to accept aggressive behavior and this manifests itself in violent attitudes and actions, the senator said.


Mannix Porterfield writes for The Register-Herald in Beckley, W.Va.

You would think senators would have a lot more important things to consider...This shows where their priorities are...

[wisconsinBB]

You would think senators would have a lot more important things to consider...This shows where their priorities are...

Yeah, like baseball.  Im surprised the UN hasnt gotten together to talk about Barry Bonds.

[The True Adonis]

You would think senators would have a lot more important things to consider...This shows where their priorities are...

Again, he was taking up EXTRA time on the Senate Floor.  It was not a congressional hearing.  Senator Byrd is one senator who has opposed the Iraq War way before it started and continues his effort.

[GigantorX]

As much as I am embarrassed for the man and his blubbering, continually repeating himself and being as close to alzheimers as one can get....I do remember listening to his "you can hear a pin drop" speech on the eve of the Iraq Invasion, and as much as I laugh at the man, that speech impressed me.

[Condor]

The declaration of independence is nothing more than a letter to the British.

The Constitution is what GOVERNS the LAND.  IT is the document that MATTERS.

The founding fathers wanted nothing to do with god in it and it was so.

Why are you calling me an asshole?  Because I am correct?

You call me Mr. Copy and Paste, but since when is backing up arguments with factual evidence a bad thing?

There may be no mention about God in the constitution, but it is clearly an underlying influence:



"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." --John Adams, October 11, 1798

[candidate2025]

senator byrd has no problem calling a lack of respect for canines rights dispicable, but back when he was a grandmaster of the KKK, he has a much harder time being able to recognize a race of HUMAN BEINGS rights.

hypocritical, over-aged, simple minded, white man. = must be a politician.

[candidate2025]

There may be no mention about God in the constitution, but it is clearly an underlying influence:



"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." --John Adams, October 11, 1798

that is one mans opinion. if it was true, then we would be in need of a whole new constitution....not an altered religious version of the one we already have.

[candidate2025]

No hes not...Nancy Pelosi is President you dumbass.

do you know the difference between the HOUSE, and the SENATE; between a CONGRESSMAN, and a SENATOR?

[candidate2025]

What is wrong with Michael Moore?

Turned out he was correct with EVERYTHING he put forth in Farahenheit 9/11.  

and now Sicko.   There is not one single fact that is incorrect in the movie.  Check for yourself.  Please post ANY errors that you find.  
You won`t be able to.  Try anyway.  You may just learn something.

I worked for UnitedHealth and know firsthand what they do.

WELL NO, ACTUALLY ADONIS; THERE WERE ALOT OF ERRORS, AND MISREPRESENTATIONS IN FARENHEIT 9/11. MICHAEL MOORE DID IN 9/11 WHAT CHENEY DID IN THE LEAD UP TO THE IRAQ WAR. THEY BOTH USED EVERY SINGLE PEICE OF INFORMATION THAT THEY COULD, EVEN IF THEY PREVIOUSLY KNEW IT TO BE FALSE, OR EVEN IF THE GENERAL CONSENSUC WAS TO THE CONTRARY OF THE POINT......THEY BOTH A HAD A GOAL, AND THEY WANTED IT SO BADLY THAT BOTH USED EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING THEY COULD TO PERSUADE THEIR AUDIENCES INTO BELIEVING IN THEIR ARGUMENT.

(sorry for the caps).

Sicko, in fact, is a much better film for michael moore, because he does not take the "no holds barred, anything to make my point" stance when making it. he sticks to the facts, and lets people tell the story for him, instead of basing it mostly on his own ideas and opinions/dialogue.

part of the reason 9/11 was discredited to the point it was, was because of its many stretched-truths, and mistated facts. even if there WAS alot of truth in it, the presence of the errors made the whole film seem illegitimate.

[candidate2025]

The bigger issues ARE STILL at the forefront.  One is missing though.  Impeachment. Contact Nancy Pelosi, tell her to put impeachment BACK on the table.

impeachement is NOT a political tool Adam. it may be used on cheney; but only if we can PROVE that he lied about his intelligence..if we can PROVE he knew the inteligence he was feeding the american public was faulty. but that willl be hard to do. he mostly used REAL intelligence, but it was just outdated, or freshly denounced.  but bush...there is no way you could be able to impeach him.

[The Ugly]

dogs are better than people.

Then why do they eat poop?

[War-Horse]

Then why do they eat poop?

Packed with fiber and corn...maybe theyre onto something..

[Heywood]

senator byrd has no problem calling a lack of respect for canines rights dispicable, but back when he was a grandmaster of the KKK, he has a much harder time being able to recognize a race of HUMAN BEINGS rights.

hypocritical, over-aged, simple minded, white man. = must be a politician.

Yeah, well maybe so.  But when you start electrocuting dogs, you kind of leave yourself open to a little criticism....