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What would you guys do? (VERY long post)
« on: July 20, 2007, 11:03:46 PM »
I used to be friends with this guy that lives a few miles away from me. He's 31, never had a job, lives in his dads mansion(his mom is dead) and has always been a pillhead. Used to be a fun guy to hang around with, never had to work, one of the best pools I have ever seen, and was a cool guy, not a ladies man by any stretch of the imagination, but I used to go to the bars with him etc. So over the last 2 years he started getting into crack, started small, but obviously the problem grew. A few months ago he met an escort/stripper who was as big as a crackhead as him, I had no clue cuz I wrote him off a long time ago, but I got filled in recently. So, she being the loser she is moves in with him and they run out of money and start selling all of his fathers electronics, jewelry etc. to support the habit. I also found out that he has borrowed thousands from friends and "fronts" and people are after him. So, a few weeks ago his dad throws her out of the house, but seeing as this is one of the first pieces of pussy he has ever had, he leaves with her. They wind up staying at a crackhouse(not like in the movies, it was a decent house). He actually called me last Saturday night for the first time in over a year and asked me to pick him up from this place and take him for a drink. So I go over there, but got stuck there for a while because he lent his car to crack dealers for a rock. Now, I know nothing of this sort of life, but other than the people there being totally worthless and asking me for money I had no problems really, the guy that owned the house was cool enough, I suppose. We go for a drink eventually and after about a half hour he was getting anxious or whatever and needed to get dropped off back there. I just figured fuck him, he was too far gone and I don't really give a fuck. A few days later he supposedly stole 70 klonopins from the guy that owned the house(who just got out of jail after 30 years) and was "in hiding" because the guy wanted to kill him. So he couldn't go home because the girl who took the homeowners side knows where his dad lived. His dad winds up calling me and I agree to go to the guys house and I paid him 140 bucks for the missing Klonopin so he wouldn't be in danger. So his dad gets him home and wants to get him help, so he calls the Methadone clinic, but they cant see him till Monday, so his old man actually bought him like 15 vikes so he would withdrawl too bad. Anyway, so after he lent his car out for crack his dad obviously won't let him use it now and he calls me today and sounds like he is doing better. He asks if I will take him for a drink, and I said no problem. I did call his dad though and he asked me to do three things, not let him use my cell to call that filthy whore, make sure I take him home and of course not let him buy any crack or coke(even though he had no money or CC's). So, we go out and it was fine for a while, but she kept texting me to come pick her up(she doesn't have a car either ::)) and he wanted to call her. I actually let him call her cuz I didn't see the harm, but I heard him say he was going to get a cab to come see her or some bullshit. I told him I was taking him home at 2 and he was kind of a dick about it. His dad actually called me at about 11 to see how he was doing and I walked outside to talk to him and when I came back he was on some dudes cell phone asking someone to bring him up a "50 bag" and he would pay him back on Monday. At that point I knew I wasn't capable of babysitting the dude and I promised his father, who I respect that I wouldn't let anything happen to him. So I told him I was taking him home and he told me he wasn't living by anyones rules and he was going to get high and meeting whats her name, fuck his dad etc. So I did what I thought was right, called his dad and he was up there in 10 minutes and made him go home with him. He actually cried and said something like "I don't know what Leann is doing out there,she could be with another guy, please dad don't make me go home", he almost sounded like a retard. He called me from his house phone while I was typing this and is crying and telling me he has a problem(no shit ::)), and even though I know I did the right thing, I am not one to snitch on someone. It's not like I even like the dude, he is 31 years old and too brain dead to attempt to live on his own. I just feel bad for snitching him out, if you actually read this Kiwi-esque post, was I wrong? What would you do?
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Re: What would you guys do? (VERY long post)
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2007, 11:14:35 PM »
Dude, I read the whole thing. You were never wrong one second.

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Re: What would you guys do? (VERY long post)
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2007, 11:22:38 PM »
Dude, I read the whole thing. You were never wrong one second.

Thanks, his dad just called me, he snuck out the doorwall in the basement. He's on foot, with no cell phone or money going God knows where. I would go look for the fuckin guy, but I have no clue where crackheads hang out at. I just feel bad for his Dad.
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Re: What would you guys do? (VERY long post)
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2007, 11:30:42 PM »
You did the right thing. it's obvious the guy has no other real friends... don't give up on him just yet.

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Re: What would you guys do? (VERY long post)
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2007, 11:37:12 PM »
You did the right thing. it's obvious the guy has no other real friends... don't give up on him just yet.

Yeah, the guy has no friends really. His whore of a gf just called me and she got kicked out of the crackhouse as well and asked me to come see her at the hotel she is staying at. ::) Like I would 1, go hang out with a hooker and 2, go fuck my buddies girlfriend. She also mentioned that she is worried about how she is going to eat or whatever the next couple of days, I wonder why she called me ::)
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Re: What would you guys do? (VERY long post)
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2007, 11:38:11 PM »
Thanks, his dad just called me, he snuck out the doorwall in the basement. He's on foot, with no cell phone or money going God knows where. I would go look for the fuckin guy, but I have no clue where crackheads hang out at. I just feel bad for his Dad.

I know exactly how you feel. I've been in a very similar situation, just replace the dad by a mom and the dude by an ex piece of nice pussy I used to maintain, and the crack shit by coke..

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Re: What would you guys do? (VERY long post)
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2007, 11:58:35 PM »
Yeah, the guy has no friends really. His whore of a gf just called me and she got kicked out of the crackhouse as well and asked me to come see her at the hotel she is staying at. ::) Like I would 1, go hang out with a hooker and 2, go fuck my buddies girlfriend. She also mentioned that she is worried about how she is going to eat or whatever the next couple of days, I wonder why she called me ::)

IMO, you're right in keeping your distance from her... There's no "history" or friendship with her.. She'll turn a trick and have the funds for accomodation and food..

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Re: What would you guys do? (VERY long post)
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2007, 08:25:01 AM »
You didn't do anything wrong. Situations like these are frustrating because there's not a fucking thing you can do to help. He has to want it, no one can impose sobriety on him. Also, considering your adventures... maybe you over identify with him and feel cutting ties would be rejecting a part of your past. 

Just be sure which battle you're fighting when making decisions about this situation.

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Re: What would you guys do? (VERY long post)
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2007, 11:25:37 AM »
You didn't do anything wrong. Situations like these are frustrating because there's not a fucking thing you can do to help. He has to want it, no one can impose sobriety on him. Also, considering your adventures... maybe you over identify with him and feel cutting ties would be rejecting a part of your past. 

Just be sure which battle you're fighting when making decisions about this situation.

I identify with the guy in the sense that I take prescription drugs and occasionally do blow. I would never smoke crack personally, nor would I ever steal from anyone for any reason. That doesn't make me better than him, it's just one thing I can't imagine doing. I do see your point though Doc. And I agree about him not getting better unless he wants to. I honestly thought after his dad kicked him out of the house and he lived in squalor for a few weeks and had his life threatened, yet his dad took him back home and tried to help him, it would be a wake up call. I guess some peoples desire for drugs is higher than I ever imagined.
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Re: What would you guys do? (VERY long post)
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2007, 12:05:16 PM »
dude you did the right thing,but as much as the general population thinks there is hope for people like that ,there isn't.i deal with people like that everyday at work

hell one guy i arrested two years ago while i was still in the DEA for manufacturing meth (and using) he got clean in jail.three days later after he got out he was strung out again.so i arrested him on a PI and now he is back in jail on probation violations .i know it is just my opinion and i know they are not all hopeless but if this guy is 31 and has no real life experiences i think he is only going to get worse.

but i wouldn't completely wright the guy off,because everyone needs someone they can turn to,and to him you maybe that person.

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Re: What would you guys do? (VERY long post)
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2007, 03:15:19 PM »
dude you did the right thing,but as much as the general population thinks there is hope for people like that ,there isn't.i deal with people like that everyday at work

hell one guy i arrested two years ago while i was still in the DEA for manufacturing meth (and using) he got clean in jail.three days later after he got out he was strung out again.so i arrested him on a PI and now he is back in jail on probation violations .i know it is just my opinion and i know they are not all hopeless but if this guy is 31 and has no real life experiences i think he is only going to get worse.

but i wouldn't completely wright the guy off,because everyone needs someone they can turn to,and to him you maybe that person.

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Yeah, I agree with you totally. I don't see this thing turning out well for the guy. His dad is too rich and more importantly too generous with him. He may be cut out of cash for a week or so, but as soon as daddy gives him money, it's going to be smoked up. The only thing I see that can help someone that bad off is a job, family, responsibilities etc. But who is gonna marry a crackhead? I went with his father and got him out of some trailer and back home and I feel like that is the end of my responsibility with the guy. Hopefully he cleans his act up, but I doubt it.
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Re: What would you guys do? (VERY long post)
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2007, 07:00:37 AM »
So after I went to the crack "trailer" and made him come home to his dads house, he called a mutual friend and said he was going to hire a guy from Pontiac to shoot me >:( I called him to see if it were true and he actually had the balls to say that I had no right to mess with his life and I embarrassed him by calling his dad. He told me doesn't need anyone in his life except his girlfriend(who can't stand the guy) and admitted to saying that he did say he was going to have me shot, but probably wouldn't do it. So I did what any other real man would do. When his girlfriend called me I told her to meet me up at the bar, then took her home and fucked her in every hole. Better yet, I am going to send him this link. :D Hey Jay, I included her myspace pic that you had sent me and took a couple of new ones. She's not a bad piece of pussy, not as hot as I would like, but it was worth it knowing you will bawl like a baby when you see it. Oh, and you should lay low you little crackhead, you might not want to run into me.
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Re: What would you guys do? (VERY long post)
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2007, 07:11:14 AM »
She looks a bit like Melissa D would without the androgens.

I'd hit it a few more times to make him suffer.

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Re: What would you guys do? (VERY long post)
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2007, 07:16:06 AM »
She looks a bit like Melissa D would without the androgens.

I'd hit it a few more times to make him suffer.

Well, she is under the impression we are going out tonight,not sure if she is smart enough to realize I don't even like her as a person ::) I did it for one reason only, cuz the guy threatened to have me killed >:(
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Re: What would you guys do? (VERY long post)
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2007, 07:18:29 AM »
Well, she is under the impression we are going out tonight,not sure if she is smart enough to realize I don't even like her as a person ::) I did it for one reason only, cuz the guy threatened to have me killed >:(

Fuck her a few more times for shits and giggles.

You may have to whoop his ass for good measure. Only bad thing about that is that he'll have another chance to play the victem role. Not sure if you want to do him any more favors.

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Re: What would you guys do? (VERY long post)
« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2007, 07:22:03 AM »
Fuck her a few more times for shits and giggles.

You may have to whoop his ass for good measure. Only bad thing about that is that he'll have another chance to play the victem role. Not sure if you want to do him any more favors.

Fuck her a few more times for shits and giggles.- yep!

You may have to whoop his ass for good measure.-YEP

Not sure if you want to do him any more favors.-Fuxk him!
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Re: What would you guys do? (VERY long post)
« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2007, 07:24:43 AM »
Dude,

We really didn't need to see your wiener, LOL!

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Re: What would you guys do? (VERY long post)
« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2007, 04:20:17 PM »
Dude,

We really didn't need to see your wiener, LOL!

where ???
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Re: What would you guys do? (VERY long post)
« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2007, 09:46:19 PM »
So after I went to the crack "trailer" and made him come home to his dads house, he called a mutual friend and said he was going to hire a guy from Pontiac to shoot me >:( I called him to see if it were true and he actually had the balls to say that I had no right to mess with his life and I embarrassed him by calling his dad. He told me doesn't need anyone in his life except his girlfriend(who can't stand the guy) and admitted to saying that he did say he was going to have me shot, but probably wouldn't do it. So I did what any other real man would do. When his girlfriend called me I told her to meet me up at the bar, then took her home and fucked her in every hole. Better yet, I am going to send him this link. :D Hey Jay, I included her myspace pic that you had sent me and took a couple of new ones. She's not a bad piece of pussy, not as hot as I would like, but it was worth it knowing you will bawl like a baby when you see it. Oh, and you should lay low you little crackhead, you might not want to run into me.

Hate you tell you man but I am the guy from Ponticrack that is going to shoot you.  Just kidding.
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Re: What would you guys do? (VERY long post)
« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2007, 10:09:44 PM »
that crackhead doesn't look to bad.

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Re: What would you guys do? (VERY long post)
« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2007, 07:25:22 AM »
that crackhead doesn't look to bad.

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Re: What would you guys do? (VERY long post)
« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2007, 12:50:51 PM »
I used to be friends with this guy that lives a few miles away from me. He's 31, never had a job, lives in his dads mansion(his mom is dead) and has always been a pillhead. Used to be a fun guy to hang around with, never had to work, one of the best pools I have ever seen, and was a cool guy, not a ladies man by any stretch of the imagination, but I used to go to the bars with him etc. So over the last 2 years he started getting into crack, started small, but obviously the problem grew. A few months ago he met an escort/stripper who was as big as a crackhead as him, I had no clue cuz I wrote him off a long time ago, but I got filled in recently. So, she being the loser she is moves in with him and they run out of money and start selling all of his fathers electronics, jewelry etc. to support the habit. I also found out that he has borrowed thousands from friends and "fronts" and people are after him. So, a few weeks ago his dad throws her out of the house, but seeing as this is one of the first pieces of pussy he has ever had, he leaves with her. They wind up staying at a crackhouse(not like in the movies, it was a decent house). He actually called me last Saturday night for the first time in over a year and asked me to pick him up from this place and take him for a drink. So I go over there, but got stuck there for a while because he lent his car to crack dealers for a rock. Now, I know nothing of this sort of life, but other than the people there being totally worthless and asking me for money I had no problems really, the guy that owned the house was cool enough, I suppose. We go for a drink eventually and after about a half hour he was getting anxious or whatever and needed to get dropped off back there. I just figured fuck him, he was too far gone and I don't really give a fuck. A few days later he supposedly stole 70 klonopins from the guy that owned the house(who just got out of jail after 30 years) and was "in hiding" because the guy wanted to kill him. So he couldn't go home because the girl who took the homeowners side knows where his dad lived. His dad winds up calling me and I agree to go to the guys house and I paid him 140 bucks for the missing Klonopin so he wouldn't be in danger. So his dad gets him home and wants to get him help, so he calls the Methadone clinic, but they cant see him till Monday, so his old man actually bought him like 15 vikes so he would withdrawl too bad. Anyway, so after he lent his car out for crack his dad obviously won't let him use it now and he calls me today and sounds like he is doing better. He asks if I will take him for a drink, and I said no problem. I did call his dad though and he asked me to do three things, not let him use my cell to call that filthy whore, make sure I take him home and of course not let him buy any crack or coke(even though he had no money or CC's). So, we go out and it was fine for a while, but she kept texting me to come pick her up(she doesn't have a car either ::)) and he wanted to call her. I actually let him call her cuz I didn't see the harm, but I heard him say he was going to get a cab to come see her or some bullshit. I told him I was taking him home at 2 and he was kind of a dick about it. His dad actually called me at about 11 to see how he was doing and I walked outside to talk to him and when I came back he was on some dudes cell phone asking someone to bring him up a "50 bag" and he would pay him back on Monday. At that point I knew I wasn't capable of babysitting the dude and I promised his father, who I respect that I wouldn't let anything happen to him. So I told him I was taking him home and he told me he wasn't living by anyones rules and he was going to get high and meeting whats her name, fuck his dad etc. So I did what I thought was right, called his dad and he was up there in 10 minutes and made him go home with him. He actually cried and said something like "I don't know what Leann is doing out there,she could be with another guy, please dad don't make me go home", he almost sounded like a retard. He called me from his house phone while I was typing this and is crying and telling me he has a problem(no shit ::)), and even though I know I did the right thing, I am not one to snitch on someone. It's not like I even like the dude, he is 31 years old and too brain dead to attempt to live on his own. I just feel bad for snitching him out, if you actually read this Kiwi-esque post, was I wrong? What would you do?

I live by a fairly simple rule:  you can't change a grown adult so don't bother trying.   If you choose to help someone so be it, but when it comes to drug addicts I have no pity.   If they truly want to change it'll be evident in their behavior...that's the point I'd offer a hand.   Until then they're none of my concern.