im not concerned with what most juiced bbers do... or anyone...
unpumped my arms are just under 19... coming from 12 inches
i dont put a cap on my potential...
if it is possible for me to do so naturally i will.. and i think it is very possible..
i dont read into all the formulas and numbers... and all that crap i make my own rules and do my own thing...
if life permits and i have no life threatening health issues.. i will get it thats the way i think..
and thats why (along with genes) i have made such good gains over the years