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Re: VAN HALEN IS BACK BITCHES!!!!
« Reply #25 on: August 21, 2007, 11:56:56 AM »
Natrual Al, do you like DLR's solo work? Personally i think his earlier stuff [with Vai] is far superior to VH.

Why did Roth never become a movie star or something? Post 91 he just kind of disappeared - a tragedy for someone so charismatic and fun. Its a real shame.

I've got all of Dave's solo stuff in one form or another except diamond Dave because the only time I actually saw it on cd it was 25 bucks.  Dave's first disk was very good.  Vai and Sheehan are awsome but to me it sounds like Diver Down part II.  VH moved in a different direction when Dave left and I understand why some poeple don't like it, I do.  5150 is an incredible album to me, don't know if it's cause I was 13 when it came out or what but I never, ever get tired of it.  Skyscraper, to me sounds like DAve saying "holy shit, I basically made a Van halen record with Eat em and Smile and it sold a 2 million copies.....Van Halen changed everything and sold 3 million right off the bat, had a top 5 single, tons of songs on the radio and the 2nd biggest tour of the year..I gotta sound like them" and that's what he did.  Skyscraper has a couple of great songs on it like Hina and Vai is on fire for it but it's so over produced it just sounds cheesey...which is funny cause OU812 is so under produced it sounds terrible on a sonic level.  By the time A little Aint Enough came out Vai was gone, sheehan was long gone and I think Dave was really panicking cause VH was just kicking his ass.  OU812 and 5150 were HUGE in terms of sales, singles, tours...everything.  ALAE has some good stuff on it but overall I dont' really dig it, Drop in the Bucket is probably one of the best songs Dave's ever done on his own but aside form that the disk is-to me-forgetable.  VH released another HUGE disk with FUCK and that pretty much did DAve in.....everything he's done since then has been a joke.  DLR Band has great guitar work from John Lowry but aside from that Dave sounds like garbage and his lyrics are a joke, Blacksand gets alot of praise but I dont' get it.......

I've got boots of all his tours and have seen him 4 or 5 times as a solo artist and I honestly don't think he can sing anymore, Hagar buried him IMO on the Sam and Dave tour but hey.....that's just my opinion.
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Re: VAN HALEN IS BACK BITCHES!!!!
« Reply #26 on: August 21, 2007, 12:01:49 PM »
IT will generate plenty of money,and somehow the mixing board will be busy to blend the sound to sound somewhat like vintage VH.one can only hope that it dosen't turn into an embaressment,can it?

I think the name of a site is guitars101, they have a soundboard recording of a show from september on the last tour with Sammy, Now Sammy can't sing like he did in 86 but he can still sing, Mike and Alex were fine but Ed is so incredibly bad it's not even funny.  There are parts of it where I have no idea what the hell he's doing....I can just see the looks from the other guys like "WTF?"  his solo is embarrasing, his backing vocals suck and when he talks he's so plastered it's not even funny.

combine that with Dave who really isn't what he was back in 86 when he talked his way through songs and an enexperienced wolfgang and you've got a recipe for disaster.

Dave might pull it off, lord knows he's waited years for this, Al will be fine but if Ed sounds anything like he did in 04 this tour is gonna bomb.

it's actually not selling all that great from what I hear but I haven't really looked into it.
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Re: VAN HALEN IS BACK BITCHES!!!!
« Reply #27 on: August 21, 2007, 06:24:51 PM »
i am and always have been a big fan of VH. but after hearing all the bullshit going on with Ed i dont think i wanna go see them play.
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Re: VAN HALEN IS BACK BITCHES!!!!
« Reply #28 on: August 21, 2007, 07:18:44 PM »
wikipedia said as of aug 21 fall tour is cancelled sighting problem with wolfgang ,anyone confirm it?does anyone believe a clean and sober eddie playing his ass off again?i guess if you want to here eddie at his best watch or listen to live here right now live i have cd and dvd ,solo is unreal.

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Re: VAN HALEN IS BACK BITCHES!!!!
« Reply #29 on: August 22, 2007, 06:10:24 AM »
Toronto might add a thrid show. Tickets are selling fast. Your right about Ed playing in 04, just terrible. You can hear some of it on youtube, he's playing chords and notes that don't belong anywhere in the song their playing. Dave can't sing anymore, his throat is done. Can you provide a specific link to some of Ed's playing in 04, I want to hear some more, it's like watching a train wreck.

I'll post the link when i get home, they've got tons of boots there.  I'm listening to Japan 89 right now....great show, they actually released this in Japan as a tV special so the quality is great.  Ed's playing for the most part in 04 was terrible, the rest of the guys were fine, Ed was OK on some nights but nothing like what he's capable of.  The show that I have that's soundboard is from Atlanta, I think the date on it is 9/17/04, it's the direct feed to Ed's monitor so there's not alot of bass but other than that it's good quality. 

I don't think I've ever seen a band fuck up as much as VH has in the last 12 years, it's just a mess.  The tour with Dave.......I don't even know where to start, it's gonna end bad.  Take everything these guys say with a grain of salt, they said the same stuff about Sammy in 04 "we love each other now", "we're gonna record a new cd"....blah, blah, blah.



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Re: VAN HALEN IS BACK BITCHES!!!!
« Reply #30 on: August 22, 2007, 08:00:42 AM »
I'll post the link when i get home, they've got tons of boots there.  I'm listening to Japan 89 right now....great show, they actually released this in Japan as a tV special so the quality is great.  Ed's playing for the most part in 04 was terrible, the rest of the guys were fine, Ed was OK on some nights but nothing like what he's capable of.  The show that I have that's soundboard is from Atlanta, I think the date on it is 9/17/04, it's the direct feed to Ed's monitor so there's not alot of bass but other than that it's good quality. 

I don't think I've ever seen a band fuck up as much as VH has in the last 12 years, it's just a mess.  The tour with Dave.......I don't even know where to start, it's gonna end bad.  Take everything these guys say with a grain of salt, they said the same stuff about Sammy in 04 "we love each other now", "we're gonna record a new cd"....blah, blah, blah.





Thanks for that guitar101 site. I thought I've seen just about all the live videos there are of Van Halen (with Roth) but theres a ton of great stuff I've found there that I never new exsisted. Some it is close to pro quality but has never made it to the general public, I don't get it.

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Re: VAN HALEN IS BACK BITCHES!!!!
« Reply #31 on: August 22, 2007, 12:09:37 PM »
Thanks for that guitar101 site. I thought I've seen just about all the live videos there are of Van Halen (with Roth) but theres a ton of great stuff I've found there that I never new exsisted. Some it is close to pro quality but has never made it to the general public, I don't get it.

the band is very againts releasing stuff that they feel is not up to snuff quality wise.  If you look on youtube there were 3 video's shot for Van Halen 1, then they did a few for Don Kischner's show from VHII, a couple of lip sink performances for WACF, 3 live vids for Fair Warning and then it kinda stops for the Dave era.  Live Without a Net is an incredible performance by everyone, they shot a vid in Japan in 89 and it's great.  The Right Here Right Now vid is "ok" at best, it's way over-edited and hard to watch.  The band did a PPV special in 95 that's pretty good if not great.

I've got TONS of live vids from every tour but they're on video cassette and I've got tons of live recordings from 74-95...probably about 200 or so.....

They recorded shows for a live album on a few tours, I know they recorded in 81 or were set to record but Dave screwed Al's wife-who was also named Valarie and when Ed heard about it he took a swing at Dave and Dave ducked and Ed punched a wall messing up his hand ::)

they recorded shows in 84, 86 gave us Live without a net, 89 had shows recorded and 91 did as well....

anyway, there's some great stuff out there if you look for it.
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