Bodybuilding needs to be drug tested.

[GroinkTropin]

It has come to this and must, bbing is not just dying it is dissapearing, and it's only salvation lies in testing for steroids. Bodybuilders are like americans in general, if you let people eat waht they want they eat excessively. Let bodybuilders take what they want and their obsession will feed itself to become almost suicidal. I keep hearing people say without freaks fans won't go to contests, but they ALREADY don't! Most of the money in bodybuilding is being made from supplement sales anyway, and let's be honest pros could sell supps BETTER if they could legitimately claim their results are from xyz products correct? If you take a look at genetics, advances in training etc, a good bodybuilder can be pretty big on some gh slin (both of which cannot be tested for) and maybe a little test. The genetic freaks and those who train the hardest will still look damn good, and without a drug crutch we as a whole will be forced to explore new areas of diet/training science to improve. There are secrets noone is even looking for anymore, everyone just takes more shit when they need to get bigger it is getting out of hand. One thing that I notice now more than ever is that females are totally turned off by bodybuilding. You can say that doesn't matter but you KNOW it fucking does! Let's be real here physiques like derek anthony GET pussy, your ronnie colemans and shit turn it away and how many men (straight men anyway) want to chase pussy away? Let's be honest with ourselves and discuss. Also with all these recent deaths in the sports world, the strongman couple wrestlers etc, it's only a matter of time before the FBI deals a death blow like they did with GHB.  Remember when monster's house got raided, and the feds arrested over 100 people in one fucking day over a 2 year investigation? G has been almost impossible to find ever since. If they want steroids gone they can do it, and we can head them off, or ignore the warning signs and face the consequences.

[Stu]

Yeah, and posts need to have paragraphs too but hey what can ya do?

[Captain Equipoise]

Are you joking me ?!?! this is what the premiere 'natural' tested physique is gonna look like..



ALL HAIL YOUR NEW MR.OLYMPIA!

[Stark]

Great vacuum pose right there.

[DK II]

Great vacuum pose right there.

Yes, not a lot who can do it nowadays.

[hazbin]

Are you joking me ?!?! this is what the premiere 'natural' tested physique is gonna look like..



ALL HAIL YOUR NEW MR.OLYMPIA!

another natural with gh jaw and elbows!!

[flexingtonsteele]

wow have u ever heard of  PARAGRAPHS!

thats way too long to read.

It has come to this and must, bbing is not just dying it is dissapearing, and it's only salvation lies in testing for steroids. Bodybuilders are like americans in general, if you let people eat waht they want they eat excessively. Let bodybuilders take what they want and their obsession will feed itself to become almost suicidal. I keep hearing people say without freaks fans won't go to contests, but they ALREADY don't! Most of the money in bodybuilding is being made from supplement sales anyway, and let's be honest pros could sell supps BETTER if they could legitimately claim their results are from xyz products correct? If you take a look at genetics, advances in training etc, a good bodybuilder can be pretty big on some gh slin (both of which cannot be tested for) and maybe a little test. The genetic freaks and those who train the hardest will still look damn good, and without a drug crutch we as a whole will be forced to explore new areas of diet/training science to improve. There are secrets noone is even looking for anymore, everyone just takes more shit when they need to get bigger it is getting out of hand. One thing that I notice now more than ever is that females are totally turned off by bodybuilding. You can say that doesn't matter but you KNOW it fucking does! Let's be real here physiques like derek anthony GET pussy, your ronnie colemans and shit turn it away and how many men (straight men anyway) want to chase pussy away? Let's be honest with ourselves and discuss. Also with all these recent deaths in the sports world, the strongman couple wrestlers etc, it's only a matter of time before the FBI deals a death blow like they did with GHB.  Remember when monster's house got raided, and the feds arrested over 100 people in one fucking day over a 2 year investigation? G has been almost impossible to find ever since. If they want steroids gone they can do it, and we can head them off, or ignore the warning signs and face the consequences.

[BM OUT]

Anthony has admitted to steroid use on many occasions.Not sure what "getting pussy" has to do with competitive bodybuilding.Some of us think drug testing is a total violation of civil rights.Its the last thing ANY sport needs.

[Hedgehog]

Lets try this one more time:


It has come to this and must, bbing is not just dying it is dissapearing, and it's only salvation lies in testing for steroids. Bodybuilders are like americans in general, if you let people eat waht they want they eat excessively.

Let bodybuilders take what they want and their obsession will feed itself to become almost suicidal. I keep hearing people say without freaks fans won't go to contests, but they ALREADY don't!

Most of the money in bodybuilding is being made from supplement sales anyway, and let's be honest pros could sell supps BETTER if they could legitimately claim their results are from xyz products correct?

If you take a look at genetics, advances in training etc, a good bodybuilder can be pretty big on some gh slin (both of which cannot be tested for) and maybe a little test. The genetic freaks and those who train the hardest will still look damn good, and without a drug crutch we as a whole will be forced to explore new areas of diet/training science to improve.

There are secrets noone is even looking for anymore, everyone just takes more shit when they need to get bigger it is getting out of hand.

One thing that I notice now more than ever is that females are totally turned off by bodybuilding. You can say that doesn't matter but you KNOW it fucking does! Let's be real here physiques like derek anthony GET pussy, your ronnie colemans and shit turn it away and how many men (straight men anyway) want to chase pussy away? Let's be honest with ourselves and discuss.

Also with all these recent deaths in the sports world, the strongman couple wrestlers etc, it's only a matter of time before the FBI deals a death blow like they did with GHB.  Remember when monster's house got raided, and the feds arrested over 100 people in one fucking day over a 2 year investigation? G has been almost impossible to find ever since.

If they want steroids gone they can do it, and we can head them off, or ignore the warning signs and face the consequences.

[Hedgehog]

Anthony has admitted to steroid use on many occasions.Not sure what "getting pussy" has to do with competitive bodybuilding.Some of us think drug testing is a total violation of civil rights.Its the last thing ANY sport needs.

There are IMO two aspects on this Mimnaugh. Bear with me:

Thing is, if a sports fed decides that they want to have it drugfree, and drug testing to uphold that status, it's the prerogative of that very federation.

You can always chose to not compete in that federation, it's not a civil right to compete in a federation, you do it under certain conditions.

That's why I can respect those who decides not to ever compete in USAPL/IPF, instead of trying to cheat, and then jump federation when getting caught.

Then there is the legal aspect: Whether or not AAS should be legal, or at least available for private use, is a different matter, and I won't get into that. I will say this though: I think it's hypocritical that a lot of those who use aren't speaking up for making steroids legal, or at least trying to give their opinion of how the stuff isn't harmful.

Of course you Mimnaugh, being an exception. You are a lot of things, but you're definitely not a cheater or a hypocrit.

[DK II]

In germany, the so called "classic bodybuilding" class in competitions gets more and more competitors, while heavyweights stay empty.

The "rules" are bodyheight in cm - 100 + xkg.

-170cm +2kg
-175cm +4kg
-180cm +6kg
+180cm +8kg

still no drug test, but at least they don't look like freak with distended guts.

[Beener]

females are totally turned off by bodybuilding. You can say that doesn't matter but you KNOW it fucking does! Let's be real here physiques like derek anthony GET pussy, your ronnie colemans and shit turn it away and how many men (straight men anyway) want to chase pussy away?

Dude firstly most men are man enough not to just try and get bigfor pussy. What kinda pussy starved bitch does that? BOdybuilders get big for themselves, czu they fuckin love bein bigger than everyone and biggerthan what they were etc. Pussy has nothin to do with it. I guess when you're shopping at Le Chateau you're tryin to figure out which miniskirt will attract more chicks eh?

And as for your first sentance, bodybuilding isn't dying, its pretty big in fact.

[Hedgehog]

In germany, the so called "classic bodybuilding" class in competitions gets more and more competitors, while heavyweights stay empty.

The "rules" are bodyheight in cm - 100 + xkg.

-170cm +2kg
-175cm +4kg
-180cm +6kg
+180cm +8kg

still no drug test, but at least they don't look like freak with distended guts.

Getting big in Scandinavia as well.

IMO, it will probably be the biggest thing in Europe in 5 years, and the only thing that could save PDI is if they catch on to this thing.

Would expect it to hit USA in 3-4 years.

[DK II]

Getting big in Scandinavia as well.

IMO, it will probably be the biggest thing in Europe in 5 years, and the only thing that could save PDI is if they catch on to this thing.

Would expect it to hit USA in 3-4 years.

Yup, then "naturals" like Scott Markey have a future. (To be true, it's even okay people are still arguing if he is natural or not, not like guys like Ronnie or Jay, where everybody just argues about if they take 5g of roids and other stuff per week or 50g. )

I think it's a good thing that there could even be a slight chance of achieving something without huge amounts of drugs.

[musclehedz]

It has come to this and must, bbing is not just dying it is dissapearing, and it's only salvation lies in testing for steroids. Bodybuilders are like americans in general, if you let people eat waht they want they eat excessively. Let bodybuilders take what they want and their obsession will feed itself to become almost suicidal. I keep hearing people say without freaks fans won't go to contests, but they ALREADY don't! Most of the money in bodybuilding is being made from supplement sales anyway, and let's be honest pros could sell supps BETTER if they could legitimately claim their results are from xyz products correct? If you take a look at genetics, advances in training etc, a good bodybuilder can be pretty big on some gh slin (both of which cannot be tested for) and maybe a little test. The genetic freaks and those who train the hardest will still look damn good, and without a drug crutch we as a whole will be forced to explore new areas of diet/training science to improve. There are secrets noone is even looking for anymore, everyone just takes more shit when they need to get bigger it is getting out of hand. One thing that I notice now more than ever is that females are totally turned off by bodybuilding. You can say that doesn't matter but you KNOW it fucking does! Let's be real here physiques like derek anthony GET pussy, your ronnie colemans and shit turn it away and how many men (straight men anyway) want to chase pussy away? Let's be honest with ourselves and discuss. Also with all these recent deaths in the sports world, the strongman couple wrestlers etc, it's only a matter of time before the FBI deals a death blow like they did with GHB.  Remember when monster's house got raided, and the feds arrested over 100 people in one fucking day over a 2 year investigation? G has been almost impossible to find ever since. If they want steroids gone they can do it, and we can head them off, or ignore the warning signs and face the consequences.

You are on crack dude. Real natural bodybuilders (no hgh/slin etc.) look like shit when on low bodyfat. They don't have round muscles and lack size.

And still, tests don't say shit. I can take EVERYTHING I WANT and be clean when tested. It's not too hard nowadays to get it out of your system fast. Look at roger federer for example, been tested loads of times and not yet busted. Same goes for agassi/sampras/mcenroe who admitted they were on.

[Playboy]

It has come to this and must, bbing is not just dying it is dissapearing, and it's only salvation lies in testing for steroids. Bodybuilders are like americans in general, if you let people eat waht they want they eat excessively. Let bodybuilders take what they want and their obsession will feed itself to become almost suicidal. I keep hearing people say without freaks fans won't go to contests, but they ALREADY don't! Most of the money in bodybuilding is being made from supplement sales anyway, and let's be honest pros could sell supps BETTER if they could legitimately claim their results are from xyz products correct? If you take a look at genetics, advances in training etc, a good bodybuilder can be pretty big on some gh slin (both of which cannot be tested for) and maybe a little test. The genetic freaks and those who train the hardest will still look damn good, and without a drug crutch we as a whole will be forced to explore new areas of diet/training science to improve. There are secrets noone is even looking for anymore, everyone just takes more shit when they need to get bigger it is getting out of hand. One thing that I notice now more than ever is that females are totally turned off by bodybuilding. You can say that doesn't matter but you KNOW it fucking does! Let's be real here physiques like derek anthony GET pussy, your ronnie colemans and shit turn it away and how many men (straight men anyway) want to chase pussy away? Let's be honest with ourselves and discuss. Also with all these recent deaths in the sports world, the strongman couple wrestlers etc, it's only a matter of time before the FBI deals a death blow like they did with GHB.  Remember when monster's house got raided, and the feds arrested over 100 people in one fucking day over a 2 year investigation? G has been almost impossible to find ever since. If they want steroids gone they can do it, and we can head them off, or ignore the warning signs and face the consequences.

That will never happen or the bbdg bldg doors would close permanantly. Over. The end.

[Hedgehog]

You are on crack dude. Real natural bodybuilders (no hgh/slin etc.) look like shit when on low bodyfat. They don't have round muscles and lack size.

And still, tests don't say shit. I can take EVERYTHING I WANT and be clean when tested. It's not too hard nowadays to get it out of your system fast. Look at roger federer for example, been tested loads of times and not yet busted. Same goes for agassi/sampras/mcenroe who admitted they were on.

Yeah, sure looks juiced...

[BM OUT]

The idea that the government could get rid of steroids if they wanted to is absurd.They have wasted billions on the war on drugs and yet,in my neighborhood when you stop at a traffic light three guys come up to your window and ask "what do you need".Recreational drugs are easier to get then ever yet our government has spent multiple miliions on locking up drug dealers and users.Our government is as impotent as a 95 year old man in stopping any illegal behavior,especially when you consider that the very people writing the laws cant even follow the laws they write themselves.

[nycbull]

Everyone keeps saying the bodybuilding is dying, blah blah blah.....Where is the PROOF.

Is attendance at shows down?,

Are magazine sales down?

Are gym memberships down?

Are supplements sales down?   

Are book sales on bodybuilding down?

Where are the stats dude?

[adipo8]

Lets try this one more time:


It has come to this and must, bbing is not just dying it is dissapearing, and it's only salvation lies in testing for steroids. Bodybuilders are like americans in general, if you let people eat waht they want they eat excessively.

Let bodybuilders take what they want and their obsession will feed itself to become almost suicidal. I keep hearing people say without freaks fans won't go to contests, but they ALREADY don't!

Most of the money in bodybuilding is being made from supplement sales anyway, and let's be honest pros could sell supps BETTER if they could legitimately claim their results are from xyz products correct?

If you take a look at genetics, advances in training etc, a good bodybuilder can be pretty big on some gh slin (both of which cannot be tested for) and maybe a little test. The genetic freaks and those who train the hardest will still look damn good, and without a drug crutch we as a whole will be forced to explore new areas of diet/training science to improve.

There are secrets noone is even looking for anymore, everyone just takes more shit when they need to get bigger it is getting out of hand.

One thing that I notice now more than ever is that females are totally turned off by bodybuilding. You can say that doesn't matter but you KNOW it fucking does! Let's be real here physiques like derek anthony GET pussy, your ronnie colemans and shit turn it away and how many men (straight men anyway) want to chase pussy away? Let's be honest with ourselves and discuss.

Also with all these recent deaths in the sports world, the strongman couple wrestlers etc, it's only a matter of time before the FBI deals a death blow like they did with GHB.  Remember when monster's house got raided, and the feds arrested over 100 people in one fucking day over a 2 year investigation? G has been almost impossible to find ever since.

If they want steroids gone they can do it, and we can head them off, or ignore the warning signs and face the consequences.

Next you will be saying sterioids make you hit homeruns.

Listen - each generation has it's drugs and the police that try to police it

30-50 - alcohol and cocanie

50's- 70 - speed and weed

70- 90's steroids

90- to present - all of them

Babe ruth was Booed when he came to the plate - half Drunk , Hank aaron was booed cause he was black and Barry cause he hasn't been caught - Al drugs have a shelf life and leave the body sooner or later-

If you are a GROWN MAN - you should be able to take what ever you want with a perscription. GH - is not a drug it is 191 amino acids which is the building block of the body - after a certain age your body reduces it's normal amount. Using it is benefical. If you are fat and you take a steriod to increases your size you are going to look fat and muscular - it is silly.

The indivual is smart the masses are stupid. what steroid are they talking about - for who and when - Birth Control is a steroid and it destroys Millions of womens bodies with unwanted weight game (muscle) and with a prelude to cervical cancer - (bet you did not know that ) But Bob Costas and Bryant gumble are not speaking of that - they are speaking of general use of what ever is preceived to make someone what ? Bigger, longer lasting , recover,astham, relive pain, - We want our baseball, football and basketball players to PLAY - last I check steroids are not illegal they are BANNED - which means - prescrption is necessary to use. simple - very very simple!

If you want to test the BODYBUILDERS - that is fine they will still look like bodybuilders
The lazy untalented commentators who do not have the abilty to play will just say they" figured a way around the test" after this adminstration (BUSH ) Steroids will be reduced to nothing more than WEED!

Just my opinon !

[Croatch]

And as for your first sentance, bodybuilding isn't dying, its pretty big in fact.

Sentance -  Sentence

[musclehedz]

Yeah, sure looks juiced...

Epic comparison (tennisplayers with bodybuilders)

[Pete Dimano]

,,,

[WOOO]

Yeah, sure looks juiced...

BAHAHAHA

[The Luke]

The idea that somatropin (growth hormone) isn't a drug is patently ridiculous... sometimes the stoopiditty on this board is revolting.

Growth hormone IS a drug; insulin is a drug; thyroxine is a drug; androgenic anabolic steroids are drugs...

They are also CHEATING... and that's why they should be banned. An arbitrary line must be drawn in the sand somewhere, otherwise they become a prerequisite for participation in the sport. Without some kind of limit on what is acceptable in the pursuit of muscle, well then there is always some moron willing to take more than you are... then someone like BillyGuns ends up as Mr Olympia due solely to the dosages and combinations of the stack some irresponsible "guru" recommended/sold to him.

In bodybuilding steroids have given us a progression from great natural physiques in the 50s, to impressive physiques in the 60s, to fantastic physiques in the 70s and 80s, to misshapen artificial physiques in the 90s, to a new century of cartoonish comical freak show bodies...

If you appreciate modern bodybuilding, with its distended stomachs; bloat and pimples; disproportionate musculature reflecting hormone receptor patterns and not the pattern of muscles trained; with its prostitution, gay hustling and schmoes... then more power to you.

But let's remind ourselves of what chemical bodybuilding has cost the physical culture movement...

-mainstream acceptance
(bodybuilding shows should be held in art museums... if the physiques were natural and the shredded, overly-depleted chemical look wasn't rewarded the guys would look like Chippendales but without the watery bloat, and the girls would look like gymnasts/ballerinas... that would put bums on seats and sell gym memberships. Remember bodybuilding audiences are full of low-income sub-100-IQ underachievers directly because of the influence of steroids on this sport)

-proper training science
(every idiot get results with steroids and the din of self-professed experts drowns out proper hypertrophy science... some of these idiots recommend three-a-day volume workouts for natural trainers! No wonder Arthur Jones abandoned bodybuilding in disgust. Remember, you are confused about how to add muscle to your problem bodyparts because of what steroids have done to bodybuilding)

-mainstream respect
(natural bodybuilding requires discipline; commitment; perseverance and intelligence... meanwhile most IFBB Pros are semi-illiterate charisma-free drug addicts that know next to nothing about bodybuilding training or nutrition and would be crackheads or dope fiends if they hadn't found bodybuilding. Remember, this sport is boring because of the influence of steroids)

-organisational integrity
(mainstream acceptance would provide the competition needed to eliminate people like the Weiders who have used bodybuilding as their own personal fiefdom for far too long... Remember, the judging system is corrupt and unaccountable because of what steroids have done to bodybuilding)


Sorry guys, it's the truth.
Steroids have ruined bodybuilding and now that the genie is out of the box... genetic manipulation is on the way, soon, very soon, a muscular build won't command respect from anyone... it won't be something you earn and deserve to be proud of... it'll be something to be ashamed of, akin to getting a facial tattoo reading: "I'm so vain and shallow I take drugs to look like this"


The Luke