Mass vs Cuts debate:

[Champion]

A lot of amateurs pack on fat and claim it to be muscle. When in fact they diet down all their 'muscle' seems to magically disappear. Why are these delusional people doing that to themselves?

Let us explore further with "exhibit A": A 40 something year old fat man who could barely wipe his ass at 6'1" 270 pound offseason weight, gets down to a nice and bulimic weight of 202 pounds come contest.

"Exhibit B" A 28 year old MD lapdog, posting before and after pics with no progress whatsoever, competed at a studly 156 pounds at 6'4".

Now we do not need to put a face to these test subjects but we do need to bring to the attention of the general public just how awful things can become when you inject steroids into your cranium. Let us not forget that both have boasted outrageous gym numbers 600 pound squats, 315 pound lying triceps extensions, 500+ pound bench presses.

Have fun.

[jaejonna]

Arvillia didnt going to like that you used him for exhibit A

[sandpiper]

Arvillia didnt going to like that you used him for exhibit A

Here I thought Exhibit A was Squadfather and Exhibit B is the royalty known as Billy Gunz

[DK II]

Here I thought Exhibit A was Squadfather and Exhibit B is the royalty known as Billy Gunz

No, "A" is Arvilla.

SF never even bothered to diet down.

[The Squadfather]

A lot of amateurs pack on fat and claim it to be muscle. When in fact they diet down all their 'muscle' seems to magically disappear. Why are these delusional people doing that to themselves?

Let us explore further with "exhibit A": A 40 something year old fat man who could barely wipe his ass at 6'1" 270 pound offseason weight, gets down to a nice and bulimic weight of 202 pounds come contest.

"Exhibit B" A 28 year old MD lapdog, posting before and after pics with no progress whatsoever, competed at a studly 156 pounds at 6'4".

Now we do not need to put a face to these test subjects but we do need to bring to the attention of the general public just how awful things can become when you inject steroids into your cranium. Let us not forget that both have boasted outrageous gym numbers 600 pound squats, 315 pound lying triceps extensions, 500+ pound bench presses.

Have fun.

hahahahhaa, are you saying that Billy Guns claimed he could bench 500 and squat 600?

[Champion]

hahahahhaa, are you saying that Billy Guns claimed he could bench 500 and squat 600?

Pretty sure both exhibits showed signs of DBB. Delusions Beyond Belief.

[The Coach]

Bring back conditioning, anyone can get big!