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Gemma Protein Isolate Powder
« on: August 17, 2007, 11:43:32 PM »
What do you think about this ?




Everyone has been sitting on the edge of their seats waiting to hear what we have in store for our new cost-effective, vegetable based isolate protein powder with a balanced amino acid profile that we have been researching for months. We are happy to announce that this product will be arriving this week and will be available on the site immediately following its receipt!! Gemma Protein Isolate Powder is extremely high in Leucine, Arginine, and Glutamine, along with a balanced amino profile. It is clean tasting, and mixes extremely smoothly with a lighter texture than Whey powders.

Per 30g Serving:
Calories 105.3
Fat 0.3g
Carbs 0.03g
Protein 25.6g

Amino Acid Profile
Per 100 grams

Amount Per Serving
Alanine
4.4
Arginine
9.1
Aspartic Acid
12.5
Cystine
1.1
Glutamic Acid
20.3
Glycine
4.1
Histidine
2.7
Isoleucine
4.7
Leucine
8.7
Lysine
7.7
Methionine
1.2
Phenylalanine
5.6
Proline
4.4
Serine
5.6
Threonine
3.9
Tryptophan
1.0
Tyrosine
3.9
Valine
5.2
The above statement has not been evaluated by the FDA. This product is not intended to diagnose or treat any disease.

Gemma Protein Isolate is derived and isolated from peas and its natural protein fraction, which possesses a low level of denaturing and is very solable (mixes very well). Gemma is NON-GMO, low allergenic and gluten free. On top of that, the powder will be launching at only $4.65 - 4.89/lb!!!






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Re: Gemma Protein Isolate Powder
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2007, 04:05:47 AM »
pea protein??

Why the hell would you do that to yourself?

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Re: Gemma Protein Isolate Powder
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2007, 02:33:43 PM »
price of whey is still raising  , what if whey becomes to expensive , will this be good solution for protein powder , its cheap but is it worth ?

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Re: Gemma Protein Isolate Powder
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2007, 03:11:21 AM »
price of whey is still raising  , what if whey becomes to expensive , will this be good solution for protein powder , its cheap but is it worth ?

IMO, no. pea protein doesn't have a good bioloogical value, just like wheat protein.

If whey gets too expensive for you, get another job.

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Re: Gemma Protein Isolate Powder
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2007, 06:07:52 AM »
IMO, no. pea protein doesn't have a good bioloogical value, just like wheat protein.

If whey gets too expensive for you, get another job.

I'm in Europe and and here price of whey protein is how much you pay x 4

here is info about biological value I got from tp.com


bioavailability is above 90-95%, he believes the digestive rate to run somewhere in the vacinity of an egg product, which would fall somewhere between a casein and a whey. Regarding the Gemma as a complete protein, Doug has this to say:

there is much misconception with complete and incomplete proteins, the thought that plant proteins are not complete have been refuted. the body needs 21 amino acids (essential), 12 being produced by our bodies and the 9 others coming from foods. it is simply not true that you have to eat an animal source protein to get a "complete" protein, most plants have a complete amino profile, but some aminos are lacking in amounts/percentages. some say you need to food combine or mixing of protein sources to make a complete protein, it simply is not true. gemma protein has every essential amino acid that a meat protein would have, though some of the aminos are lower than a animal derived protein, though some aminos are higher in the gemma, especially the important ones to us, leucine, ariginine, and glutamine.




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Re: Gemma Protein Isolate Powder
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2007, 12:48:46 AM »
I'm in Europe and and here price of whey protein is how much you pay x 4

here is info about biological value I got from tp.com


bioavailability is above 90-95%, he believes the digestive rate to run somewhere in the vacinity of an egg product, which would fall somewhere between a casein and a whey. Regarding the Gemma as a complete protein, Doug has this to say:

there is much misconception with complete and incomplete proteins, the thought that plant proteins are not complete have been refuted. the body needs 21 amino acids (essential), 12 being produced by our bodies and the 9 others coming from foods. it is simply not true that you have to eat an animal source protein to get a "complete" protein, most plants have a complete amino profile, but some aminos are lacking in amounts/percentages. some say you need to food combine or mixing of protein sources to make a complete protein, it simply is not true. gemma protein has every essential amino acid that a meat protein would have, though some of the aminos are lower than a animal derived protein, though some aminos are higher in the gemma, especially the important ones to us, leucine, ariginine, and glutamine.





i'm in europe too. you definetly need a better job. i stay with whey, mostly i only eat whole food and supplement only free amino acids around training.

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Re: Gemma Protein Isolate Powder
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2007, 01:26:54 AM »
where are you from ?

I'm in Eastern Europe , not so good situation in my country , hard to find good job , I think I will do same as you , vitargo and bcaa after workout and eat more

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Re: Gemma Protein Isolate Powder
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2007, 01:33:08 AM »
where are you from ?

I'm in Eastern Europe , not so good situation in my country , hard to find good job , I think I will do same as you , vitargo and bcaa after workout and eat more

I'm in germany. What country are you from?

Vitargo and BCAA is a good choice, IMO you can just take dextrose, it's even cheaper. Get some liquid aminos or amino powder from the saved money so you can get a full amino profile after workout. BCAA + Amino acids + dextrose.

Beats every protein powder i think.

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Re: Gemma Protein Isolate Powder
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2007, 01:45:32 AM »
I'm in germany. What country are you from?

Vitargo and BCAA is a good choice, IMO you can just take dextrose, it's even cheaper. Get some liquid aminos or amino powder from the saved money so you can get a full amino profile after workout. BCAA + Amino acids + dextrose.

Beats every protein powder i think.

I'm from Serbia

I order vitargo from Slovenia its not so expansive 60 euro  5kg  , and take it with BCAA , also ordering protein from trueprotein.com , its cheap now , cheaper then to buy here in Serbia , I have money for supps now , for protein but if price continue  to raise that will make me a problem with supplementation , but price of aminos and carbs will not go up

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Re: Gemma Protein Isolate Powder
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2007, 03:44:41 AM »
I'm in germany. What country are you from?

Vitargo and BCAA is a good choice, IMO you can just take dextrose, it's even cheaper. Get some liquid aminos or amino powder from the saved money so you can get a full amino profile after workout. BCAA + Amino acids + dextrose.

Beats every protein powder i think.

I have read a lot about liquid beef amino's . Is this what you are talking about here? What's you take on them?

Pea protein doesnt sound great. It makes sense though from what they are saying if it has a BV 90-95 , digested easily and has a high level of leucine in it then it sounds good to me.

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Re: Gemma Protein Isolate Powder
« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2007, 03:53:20 AM »
I have read a lot about liquid beef amino's . Is this what you are talking about here? What's you take on them?

Pea protein doesnt sound great. It makes sense though from what they are saying if it has a BV 90-95 , digested easily and has a high level of leucine in it then it sounds good to me.

stay away from beef protein supplements. it's only gelatine in it. worthless.

Try to get either synthetic aminos or whey hydrolisate.

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Re: Gemma Protein Isolate Powder
« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2007, 05:31:32 AM »
Im talking about this product in particular

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28242&page=5

Whats your thoughts on that?

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Re: Gemma Protein Isolate Powder
« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2007, 05:37:26 AM »
I have read a lot about liquid beef amino's . Is this what you are talking about here? What's you take on them?

Pea protein doesnt sound great. It makes sense though from what they are saying if it has a BV 90-95 , digested easily and has a high level of leucine in it then it sounds good to me.

gemma protein is vegetable protein


didint try beef aminos , didint know they exist

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Re: Gemma Protein Isolate Powder
« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2007, 05:39:39 AM »
Where do you get Gemma from? Which company makes it?

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Re: Gemma Protein Isolate Powder
« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2007, 05:45:02 AM »
Im talking about this product in particular

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28242&page=5

Whats your thoughts on that?


Blood from a cow's fetus?

One word: Never.
Who knows what the hell you can get from this. Blood has a high potential for carrying all sorts of diseases, and as you know supplements are in no need to reach medical standards, most are never even tested at all.

Milk and eggs are pretty safe, as well as vegetable proteins. But animal blood? Never.
I'd rather stick with some legit human grade testosterone and HGH instead of putting something made from animal blood into my body.

Or stay natural and healthy, which is the best choice.

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Re: Gemma Protein Isolate Powder
« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2007, 06:01:17 AM »
Would you eat a big juicy rare fillet steak?

I would!

Its not like the bleeding claves and sticking it in a bottle :-X

Do you think it works? Im willing to give it a shot.

If you can inject anything from UGL or even GH from China then drinking blood aint much worse  ;D

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Re: Gemma Protein Isolate Powder
« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2007, 06:39:27 AM »

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Re: Gemma Protein Isolate Powder
« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2007, 01:42:10 AM »
Would you eat a big juicy rare fillet steak?

I would!

Its not like the bleeding claves and sticking it in a bottle :-X

Do you think it works? Im willing to give it a shot.

If you can inject anything from UGL or even GH from China then drinking blood aint much worse  ;D

steak doesn't contain blood - the red juice that comes from it isn't blood.

I'm natural, so i don't inject anything, and you're right, if i would i wouldn't inject either stuff from china nor ug-stuff.

No blood for me, thanks.

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Re: Gemma Protein Isolate Powder
« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2007, 01:47:38 AM »
DK Reading all the feed back from that link is sent you , doesnt that intrest you?

Sounds awesome. Im going to get a couple of bottles and see what all the hype is about.

Blood and Pea protein hahahah what nexT!?

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Re: Gemma Protein Isolate Powder
« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2007, 02:13:48 AM »
DK Reading all the feed back from that link is sent you , doesnt that intrest you?

Sounds awesome. Im going to get a couple of bottles and see what all the hype is about.

Blood and Pea protein hahahah what nexT!?

No, it doesn't interest me at all.
I've seen so many supplements hyped that won't do jackshit. Read the internet forums, you can see people gaining 20lb pure muscle in 4 weeks with NO Explode or KreAlkalyn and lose 30lb fat with hydroxicut hardcore in two days.


Hormones like IGF-1 and other ones that are supposed to be contained in that protein won't be digested orally anyways. They end up being destroyed in the liver for a greater part. There's a reason people actually inject the stuff.
Last thing before cow's blood was colostrum, the first milk a cow gives. Doesn't help too.
I guess pros wouldn't do tons of shit if all they could do was take amino acids and colostrum and grow big.
Next thing will be cow piss, an old and holy indian superpower medicine.
Check out this website and see what it can do for you, sounds amazing, right??

http://www.cowurine.com/

It can even cure AIDS!

All kidding aside, supplements aren't properly monitored and checked, even if supp companies claim to do so. Sure the animals are checked for diseases, but like i said, blood has a much higher risk to contain diseases than milk or egg protein. Animals tend to have diseases, every few month you read about another mad cow disease find, or a high use in anitbiotics and other medicines in animals.
Eating the meat or drinking the milk already has a certain risk, but the blood is the place where everything flows around.
Last but not least i just don't trust supplement companies who have unknown standards and aren't monitored, especially when the source of protein is this delicate.

i would stay away from this product, IMO the gains cannot be that great compared to a roid user. Like trab wrote here before in the estrogen blocker thread, it takes a high raise in hormones to actually gain more muscle fast, a mere 100% raise won't do jack shit.
If you take the risk of getting something from cow's fetal blood, IMO the risk of doing a cycle with human grade test has better gains and more safety.

I rather be on the safe side than gaining a few pounds and ending up with something nasty.  ;D ;D



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Re: Gemma Protein Isolate Powder
« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2007, 03:41:00 AM »
I don’t see it as being that risky to be honest.

Im not expecting to make steroid type gains from it , and it not that any one is comparing this product to steroids.

The amino acid profile of it doesn’t look that great to be honest but then again the proof is in the pudding.

Im from Africa man so im not sure whats going on in the states but here if you know what your doing you only use imported products. All the local stuff is complete junk and they use all there raws from China and the stuff is crap. The l-glutamine here actually tastes like its got an acid base in it like lemon juice. Try EAS and you don’t taste anything.

I was always confident that US based products are of better quality as they have lot numbers as well as the FDA which regulates activities in the country. Am I wrong?

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Re: Gemma Protein Isolate Powder
« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2007, 05:00:03 AM »
I don’t see it as being that risky to be honest.

Im not expecting to make steroid type gains from it , and it not that any one is comparing this product to steroids.

The amino acid profile of it doesn’t look that great to be honest but then again the proof is in the pudding.

Im from Africa man so im not sure whats going on in the states but here if you know what your doing you only use imported products. All the local stuff is complete junk and they use all there raws from China and the stuff is crap. The l-glutamine here actually tastes like its got an acid base in it like lemon juice. Try EAS and you don’t taste anything.

I was always confident that US based products are of better quality as they have lot numbers as well as the FDA which regulates activities in the country. Am I wrong?


I'm german and i'm regularly shocked of what kind of shit reaches the american market!

I don't know, the major companies may be okay, but it's really those supplement companies that come up with something new, hardcore supplements.
Never proven to work, the risk is on the buyers side.
All supplement ads read "not proven by FDA" and so on.

Europe has far stricter laws regarding supplements and medical drugs. Some american supplements are forbidden on the european market because they cannot reach the required standards.

Like i said, i don't trust an american supplement company when i cannot even be sure about some black sheep turning up in the highly supervised european food market, like it happens from time to time.