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The War (Op Ed by Joe Lieberman)
« on: August 20, 2007, 10:06:07 AM »
do you think this is what Nancy Pelosi went to Syria for?   ::)

Al Qaeda's Travel Agent
Damascus International Airport is a hub for terrorists.

BY JOSEPH LIEBERMAN
Monday, August 20, 2007 12:01 a.m.

The United States is at last making significant progress against al Qaeda in Iraq--but the road to victory now requires cutting off al Qaeda's road to Iraq through Damascus.

Thanks to Gen. David Petraeus's new counterinsurgency strategy in Iraq, and the strength and skill of the American soldiers fighting there, al Qaeda in Iraq is now being routed from its former strongholds in Anbar and Diyala provinces. Many of Iraq's Sunni Arabs, meanwhile, are uniting with us against al Qaeda, alienated by the barbarism and brutality of their erstwhile allies.

As Gen. Petraeus recently said of al Qaeda in Iraq: "We have them off plan."

But defeating al Qaeda in Iraq requires not only that we continue pressing the offensive against its leadership and infrastructure inside the country. We must also aggressively target its links to "global" al Qaeda and close off the routes its foreign fighters are using to get into Iraq.

Recently declassified American intelligence reveals just how much al Qaeda in Iraq is dependent for its survival on the support it receives from the broader, global al Qaeda network, and how most of that support flows into Iraq through one country--Syria. Al Qaeda in Iraq is sustained by a transnational network of facilitators and human smugglers, who replenish its supply of suicide bombers--approximately 60 to 80 Islamist extremists, recruited every month from across the Middle East, North Africa and Europe, and sent to meet their al Qaeda handlers in Syria, from where they are taken to Iraq to blow themselves up to kill countless others.

Although small in number, these foreign fighters are a vital strategic asset to al Qaeda in Iraq, providing it with the essential human ammunition it needs to conduct high-visibility, mass-casualty suicide bombings, such as we saw last week in northern Iraq. In fact, the U.S. military estimates that between 80% and 90% of suicide attacks in Iraq are perpetrated by foreign fighters, making them the deadliest weapon in al Qaeda's war arsenal. Without them, al Qaeda in Iraq would be critically, perhaps even fatally, weakened.


That is why we now must focus on disrupting this flow of suicide bombers--and that means focusing on Syria, through which up to 80% of the Iraq-bound extremists transit. Indeed, even terrorists from countries that directly border Iraq travel by land via Syria to Iraq, instead of directly from their home countries, because of the permissive environment for terrorism that the Syrian government has fostered. Syria refuses to tighten its visa regime for individuals transiting its territory.

Coalition forces have spent considerable time and energy trying to tighten Syria's land border with Iraq against terrorist infiltration. But given the length and topography of that border, the success of these efforts is likely to remain uneven at best, particularly without the support of the Damascus regime.

Before al Qaeda's foreign fighters can make their way across the Syrian border into Iraq, however, they must first reach Syria--and the overwhelming majority does so, according to U.S. intelligence estimates, by flying into Damascus International Airport, making the airport the central hub of al Qaeda travel in the Middle East, and the most vulnerable chokepoint in al Qaeda's war against Iraq and the U.S. in Iraq.

Syrian President Bashar al Assad cannot seriously claim that he is incapable of exercising effective control over the main airport in his capital city. Syria is a police state, with sprawling domestic intelligence and security services. The notion that al Qaeda recruits are slipping into and through the Damascus airport unbeknownst to the local Mukhabarat is totally unbelievable.

This is not the first use of the Damascus airport by terrorists. It has long been the central transit point for Iranian weapons en route to Hezbollah, in violation of United Nations Security Council sanctions, as well as for al Qaeda operatives moving into and out of Lebanon.

Now the Damascus airport is the point of entry into Iraq for most of the suicide bombers who are killing innocent Iraqi citizens and American soldiers, and trying to break America's will in this war. It is therefore time to demand that the Syrian regime stop playing travel agent for al Qaeda in Iraq.

When Congress reconvenes next month, we should set aside whatever differences divide us on Iraq and send a clear and unambiguous message to the Syrian regime, as we did last month to the Iranian regime, that the transit of al Qaeda suicide bombers through Syria on their way to Iraq is completely unacceptable, and it must stop.

We in the U.S. government should also begin developing a range of options to consider taking against Damascus International, unless the Syrian government takes appropriate action, and soon.

Responsible air carriers should be asked to stop flights into Damascus International, as long as it remains the main terminal of international terror. Despite its use by al Qaeda and Hezbollah terrorists, the airport continues to be serviced by many major non-U.S. carriers, including Alitalia, Air France, and British Airways.

Interrupting the flow of foreign fighters would mean countless fewer suicide bombings in Iraq, and countless fewer innocent people murdered by the barbaric enemy we are fighting there. At a time when the al Qaeda network in Iraq is already under heavy stress thanks to American and Iraqi military operations, closing off the supply line through which al Qaeda in Iraq is armed with its most deadly weapons--suicide bombers--would be devastating to the terrorists' cause.

Simply put, for the U.S. and our Iraqi allies, defeating al Qaeda in Iraq means locking shut Syria's "Open Door" policy to terrorists. It is past time for Syria to do so.


Mr. Lieberman is an Independent Democratic senator from Connecticut.


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Re: The War (Op Ed by Joe Lieberman)
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2007, 10:12:23 AM »

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The United States is at last making significant progress against al Qaeda in Iraq--but the road to victory now requires cutting off al Qaeda's road to Iraq through Damascus.

Maybe we should't have paved those roads to begin with ::)

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« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2007, 10:17:11 AM »
Joseph Lieberman is a very sick man. 

Notice how all foreign fighters are Al Qaeda.  Interesting and sad.

We can't even control US borders and this guy thinks the US can insulate Iraq.

What a confused fellow he is.

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« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2007, 11:14:41 AM »
wonder who wrote that drivel for joe..........probably some spotted owl loving liberal. you know, the same people who voted for the war before that voted against it.

You mean the ones who have the ability to recognize a huge mistake versus the ones who can't see past GWB"s butt hairs?

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« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2007, 11:22:52 AM »
I guess u can debate till your blue in the face about should we be there or way we're there, or Bush is an idiot etc etc etc...the point is we are there, can't afford to loose and this particular article discusses Syria as the suicide bomber pipeline into Iraq. If Joe chooses to call all foreign fighters AQ, who cares, especially in this context. Much like Bush is the face of the war in Iraq, so too is Bin laden for the jihadists. We have been hearing for about 4 months now, both in the media and from the military side, that we are 'inside the AQ decision making process",  meaning we have retaken the offense on these guys. AQ is just one problem inside Iraq, but destroying the foreign fighter threat will allow us to pull out.
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« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2007, 01:49:59 PM »

and do nothing ? yes, your correct.

When the milk is spilled and you are prevented from cleaning it up what can you do?

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« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2007, 03:07:38 PM »
if the libs had balls, they'd quit bitching and impeach bush and cheney.

one problem................. .............NO BALLS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


hahahahahaaaaa.


Nope, no charges or evidence.......but then again we are talking about facts, something that you have trouble seeing.

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« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2007, 03:41:05 PM »
actually i feel sorry for you. the thought of being connected to the limp wristed liberals must be frustrating. yap, yap, yap.........it's all you've got.

when your party finds their family jewels, let me know.

tell your strong leader nancy i said hi !!!!!!!


No, like all things, the cycle will continue and the Dems will be in control and the Repubs will whine.  The sad thing is you have no clue just how far up GWB's rectum you are.

But there are uses for people like you, so don't be sad. 

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« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2007, 04:38:29 PM »
so you think queen hillary will win ?

I hope not.   I wish Ron Paul had a chance.  But the reality is that at the moment she looks like the dem favorite and if the repubs don;t get their act together the American people will associate the blunder of Iraq with any candidate they put up.

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« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2007, 06:49:26 PM »
I'd be really surprised if anything more then a very moderate republican gets elected.  It's the dems election to lose.

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« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2007, 06:56:31 PM »
I'd be really surprised if anything more then a very moderate republican gets elected.  It's the dems election to lose.

Not if Hillary is the nominee, as she likely will be.  I don't think she can win a general election against Giuliani or Romney, or even Thompson.   

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« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2007, 08:14:51 PM »
Not if Hillary is the nominee, as she likely will be.  I don't think she can win a general election against Giuliani or Romney, or even Thompson.   

Yeah,  i'd be incline to agree with you.....but the election is still far off....

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« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2007, 08:30:50 PM »

what we need are some good old minefields.  don't keep allah or princess di waiting.

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« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2007, 09:21:06 PM »
Not if Hillary is the nominee, as she likely will be.  I don't think she can win a general election against Giuliani or Romney, or even Thompson.   
AHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHA

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« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2007, 08:30:24 AM »
AHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHA

You think she's going to win?   I'm not really sure becuase it seems too early.

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« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2007, 12:02:43 PM »
Yeah,  i'd be incline to agree with you.....but the election is still far off....

True.  Anything can happen.  There was a time when Gary Hart was on his way to becoming president.  Both Pat Buchannan and Rick Tsongas won the New Hampshire primary.

But Hillary is just too polarizing.  Nothing like a polarizing candidate to energize the opposition’s base and get them to the polls.     

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« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2007, 12:33:57 PM »
True.  Anything can happen.  There was a time when Gary Hart was on his way to becoming president.  Both Pat Buchannan and Rick Tsongas won the New Hampshire primary.

But Hillary is just too polarizing.  Nothing like a polarizing candidate to energize the opposition’s base and get them to the polls.     

She could run as uniter and not a divider.   Did you vote for Bush b/c he was a uniter or b/c he wasn't a divider.

On a serious note, the play is in the middle not in the polarized ends. 

Hillary is no more polarizing figure than any one else.  Her advantage is name recognition...she has notoriety thanks the beloved Bill Clinton.

It is spin to say that she's a polarizing figure.

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« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2007, 12:54:37 PM »
She could run as uniter and not a divider.   Did you vote for Bush b/c he was a uniter or b/c he wasn't a divider.

On a serious note, the play is in the middle not in the polarized ends. 

Hillary is no more polarizing figure than any one else.  Her advantage is name recognition...she has notoriety thanks the beloved Bill Clinton.

It is spin to say that she's a polarizing figure.

I voted for him because he was the better candidate.  The evil of two lessers.   :)

Spin?  Hillary has huge negative numbers in the polls.  People hate that woman.  Here is a sample:

"But a recent CBS News poll showed 39 percent of all voters nationwide had an unfavorable view of Clinton, while only 20 percent viewed Obama negatively. Other polls have had Clinton's negative rating even higher."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/19/AR2007081900721.html

"But there are warning signs for both front-runners in this poll, which was taken of 1,005 adults from July 27-30 and which has a margin of error of plus-minus 3.1 percentage points.

For Clinton, it’s her relatively high negative ratings. In the survey, 44 percent view her positively versus 39 percent who see her in a negative light. By comparison, Obama has a 42-22 percent positive-negative rating."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20076620/

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« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2007, 12:57:12 PM »
DEcker, She's polarizing..no spin at all....She is a woman..bothersome to some.....but not a big deal....she was married to Bill....same deal...but she can come off as insincere and a bitch. I have met her and I like her, maybe not as president but she doesn't really bother me. I think she is the only viable candidate. Obama proves hourly that he is out of his league.

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« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2007, 01:06:36 PM »
DEcker, She's polarizing..no spin at all....She is a woman..bothersome to some.....but not a big deal....she was married to Bill....same deal...but she can come off as insincere and a bitch. I have met her and I like her, maybe not as president but she doesn't really bother me. I think she is the only viable candidate. Obama proves hourly that he is out of his league.


The only group that matters in this country is the plastic middle of the roaders.

You know, the morons. 

Here is a rare instance where I agree with Ann Coulter.  These numbskulls know nothing of politics.  What they do know is that that charming guy Bill Clinton was her husband....Bill had magnificent approval numbers throughout his two terms (largely b/c things were going well economically).

That's about the extent of her reputation preceeding her to this group of fence-sitters.

She's polarizing to these people, as far as I'm concerned, only to the extent that she's a woman and misogyny is still strong.

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Re: The War (Op Ed by Joe Lieberman)
« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2007, 06:30:09 PM »
if the libs nominate hillary, the g.o.p. is back in the w.h.
i'd rather the g.o.p came up with a viable candidate who's actually going to make decisions based on the mindset of the voters who put him in the position of president, and not as a "this was the best we can do" kinda thing.  too scary to think of. 

i won't vote for senator clinton, because i don't agree with her issues.  best candidate that's in the game right now on both sides imo is Mike Huckabee.  But as OzmO and Beach have eluded to earlier, the election is a good distance from now. 

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« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2007, 06:46:39 PM »
You know, the morons. 
Can't get any more elitist than that statement.  :-\  Something that is to be expected of voters who are on the fringes of each party (right or left).  The "morons" know more than what you read about.  They don't tend to get caught up in the polarizing bickering that goes on between the two major parties.  With that said, it would be so nice to see another party arise.  I think that's where the Unity08 (unity08.com) ideology comes from. 

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« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2007, 07:09:21 AM »
Can't get any more elitist than that statement.  :-\  Something that is to be expected of voters who are on the fringes of each party (right or left).  The "morons" know more than what you read about.  They don't tend to get caught up in the polarizing bickering that goes on between the two major parties.  With that said, it would be so nice to see another party arise.  I think that's where the Unity08 (unity08.com) ideology comes from. 
I'm just borrowing an observation by Ann Coulter that the so-called "independents who haven't made up their minds yet" are disengaged morons.

I'll stand by that.

How on earth can any thinking person analyzing the issues:  environmental concerns, health care, Social security, the war in iraq, medicare, veterans's issues, taxes, governmental spending etc., be a fence sitter?

Either you are engaged in the matter or you are not.  Either you are being a vigilant participant in the democratic process or you are not.

I have no sympathy for these people.  They are the self-indulgent, petty refuse that clogs the arteries of our constitutional body.

I respect people that think and take stands on issues.  I respect you.  But I have nothing but contempt for the group of self-important, know-nothing fence-sitters that hold sway over our political process.

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« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2007, 08:45:27 AM »
I'm just borrowing an observation by Ann Coulter that the so-called "independents who haven't made up their minds yet" are disengaged morons.

I'll stand by that.

How on earth can any thinking person analyzing the issues:  environmental concerns, health care, Social security, the war in iraq, medicare, veterans's issues, taxes, governmental spending etc., be a fence sitter?

Either you are engaged in the matter or you are not.  Either you are being a vigilant participant in the democratic process or you are not.

I have no sympathy for these people.  They are the self-indulgent, petty refuse that clogs the arteries of our constitutional body.

I respect people that think and take stands on issues.  I respect you.  But I have nothing but contempt for the group of self-important, know-nothing fence-sitters that hold sway over our political process.
You know I respect your opinion as well, Deck, but keep in mind though....there are many in this country who, while they are up to date on all of the issues, aren't even registered to vote.  At least the "fence-sitters" care enough to make a vote.  Who are the wise ones in this scenario? 

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« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2007, 11:58:06 AM »
You know I respect your opinion as well, Deck, but keep in mind though....there are many in this country who, while they are up to date on all of the issues, aren't even registered to vote.  At least the "fence-sitters" care enough to make a vote.  Who are the wise ones in this scenario? 
I don't share your enthusiasm for those getting off the dime to merely register to vote.  It is our constitutional duty as citizens to vote.

I still view these people as uninformed free riders that hurt the political process.  But, no sense beating this horse to death.  I know what you mean.