Montreal Pro: Milos Sarcev 3 weeks out

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Milos' Bicep. 


Epic Jealousy Blue Star Jealousy.  I never said I was an expert, but Humalog is a quick way to end up in the ER.  You've never even take insulin, so do you even have an opinion Mr. CSN MFT GHB AAS? 

I knew I'd have to spell it out for a few morons that believe everything that they read.  When I said "Use Humilin R, the Humalog is too long acting." it is because if you read some of the studies of the effects of insulin in regular people with normal pancreatic functions it has been shown that it can sustain elavated levels in plasma just as long as Humalin R. 

Humalog is supposed to be quick and easier to control around contest time because it is supposed to start working in 10 min and drop off in 1.5 to 2hrs. which would be the case IF YOU HAVE DIABETES!!!!!!!

Actually use the drug and you'll see a difference.  You get more of a steady amount with Humalin R. It like comparing suspension to enanthate.  Not to mention you only have to take it twice a day as opposed to 3 to 4 times a day.  If you want more sides, Humalog is great for growing guts though. 

The only way to find out is to try it.  It could be replace the Bee Pollen it your supplement regimen. 

Bottom line is Humalog can make you very big because your peak subsides quick and you end up shooting it more, causing you to get bigger.  In terms that you would understand....It's like Crack vs Cocaine, they both do the same thing but you would have to do more crack that cocaine.  Milos is a trainer that get paid to train and supplement these guys.  Do you think he would advocate something that would work as good but cut the frequency in half.  If I was the dealer trainer I wouldn't mention that part either. 

It is no secret that by using Insulin you basically use half the amount of hormones as Steroid only guys.  Insulin is a powerful drug and it's like throwing the dice everytime, whether you choose to throw 2 or 4 times a day is up to you.  I don't use Insulin at all anymore as diabetes runs in my family.

I'm not going to be jealous when I'm the same level as you are....an NPC AMATEUR Bodybuilder. 


And as far as insulin is concerned, I've never used it as it was before my time in its popularity and I've never recommended my clients to use it neither.  Too dangerous and if done incorrectly, then the user would go into diabetic shock and then you're in a world of shit. An EMS worker would most likely read the condition incorrectly and will give them another shot of insulin

Lots of people have died because of the use of insulin for bodybuilding.  You just don't hear about it...just like the heart attacks. 

[theworm]

so milos, what do you the average pro does?

600-800 week of test, 400-600 deca, some primo, anadrol, and GH per week for 12 weeks?  i know about 4 weeks out, more cutting drugs are used,,,but is the general gist?

[theworm]

Milos, looking shredded by the way!   where is your gym anyway?

[The Squadfather]

so milos, what do you the average pro does?

600-800 week of test, 400-600 deca, some primo, anadrol, and GH per week for 12 weeks?  i know about 4 weeks out, more cutting drugs are used,,,but is the general gist?

sheeeeiiiiiiittttt, better triple or even quadruple that test dosage.

[theworm]

maybe 1 gram a week of test.  no way they be doin 2.

is test suspesion still popular among pros?

[The Coach]

sheeeeiiiiiiittttt, better triple or even quadruple that test dosage.

Maybe for some (idiots) but not the majority!

[The Squadfather]

maybe 1 gram a week of test.  no way they be doin 2.

is test suspesion still popular among pros?

i'll gaurantee they all do at least 2 grams of test a week.

[The Coach]

i'll gaurantee they all do at least 2 grams of test a week.

I disagree, not even close.

[The Squadfather]

I disagree, not even close.

come on Joe, you honestly believe that Coleman, Cutler, Victor, Markus, DJ, etc. are all taking 750-1000mg. a week? if you believe that i've got some oceanfront land in Omaha to talk to you about.

[YoungBlood]

maybe 1 gram a week of test.  no way they be doin 2.

is test suspesion still popular among pros?

I got guys in my gym doing nearly 2/week of just test, not counting anything else they're on. Of course, the main guy I'm thinking of is sitting at home moping around right now because he tore his triceps off the bone.

[Milos_Sarcev]

come on Joe, you honestly believe that Coleman, Cutler, Victor, Markus, DJ, etc. are all taking 750-1000mg. a week? if you believe that i've got some oceanfront land in Omaha to talk to you about.

I am interested to make a purchase Squad...I love sunsets - so make sure I have a clear view...Omaha...why not...if the price is right...Ocean at the door...I am in! How much for an acre?

At least 4 out of this 5 take EXACTLY that a week...but off course - you guys would not want to believe that...as gh15 "knows"

[theworm]

shit gh15 is Marcus Ruhl.  I am going to believe what he says! 

[Milos_Sarcev]

shit gh15 is Marcus Ruhl.  I am going to believe what he says! 

He is ONE out of five I was not sure about...

[theworm]

milos, u think he is marcus?

he says he is from europe and will be in the O.  i know any loser can say that, but he sure does seem to know a hell of a lot.

[The Coach]

come on Joe, you honestly believe that Coleman, Cutler, Victor, Markus, DJ, etc. are all taking 750-1000mg. a week? if you believe that i've got some oceanfront land in Omaha to talk to you about.

To keep it short and simple, there is no need to be on alot once you've reached a certain level, however, like I said, there are people that will always think more is better, those are the people who don't last long. They take MUCH less than you might think.

[delta9mda]

That "thing" behind Arvilla happened to be the overall winner that night.  You have no clue how amazing that man truly is..

overall nothing. he was the light weight winner.

[dearth]

I am interested to make a purchase Squad...I love sunsets - so make sure I have a clear view...Omaha...why not...if the price is right...Ocean at the door...I am in! How much for an acre?

At least 4 out of this 5 take EXACTLY that a week...but off course - you guys would not want to believe that...as gh15 "knows"

Milos,

what drugs?

the only supplements the pros use are creakic, gaykic, elastic and plastic

[Van_Bilderass]

I'm not going to be jealous when I'm the same level as you are....an NPC AMATEUR Bodybuilder. 


And as far as insulin is concerned, I've never used it as it was before my time in its popularity and I've never recommended my clients to use it neither.  Too dangerous and if done incorrectly, then the user would go into diabetic shock and then you're in a world of shit. An EMS worker would most likely read the condition incorrectly and will give them another shot of insulin

Lots of people have died because of the use of insulin for bodybuilding.  You just don't hear about it...just like the heart attacks. 

Shut the fuck up. You know jack shit and you have no clients. Please show even one bodybuilding client you have.

[Milos_Sarcev]

milos, u think he is marcus?

he says he is from europe and will be in the O.  i know any loser can say that, but he sure does seem to know a hell of a lot.

He sure wants you to believe he knows a hell of a lot when in reality he has no clue...

Face it - most of the people would not want to believe that Ronnie, Jay, Victor, DJ...etc take the same (or often LESS) drugs than them...Most of the people would love to blame their lack of discipline, dedication, poor diet...wrong training (go heavy or go home )...and WEAK MINDS for being average looking while above mentioned champions look the way they do...

So, it is very funny to me that many of the 'wannabes' (gh15 and alike) would let us know the REAL SECRETS OF THE PROS...like they actually know...

Idiots like gh possibly believed amounts he mentioned - to be actually needed... and as he didn't have anyone who would share the real steroid info with him - he started experimenting - and he started taking ridiculous amounts...
Soon enough as he damaged just about everything he could damage (more than obviously - including his brain...IF HE EVER HAD ONE?) - he volunteered the information to masses - as "misery loves company" and IF he is going down - so should others....

I was asked couple of months ago what I think about "gh15 cycle recommendation" and when I read it - I was VERY DISTURBED - as amounts mentioned are prescription for a disaster...

I decided to SAVE SOME LIVES and put some sense into my getbig friends and fans (I LOVE YOU GUYS even if I sometimes act like I don't...YES, even you fatso...and all you guys that attack me - just because I am beautiful, strong, smart and Serbian...well maybe not beautiful or strong - but at least I have killer arms...)
Anyway...I posted amounts that SMART PROS USE - and most of you jumped on me calling me a lier?

Now, there are many, many.....MANY guys that came to me for a program - and all of them can confirm "my cycles" as I didn't change my mind ever since I started using and/or reccomanding...

Like I said: USING STEROIDS is one thing (I believe - very positive, CONSTRUCTIVE...GOOD by all means /I know I will be crucified for this statement - but whoever considers the facts - will understand WHAT I MEAN/...

ABUSING STEROIDS is something completely different - and AS MANY "IDIOTS" (like gh15 and his boys) take waaaaaaaaaaaay to much and way toooooooooooooo many AS for waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay toooooooooooooo loooooooooooooong - they turn something that could be good and HEALTHY (yes - healthy...as AGAIN: anabolic steroids are medicaments used mostly in treatment of critically catabolic patients...) into something BAD!

Promoting CONSTRUCTIVE METABOLISM (anabolic and anti-catabolic action of these "drugs" could/should be used MUCH MORE OFTEN in medical practices - and I am convinced that ONE OF THESE DAYS - doctors will realize that many conditions could be reversed by administration of even modest amounts of these drugs...but that's another story) - is certainly good thing but abusing even the best things (including drinking water) could and eventually WILL - KILL YOU...

Guys - be smart and THINK...and I am sure that IF you think long enough - you'll find all the right answers...

The truth is - many guys came to me as they've seen incredibly fast progress of the guys I prepare - so everyone BEFORE coming to see me - believed that  I am doing "something special"...Some exciting, exotic, never before seen supplement (or drug) taken in HUGE amounts without ever taking a break...or having team of medical doctors injecting who knows what on daily bases...while at night we would be hooked  on IV drip...

As I started: "the truth is" - first thing they would say after I give them my recommendations is: " ARE YOU SERIOUS?"
Or " you mean PER DAY - certainly NOT PER WEEK...RIGHT?"

I am telling you again that our Olympia contenders ARE indeed on less drugs than NOVICE DIVISION competitors at the Orange County Muscle Classic...You want to believe me (with LONG list of pros I am working with in the past decade or so) or someone who can't even post under his real name claiming that he lives with Elvis, have a brain, three balls (all 3 implants as he lost what he had and couldn't remember how many he suppose to have so he SWEARS /and NEVER LIES / that he indeed had three since he was born...etc...etc...

Do the math

[theworm]

i am going to have to agree with Milos!   


great post man!   


i also believe Priest in saying he only uses like 400 deca, primo, and a few others, and thats it.

[Van_Bilderass]

He sure wants you to believe he knows a hell of a lot when in reality he has no clue...

Face it - most of the people would not want to believe that Ronnie, Jay, Victor, DJ...etc take the same (or often LESS) drugs than them...Most of the people would love to blame their lack of discipline, dedication, poor diet...wrong training (go heavy or go home )...and WEAK MINDS for being average looking while above mentioned champions look the way they do...

So, it is very funny to me that many of the 'wannabes' (gh15 and alike) would let us know the REAL SECRETS OF THE PROS...like they actually know...

Idiots like gh possibly believed amounts he mentioned to be needed and as he didn't have anyone who would share the info with him he started experimenting - and he started taking ridiculous amounts...and soon enough as he damaged just about everything he could damage (more than obviously - including his brain...IF HE EVER HAD ONE?) - he volunteered the information to masses - as "misery loves company" and IF he is going down - so should others....

I was asked couple of months ago what I think about "gh15 cycle recommendation" and when I read it - I was VERY DISTURBED - as amounts mentioned are prescription for a disaster...

I decided to SAVE SOME LIVES and put some sense into my getbig friends and fans (I LOVE YOU GUYS even if I sometimes act like I don't...YES, even you fatso...and all you guys that attack me - just because I am beautiful, strong, smart and Serbian...well maybe not beautiful or strong - but at least I have killer arms...)
Anyway...I posted amounts that SMART PROS USE - and most of you jumped on me calling me a lier?

Now, there are many, many.....MANY guys that came to me for a program - and all of them can confirm "my cycles" as I didn't change my mind ever since I started using and/or reccomanding...

Like I said: USING STEROIDS is one thing (I believe - very positive, CONSTRUCTIVE...GOOD by all means /I know I will be crucified for this statement - but whoever considers the facts - will understand WHAT I MEAN/...

ABUSING STEROIDS is something completely different - and AS MANY "IDIOTS" (like gh15 and his boys) take waaaaaaaaaaaay to much and way toooooooooooooo many AS for waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay toooooooooooooo loooooooooooooong - they turn something that could be good and HEALTHY (yes - healthy...as AGAIN: anabolic steroids are medicaments used mostly in treatment of critically catabolic patients...

Promoting CONSTRUCTIVE METABOLISM (anabolic and anti-catabolic action of these "drugs" could/should be used MUCH MORE OFTEN in medical practices - and I am convinced that ONE OF THESE DAYS - doctors will realize that many conditions could be reversed by administration of even modest amounts of these drugs...but that's another story) - is certainly good thing but abusing even the best things (including drinking water) could and eventually WILL - KILL YOU...

Guys - be smart and THINK...and I am sure that IF you think long enough - you'll find all the right answers...

The truth is - many guys came to me as they've seen incredibly fast progress of the guys I prepare - so everyone BEFORE coming to see me - believed that  I am doing "something special"...Some exciting, exotic, never before seen supplement (or drug) taken in HUGE amounts without ever taking a break...or having team of medical doctors injecting who knows what on daily bases...while at night we would be hooked  on IV drip...

As I started: "the truth is" - first thing they would say after I give them my recommendations is: " ARE YOU SERIOUS?"
Or " you mean PER DAY - certainly NOT PER WEEK...RIGHT?"

I am telling you again that our Olympia contenders ARE indeed on less drugs than NOVICE DIVISION competitors at the Orange County Muscle Classic...You want to believe me (with LONG list of pros I am working with in the past decade or so) or someone who can't even post under his real name claiming that he lives with Elvis, have a brain, three balls (all 3 implants as he lost what he had and couldn't remember how much he suppose to have so he SWEARS /and NEVER LIES / that he indeed had three since he was born...etc...etc...

Do the math

Milos, all that is fine and dandy, but let me ask you this: if you are so very health conscious and always had that priority then how come you did the IV plasma expander drip for the Olympia? Without knowing what the ramifications would be. How come you bought an unknown secret diuretic from Chad? You took a diuretic you couldn't even identify and therefore put your life into someone else's hands. How come you decided to shoot a lot of Synthol into your body when the long term consequences are unknown? How come you were experimenting with both long and short acting insulins and going hypo frequently? How come you overdosed on transdermal thyroid hormones and hadn't done your research on how much goes into circulation? Did you also have that weak mindset and lacking discipline?

So you certainly had that kamikaze attitude many times during your career. If gh15 is a fool then you were at one point also.

[Tigerman]

He sure wants you to believe he knows a hell of a lot when in reality he has no clue...

Face it - most of the people would not want to believe that Ronnie, Jay, Victor, DJ...etc take the same (or often LESS) drugs than them...Most of the people would love to blame their lack of discipline, dedication, poor diet...wrong training (go heavy or go home )...and WEAK MINDS for being average looking while above mentioned champions look the way they do...

So, it is very funny to me that many of the 'wannabes' (gh15 and alike) would let us know the REAL SECRETS OF THE PROS...like they actually know...

Idiots like gh possibly believed amounts he mentioned - to be actually needed... and as he didn't have anyone who would share the real steroid info with him - he started experimenting - and he started taking ridiculous amounts...
Soon enough as he damaged just about everything he could damage (more than obviously - including his brain...IF HE EVER HAD ONE?) - he volunteered the information to masses - as "misery loves company" and IF he is going down - so should others....

I was asked couple of months ago what I think about "gh15 cycle recommendation" and when I read it - I was VERY DISTURBED - as amounts mentioned are prescription for a disaster...

I decided to SAVE SOME LIVES and put some sense into my getbig friends and fans (I LOVE YOU GUYS even if I sometimes act like I don't...YES, even you fatso...and all you guys that attack me - just because I am beautiful, strong, smart and Serbian...well maybe not beautiful or strong - but at least I have killer arms...)
Anyway...I posted amounts that SMART PROS USE - and most of you jumped on me calling me a lier?

Now, there are many, many.....MANY guys that came to me for a program - and all of them can confirm "my cycles" as I didn't change my mind ever since I started using and/or reccomanding...

Like I said: USING STEROIDS is one thing (I believe - very positive, CONSTRUCTIVE...GOOD by all means /I know I will be crucified for this statement - but whoever considers the facts - will understand WHAT I MEAN/...

ABUSING STEROIDS is something completely different - and AS MANY "IDIOTS" (like gh15 and his boys) take waaaaaaaaaaaay to much and way toooooooooooooo many AS for waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay toooooooooooooo loooooooooooooong - they turn something that could be good and HEALTHY (yes - healthy...as AGAIN: anabolic steroids are medicaments used mostly in treatment of critically catabolic patients...) into something BAD!

Promoting CONSTRUCTIVE METABOLISM (anabolic and anti-catabolic action of these "drugs" could/should be used MUCH MORE OFTEN in medical practices - and I am convinced that ONE OF THESE DAYS - doctors will realize that many conditions could be reversed by administration of even modest amounts of these drugs...but that's another story) - is certainly good thing but abusing even the best things (including drinking water) could and eventually WILL - KILL YOU...

Guys - be smart and THINK...and I am sure that IF you think long enough - you'll find all the right answers...

The truth is - many guys came to me as they've seen incredibly fast progress of the guys I prepare - so everyone BEFORE coming to see me - believed that  I am doing "something special"...Some exciting, exotic, never before seen supplement (or drug) taken in HUGE amounts without ever taking a break...or having team of medical doctors injecting who knows what on daily bases...while at night we would be hooked  on IV drip...

As I started: "the truth is" - first thing they would say after I give them my recommendations is: " ARE YOU SERIOUS?"
Or " you mean PER DAY - certainly NOT PER WEEK...RIGHT?"

I am telling you again that our Olympia contenders ARE indeed on less drugs than NOVICE DIVISION competitors at the Orange County Muscle Classic...You want to believe me (with LONG list of pros I am working with in the past decade or so) or someone who can't even post under his real name claiming that he lives with Elvis, have a brain, three balls (all 3 implants as he lost what he had and couldn't remember how much he suppose to have so he SWEARS /and NEVER LIES / that he indeed had three since he was born...etc...etc...

Do the math

Milos, given that what you are saying is true (that today's top pros take very reasonable amounts of androgenics, steroids and hormones), could you explain why nowadays we see so many bloated stomachs and distended guts (also among those pros you mentioned)?
It seems that something that wasn't happening in the 70's and 80's is going on...

[Milos_Sarcev]

i am going to have to agree with Milos!   


great post man!   


i also believe Priest in saying he only uses like 400 deca, primo, and a few others, and thats it.

Per minute?

Just kidding...I talked to Lee and he told me that besides Viagra and Preparation H he doesn't take much else..
Well, I didn't share with him that my snake oil also makes people grow taller...if they are under 4 feet tall (and he certainly belongs to that group...I think?)

[G o a t b o y]

Per minute?

Just kidding...I talked to Lee and he told me that besides Viagra and Preparation H he doesn't take much else..
Well, I didn't share with him that my snake oil also makes people grow taller...if they are under 4 feet tall (and he certainly belongs to that group...I think?)

Will Lee be the first sponsored athlete for Snake Oil^TM?

[biceps]

 Eseclin was a better and safer than Syntol.