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Religion is Horseshit
« on: August 22, 2007, 07:36:50 PM »
Here's what I know, sorry - think.


Religion, whether organised and communal or private personal faith, is a fundamental nonsense.

I mean, people who believe in some supreme being that they've never seen, gotta be nuts. Psychotic if ya wanna get technical.

Those who claim to believe in such a thing, because it brings approval from other idiots, they are just liars.

Ergo: Religion = Horseshit.


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Re: Religion is Horseshit
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2007, 07:42:23 PM »
I think you would be a nine percenter?   :)   

God’s Numbers
The latest NEWSWEEK poll shows that 91 percent of American adults surveyed believe in God—and nearly half reject the theory of evolution.
 
By Brian Braiker
Newsweek
Updated: 9:04 a.m. HT March 31, 2007
March 30, 2007 - A belief in God and an identification with an organized religion are widespread throughout the country, according to the latest NEWSWEEK poll. Nine in 10 (91 percent) of American adults say they believe in God and almost as many (87 percent) say they identify with a specific religion. Christians far outnumber members of any other faith in the country, with 82 percent of the poll’s respondents identifying themselves as such. Another 5 percent say they follow a non-Christian faith, such as Judaism or Islam. Nearly half (48 percent) of the public rejects the scientific theory of evolution; one-third (34 percent) of college graduates say they accept the Biblical account of creation as fact. Seventy-three percent of Evangelical Protestants say they believe that God created humans in their present form within the last 10,000 years; 39 percent of non-Evangelical Protestants and 41 percent of Catholics agree with that view.

Although one in ten (10 percent) of Americans identify themselves as having "no religion," only six percent said they don’t believe in a God at all. Just 3 percent of the public self-identifies as atheist, suggesting that the term may carry some stigma. Still, the poll suggests that the public’s tolerance of this small minority has increased in recent years. Nearly half (47 percent) of the respondents felt the country is more accepting of atheists today that it used to be and slightly more (49 percent) reported personally knowing an atheist. Those numbers are higher among respondents under 30 years old, 62 percent of whom report knowing an atheist (compared to just 43 percent of those 50 and older). Sixty-one percent of the under-30 cohort view society as more accepting of atheists (compared to 40 percent of the Americans 50 and older).

Still, it is unlikely that a political candidate would serve him or herself well by declaring their atheism. Six in ten (62 percent) registered voters say they would not vote for a candidate who is an atheist. Majorities of each major party — 78 percent of Repulicans and 60 percent of Democrats — rule out such an option. Just under half (45 percent) of registered independents would not vote for an atheist. Still more than a third (36 percent) of Americans think the influence of organized religion on American politics has increased in recent years. But the public is still split over whether religion has too much (32 percent) or too little (31 percent) influence on American politics. Democrats tend to fall in the "too much" camp (42 percent of them, as opposed to 29 percent who see too little influence) as Republicans take the opposite view (42 percent too little; 14 percent too much). In the poll, 68 percent of respondents said they believed someone could be moral and an atheist, compared to 26 percent who said it was not possible.

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Re: Religion is Horseshit
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2007, 08:10:49 PM »
Religion is teh Green Horse.


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Re: Religion is Horseshit
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2007, 08:23:49 PM »
religion sucks.

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Re: Religion is Horseshit
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2007, 08:32:22 PM »
Dunno what the Green Horse bit means. Let me know?  ???

As for that survey... all that means is that 91% of Americans are liars, weirdos or confused fuckheads.

Or they just thought Hey I'm being axed a question 'bout Gawd, better give the answer folks expect of me!

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Re: Religion is Horseshit
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2007, 08:42:52 PM »
Dunno what the Green Horse bit means. Let me know?  ???

As for that survey... all that means is that 91% of Americans are liars, weirdos or confused fuckheads.

Or they just thought Hey I'm being axed a question 'bout Gawd, better give the answer folks expect of me!

TNBT  :P

Can you explain the expanse of the universe; because I think that is what we are all looking for? We just wanna know how we got here and where we are going or are we going anywhere (I am referring to the human race when I say we FYI)! thanks!
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Re: Religion is Horseshit
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2007, 10:06:37 PM »
Can you explain the expanse of the universe; because I think that is what we are all looking for? We just wanna know how we got here and where we are going or are we going anywhere (I am referring to the human race when I say we FYI)! thanks!

The prevailing theory is that quantum fluctuations in the vacuum of space were pulled far apart during the Big Bang. Normally these fluctuations result in pairs of virtual particles that come into existence briefly and then annihilate each other. However, the rapid expansion of the universe during the Big Bang separated these particle pairs before they had time to couple thus making them 'real.' The particles created by quantum fluctuations have the ability to become either matter or energy.

American Scientist (peer reviewed journal)
http://www.americanscientist.org/template/AssetDetail/assetid/14770

Matter and energy were interchangeable during the earliest moments after the Big Bang. Colliding photons formed particle-pairs, and matter/anti-matter annihilation created photons. The very instant these photons were created, they immediately converted into matter and vice versa. It wasn't until 10-12 sec. after the Big Bang that quarks and electrons were able to exist separate from photons.

http://archive.ncsa.uiuc.edu/Cyberia/Cosmos/InTheBeginning.html

http://www.astronomy.ohio-state.edu/~pogge/Ast162/Unit5/early.html

As space expanded, it began to cool down. The universe entered the nucleosynthesis epoch during which the first hydrogen atoms began to form. However, the distribution of hydrogen gas in the universe was not homogenous. Over time, regions of higher density collapsed and coalesced due to gravitational forces. These clouds of collapsing interstellar hydrogen were so massive that the gravitational forces at the center caused the atoms to ignite in a process called fusion. Thus the first stars in our universe were born.

The process of fusion produces many new elements. Stars fuse hydrogen to helium, and helium to heavier atoms. Heavier elements are formed in denser areas of the star. These elements were blasted out into space when the earliest stars underwent supernova.

There is evidence that heavy-element formation occurs in stars.

"observations in red giants of one kind of nucleus – 99technetium – provides direct evidence that heavy-element formation really does occur in stars today."

Wright Center for Science Education
http://www.tufts.edu/as/wright_center/cosmic_evolution/docs/text/text_stel_6.html

The newly formed elements that were casted into space existed in the form of rocks and gas clouds, which coalesced to form planets, moons, and other celestial bodies. It was only a matter of time before the elements released from stars gathered on one of the planets that is hospitable for life, such as Earth, and combined to form molecules that combined to form amino acids, which evolved into very simple cells, and thus life began.

It is believed the earliest signs of life appeared 600 million years after the earth formed. These life forms were possibly derived from self-reproducing RNA molecules. The replication of these organisms required resources which soon became limited, resulting in natural selection. DNA molecules then took over as the main replicators. They began to develop inside enclosed membranes which provided a stable environment for replication: proto-cells. 100 million years passed before cells resembling prokaryotes appeared. These organisms were chemoautotrophs. Another 900 million years passed before photosynthesizing cyanobacteria evolved which produced oxygen. The oxygen concentration in the atmosphere subsequently rose. Eventually, more complex cells began to appear: the eukaryotes. After 2 billion years, the first multicellular organisms evolved. Natural selection fueled the evolutionary radiation that occurred during the last 1 billion years. Homo sapiens (modern humans) didn't appear until approximately 200,000 years ago.

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Re: Religion is Horseshit
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2007, 05:12:06 AM »
religion sucks.

I agree with you, Camel Jockey!

Now, a relationship with Jesus Christ, that is different!    ;D

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Re: Religion is Horseshit
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2007, 07:57:12 AM »
I agree with you, Camel Jockey!

Now, a relationship with Jesus Christ, that is different!    ;D

John 17:3
"Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent."
I do believe in a god.  I don't think a personal relationship with Jesus Christ is remotely possible or real.  I think we value all things along secular humanist lines (b/c that is all we really know) and religious folk use biblical references to justify their prejudices regarding the conclusions drawn from everyday experience.  Religion is the ultimate rhetorical device b/c what person can challenge god?

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Re: Religion is Horseshit
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2007, 08:16:26 AM »
I do believe in a god.  I don't think a personal relationship with Jesus Christ is remotely possible or real.  I think we value all things along secular humanist lines (b/c that is all we really know) and religious folk use biblical references to justify their prejudices regarding the conclusions drawn from everyday experience.  Religion is the ultimate rhetorical device b/c what person can challenge god?

Fair enough, Decker!  I, for one, know from personal experience, and later through reading the Bible, that a personal relationship with Jesus Christ is not only possible, but very real as well.

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Re: Religion is Horseshit
« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2007, 08:42:01 AM »
Fair enough, Decker!  I, for one, know from personal experience, and later through reading the Bible, that a personal relationship with Jesus Christ is not only possible, but very real as well.
Hey, what do I know?  From my own limited foray into daily experience, speculative thought and academic research I come to these conclusions of mine.  I respect your candor.  Just b/c we disagree doesn't diminish or contradict our respective assertions.

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Re: Religion is Horseshit
« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2007, 09:00:37 AM »
Hey, what do I know?  From my own limited foray into daily experience, speculative thought and academic research I come to these conclusions of mine.  I respect your candor.  Just b/c we disagree doesn't diminish or contradict our respective assertions.

Thanks, Decker!  And I respect your opinion, knowledge and experience!

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Re: Religion is Horseshit
« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2007, 09:14:34 AM »
loco, I have a personal relationship with Our Lord the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

I pray that one day you too will be blessed with knowledge of the true god, Our Lord the Flying Spaghetti Monster, that He may bless you with His noodly appendage. RAMEN.

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Re: Religion is Horseshit
« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2007, 09:17:45 AM »
Thanks, Decker!  And I respect your opinion, knowledge and experience!
Thanks loco.


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Re: Religion is Horseshit
« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2007, 09:20:16 AM »
I agree with you, Camel Jockey!

Now, a relationship with Jesus Christ, that is different!    ;D

John 17:3
"Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent."
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Re: Religion is Horseshit
« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2007, 09:34:19 AM »
loco, I have a personal relationship with Our Lord the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

I pray that one day you too will be blessed with knowledge of the true god, Our Lord the Flying Spaghetti Monster, that He may bless you with His noodly appendage. RAMEN.

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Re: Religion is Horseshit
« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2007, 06:29:04 AM »
;D
Yeah, I like how it ends w/RAMEN ;D
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Re: Religion is Horseshit
« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2007, 08:43:52 AM »
Yep, as you guys have shown, I'm right!

A whole thread of horseshit.

Loco and Decker are too busy respecting each other to get any work done! I take it you guys are being smart-ass?

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Re: Religion is Horseshit
« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2007, 09:19:32 AM »
Religion has it's good points but it's about as perfect as a 3 sided hand drawn square.

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Re: Religion is Horseshit
« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2007, 10:04:09 AM »
Yep, as you guys have shown, I'm right!

A whole thread of horseshit.

Loco and Decker are too busy respecting each other to get any work done! I take it you guys are being smart-ass?

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You seem to be against organized religion viewing it as a collection of fairy tales.  I understand that.  But the religious impulse is in everyone, like it or not, b/c it deals with making some sort of sense out of the unknown such as the source of personal values which give rise to ideals and such.  Mythological/symbolic edification of the unknown--giving it a face or a moral code--is what organized religion is about.  Religiosity, the trappings of faith, debase the religious impulse even further--the crucifex, the menorrah, the Eucharist--all those smack of religiosity and in my opinion, idolatry.  That's a far cry from the original religious impulse common to us all.

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Re: Religion is Horseshit
« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2007, 03:42:57 PM »
loco, I have a personal relationship with Our Lord the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

I pray that one day you too will be blessed with knowledge of the true god, Our Lord the Flying Spaghetti Monster, that He may bless you with His noodly appendage. RAMEN.
also, if you heathens dont Convert and Submit to OLTFSM, to abandon your idols and false beliefs...........we will kill you.

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Re: Religion is Horseshit
« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2007, 06:19:11 PM »
also, if you heathens dont Convert and Submit to OLTFSM, to abandon your idols and false beliefs...........we will kill you.

No, no, we don't kill... but our God does!

But beware, loco and other idolaters, Our Lord the Flying Spaghetti Monster loves you, but if you don't worship Him He will FVKKIN KILL YOU!!!!!!

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« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2007, 07:21:36 PM »
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Re: Religion is Horseshit
« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2007, 07:28:40 PM »

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Re: Religion is Horseshit
« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2007, 07:50:22 PM »
Dass wot aaaaaaah'm talkin' 'bout!


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