trueprotein.com - Supplement revolution?

[SteelePegasus]

heh. Have you not see what I can do with ASP? www.mall23.com (check out the demos) for example ...? Language doesn't matter...I could do it in good old assembler if I had the time to code everything manually, and have done tons of inet stuff in C (not C++...ANSI C is faster multi-threaded, by far). I could code that puppy up in some nice ASP/JS AJAX in no time. The company I'm making now has AJAX on the site...smooth, I love AJAX...as well as parts of Mall23 (boom7 has some AJAX too - PHP/JS tho).


But I definately think they are onto something...just need to tweak it and deply a version II for those of us who are too lazy to figure out all the percentages manually.

Hey, I built a similar but more flexible framework using .net

http://netset.com/

features:

http://netset.com/features.aspx

actually when we were building our framework we came across mall23.com, we wanted to make fully template driving and also support most of the commn payment gateways. We also wanted to leverage ajax

let me know if you are building v2 in .net, I would love to exchange ideas

[garraeth]

Hey, I built a similar but more flexible framework using .net

http://netset.com/

features:

http://netset.com/features.aspx

actually when we were building our framework we came across mall23.com, we wanted to make fully template driving and also support most of the commn payment gateways. We also wanted to leverage ajax

let me know if you are building v2 in .net, I would love to exchange ideas

I always like to chat programming/inet...but right now am not working on V2. I found that w/o a team, it's too much for one lame duck programmer to do marketing, art, support, etc. So am focusing on my new project (well, "old" since I've been working on it for almost exactly a year) and am letting Mall23 stabilize (I'm not going after new clients) and support me during this time of new development.

Once we've gotten cash in the bank for this new project (we got a bit from angel, but next, we are licensing cuz we got the shiznit of a product...before VC - so we don't get raped when we do go to them), I'm going to sell Mall23...you can tell it's killing me not to say anything bout the new project, heh...dammit.



But the new project is PHP and MSSQL. Odd combo? I don't think so. After benchmarking, I found that combo (vs/ PHP/MySQL, ASP/MSSQL, ASP/MySQL) to be the fastest and most stable (PHP's got a ton of bugs, but so far, I've found workarounds for all of them - MySQL sucks sweaty donkey balls). I did consider .NET, but that's even more bloated (MS is the king of bloat on any new product) -- unless you code it 100% by hand (no dev studio bs)...but again, I think PHP is still faster.

And my AJAX is all hand-coded. I looked at Prototype, Scriptalicious, and the Yahoo API...all were mad bloat. Just sickening. I have a couple programmer geek friends who complained to me about not using the newest, coolest stuff, but they have never done business. Fuck new and cool -- I care about who has the dollars and how big my demographic is. Using shit like Prototype or Yahoo means visitors have to have a computer no older than about a year -- or the experience sucks. Sucks. sucks. My mom, on her 5 year old Windows XP computer has to be able to use the site w/ no pauses or freezing while the browser renders the page. I actually had a programmer friend completely meltdown when I emailed him my decision not to go w/ the trendy stuff...it's religious.(seriously, told me to fuck off -- I still have the email -- he was on this project till I made that decision and he melted and said he was out...I was/am coding 100% of the fucken thing, so it's my prerogative to make such an executive decision)

But I love AJAX -- not DHTML, AJAX. Everyone confuses the two.  Best thing since HTML. You can make super clean code by shifting your paradigm (article I wrote about it: www.mall23.com/Aug_2006_Mailer.html). Completely hidden code (save the itty-bitty bit of JS). Super robust -- no shit dealing w/ 500 browser/OS combos and 500 different ways of doing something in JS...just process it on the server...

As you can see, I can pretty much go on forever...

[Markoni]

my trueprotein stack of whey protein   

[NeverTrustABlonde]

www.proteinfactory.com is beter

i agree

[Alex23]

I'm guessing you're Michael Steele?

I always like to chat programming/inet...but right now am not working on V2. I found that w/o a team, it's too much for one lame duck programmer to do marketing, art, support, etc. So am focusing on my new project (well, "old" since I've been working on it for almost exactly a year) and am letting Mall23 stabilize (I'm not going after new clients) and support me during this time of new development.

Once we've gotten cash in the bank for this new project (we got a bit from angel, but next, we are licensing cuz we got the shiznit of a product...before VC - so we don't get raped when we do go to them), I'm going to sell Mall23...you can tell it's killing me not to say anything bout the new project, heh...dammit.



But the new project is PHP and MSSQL. Odd combo? I don't think so. After benchmarking, I found that combo (vs/ PHP/MySQL, ASP/MSSQL, ASP/MySQL) to be the fastest and most stable (PHP's got a ton of bugs, but so far, I've found workarounds for all of them - MySQL sucks sweaty donkey balls). I did consider .NET, but that's even more bloated (MS is the king of bloat on any new product) -- unless you code it 100% by hand (no dev studio bs)...but again, I think PHP is still faster.

And my AJAX is all hand-coded. I looked at Prototype, Scriptalicious, and the Yahoo API...all were mad bloat. Just sickening. I have a couple programmer geek friends who complained to me about not using the newest, coolest stuff, but they have never done business. Fuck new and cool -- I care about who has the dollars and how big my demographic is. Using shit like Prototype or Yahoo means visitors have to have a computer no older than about a year -- or the experience sucks. Sucks. sucks. My mom, on her 5 year old Windows XP computer has to be able to use the site w/ no pauses or freezing while the browser renders the page. I actually had a programmer friend completely meltdown when I emailed him my decision not to go w/ the trendy stuff...it's religious.(seriously, told me to fuck off -- I still have the email -- he was on this project till I made that decision and he melted and said he was out...I was/am coding 100% of the fucken thing, so it's my prerogative to make such an executive decision)

But I love AJAX -- not DHTML, AJAX. Everyone confuses the two.  Best thing since HTML. You can make super clean code by shifting your paradigm (article I wrote about it: www.mall23.com/Aug_2006_Mailer.html). Completely hidden code (save the itty-bitty bit of JS). Super robust -- no shit dealing w/ 500 browser/OS combos and 500 different ways of doing something in JS...just process it on the server...

As you can see, I can pretty much go on forever...

Any of you geekos has ever looked into "Ruby on rails" http://www.rubyonrails.org/ ?

Many of our customers are asking for a Teradata adaptation.

[garraeth]

Any of you geekos has ever looked into "Ruby on rails" http://www.rubyonrails.org/ ?

Many of our customers are asking for a Teradata adaptation.

Yup...and rails is just a library to help you do "web 2.0" stuff, yey. Just another fad imo. Sure it's got some nice features...and some shitty things...but what language (Ruby), or library (Rails) doesn't? It's a big "whatever" in my book. It's like Perl -- not language-wise, but fad-wise. Hyped to the guys who don't know any better...once they use it and realize it's nothing special, they'll drop it for something more mainstream like .net or php because there is better support and no true difference. It's like ColdFusion, Perl, Java, etc...

I had (have, still doing the project) a client who came to me and said he wanted his site in "Web 2.0" (he obviously didn't even know what that was and was just spouting catch phrases, gawd... ), so wanted me to develop it in Ruby. Guy knows nothing about the inet, much less development. So I said, sure -- but it'll be about 10x the time of development because I've got tons of legacy code I can use if we do it in ASP or PHP...and there won't be a single thing different in the final product -- except, of course you have to install Ruby on the server -- most hosts don't install that by default.

People think if you're going to do "Web 2.0" or AJAX, you have to use such a framework. Only if you're just starting out w/o any legacy code (I've already written my own AJAX libraries, and if you really know what Web 2.0 is, you'll realize asking for a "Web 2.0 library" makes no sense) and need a crutch so you can use their libraries.

But yea, I can see a big dumb company asking to convert their existing systems into Ruby. Great way to blow tons of money for no benefit. One reason I can't stand working for corporations...excessive waste from idiotic directives dolled out by dumb middle-management trying to make themselves look knowledgable.

[Alex23]

Yup...and rails is just a library to help you do "web 2.0" stuff, yey. Just another fad imo. Sure it's got some nice features...and some shitty things...but what language (Ruby), or library (Rails) doesn't? It's a big "whatever" in my book. It's like Perl -- not language-wise, but fad-wise. Hyped to the guys who don't know any better...once they use it and realize it's nothing special, they'll drop it for something more mainstream like .net or php because there is better support and no true difference. It's like ColdFusion, Perl, Java, etc...

I had (have, still doing the project) a client who came to me and said he wanted his site in "Web 2.0" (he obviously didn't even know what that was and was just spouting catch phrases, gawd... ), so wanted me to develop it in Ruby. Guy knows nothing about the inet, much less development. So I said, sure -- but it'll be about 10x the time of development because I've got tons of legacy code I can use if we do it in ASP or PHP...and there won't be a single thing different in the final product -- except, of course, file names. whohoo! ..oh, and I guess you have to install Ruby on the server -- most hosts don't install that by default.

Hahahah I know the "type" ... was he extremely skinny, sporting a pair of thick frame suglasses, very metro sexual and had his "myspace" page on his business card?

People think if you're going to do "Web 2.0" or AJAX, you have to use such a framework. Only if you're just starting out w/o any legacy code (I've already written my own AJAX libraries, and if you really know what Web 2.0 is, you'll realize asking for a "Web 2.0 library" makes no sense) and need a crutch so you can use their libraries.

But yea, I can see a big dumb company asking to convert their existing systems into Ruby. Great way to blow tons of money for no benefit. One reason I can't stand working for corporations...excessive waste from idiotic directives dolled out by dumb middle-management trying to make themselves look knowledgable.

Dude, could you do a seminar for my engineers and get that inside of their tiny little heads? Every quarter I hear a yahoo claiming that we need to integrate the latest buzzord framework fad inot our shit and throw away code (many of it I wrote myself 3-4yrs ago). Lately they're stuck on "Hibernate" and "Spring Framework". They want to re-write (i hate that word) our objects to RDBMS serialization mechanism, which of course is with zero total benefits. Plus I wrote that code 4 years ago and it's totally stable and doing the job.

[garraeth]

Hahahah I know the "type" ... was he extremely skinny, sporting a pair of thick frame suglasses, very metro sexual and had his "myspace" page on his business card?

Pretty close. Definately metrosexual, artsy-fartsy type. I'm not finishing their project (I told them I was done w/ them after this last milestone), but once it's up (if he ever gets it finished), I'll post the url here...imo it's the most dumbest web2.0est VC-raping typical does-nothing website. But he thinks its going to make him a billionare. 

Dude, could you do a seminar for my engineers and get that inside of their tiny little heads? Every quarter I hear a yahoo claiming that we need to integrate the latest buzzord framework fad inot our shit and throw away code (many of it I wrote myself 3-4yrs ago). Lately they're stuck on "Hibernate" and "Spring Framework". They want to re-write (i hate that word) our objects to RDBMS serialization mechanism, which of course is with zero total benefits. Plus I wrote that code 4 years ago and it's totally stable and doing the job.

Yup...takes brains...

[Alex23]

Pretty close. Definately metrosexual, artsy-fartsy type. I'm not finishing their project (I told them I was done w/ them after this last milestone), but once it's up (if he ever gets it finished), I'll post the url here...imo it's the most dumbest web2.0est VC-raping typical does-nothing website. But he thinks its going to make him a billionare.  

Aren't they all? Oh brother...

[SteelePegasus]

the latest fad appears to be action script 3 with Flex3.0
I have turned down a bunch of projects because it called me to use that technology



by the way I am looking for CMS tool ike Diggs..would any guys know of any?

I am too busy to write my own and vBulletin board is not free

[garraeth]

the latest fad appears to be action script 3 with Flex3.0
I have turned down a bunch of projects because it called me to use that technology



by the way I am looking for CMS tool ike Diggs..would any guys know of any?

I am too busy to write my own and vBulletin board is not free

You mean like Digg? There's Pligg: http://www.pligg.com/

[BroadStreetBruiser]

never liked the taste of True Protein. that's the ghey

[D.L. 5]

never liked the taste of True Protein. that's the ghey

my opinion is, when it comes to protein...its worth paying abit more and getting from a brand (just find cheapest supplier).

shit like creatine on the otherhand, who cares, just get pure monohydrate in bulk.

[Van_Bilderass]

my trueprotein stack of whey protein   

I doubt my hands would fit in the small canisters. Anyone ever ask Dante to make bigger canisters?

[Markoni]

I doubt my hands would fit in the small canisters. Anyone ever ask Dante to make bigger canisters?

on that pic :
4x5lb
8x2lb

they have Plastic Wide Mouth Jugs 1lb ,2lb and 5lb  , you can find them here :
http://www.trueprotein.com/product_listings.aspx?cid=57

also you can choose free food grade bag , like its says food grade bags are free , jugs you have to pay

[Alex23]

I doubt my hands would fit in the small canisters. Anyone ever ask Dante to make bigger canisters?

GH hands ?

[Van_Bilderass]

GH hands ?

Hahah, I was only kidding. Remember Dante's disciples asking for wide mouth jugs because they were getting cuts from the small ones?

[Markoni]

GH hands ?

lol 

[ali23]

(serious) can someone help me put together a milos like shake with that site?

[Markoni]

(serious) can someone help me put together a milos like shake with that site?

Amino Preload HA

5% leucine
25% EAA
10% creatine mono
5% l-arginin
10% l-glutamine
45% maltodextrine

[Markoni]

(serious) can someone help me put together a milos like shake with that site?

Amino XXpload AC

30% EAA
5% bcaa
10% glutamine
5% arginine
15% creatine mono
35% Malto

[Markoni]

(serious) can someone help me put together a milos like shake with that site?

Amino Reload HT

25% EAA
10% BCAA
5% leucine
5% creatine mono
5% glutamine
45% maltodextrine



something like this



I cant see what his protein contains , so post here and I will copy and that supp ?

  if you want to save money order 16lb or more this way you will get 5% discount , also you can always use discount code  MOU110 and save 5% on your trueprotein order

[El Diablo Blanco]

Amino Reload HT

25% EAA
10% BCAA
5% leucine
5% creatine mono
5% glutamine
45% maltodextrine



something like this



I cant see what his protein contains , so post here and I will copy and that supp ?

  if you want to save money order 16lb or more this way you will get 5% discount , also you can always use discount code  MOU110 and save 5% on your trueprotein order

45% maltodextrine  is incorrect.  Use Waxi Maize.  Milos uses Vitargo which is pretty much Waxy Maize.

[Markoni]

I was thinking to recommend that , instead maltodextrine to put WMS 

on labels its maltodextrine and dextrose

[El Diablo Blanco]

I was thinking to recommend that , instead maltodextrine to put WMS 

on labels its maltodextrine and dextrose

I didn't check his label.  I guess either WM was too pricey and ruined his profit margin so he went with the cheap shit.  His recipe always stated Vitargo.  I wonder why he changed.