Author Topic: Greg Panora (Read 11666 times)

BM OUT · « **Reply #25 on:** August 27, 2007, 07:34:03 AM »

There is NOTHING funnier then guys ,who cant lift crap,getting on here and bash lifters who they will NEVER be like.First of all ,Westside has at least 16 guys who pull over 800lbs.Any other gym in the history of the world that can claim that?Any of them?The legendary Golds?Bev Francis' gym?Any gym,that can claim that?Greg Panora does something that no man ever has done and he gets knocked.Guys claiming his squat was high.Obviously a bunch of know nothings.The rule is break parallel.Thats all.Kirk squatted deeper then he had to,as did Eddy.Panaras squat is just as legal as theirs.However,when Waddington is brought up,I have to laugh out loud.A guy who was known as a high squatter and never did his huge squats at a national meet.Oh thats right,he lifted "back in the day" and everything is always better back then.Stick to arguing about whos shooting oil in the delts because when it comes to powerlifting you guys are clueless.

The Squadfather · « **Reply #26 on:** August 27, 2007, 07:41:32 AM »

Quote from: BILLY MIMNAUGH on August 27, 2007, 07:34:03 AM

There is NOTHING funnier then guys ,who cant lift crap,getting on here and bash lifters who they will NEVER be like.First of all ,Westside has at least 16 guys who pull over 800lbs.Any other gym in the history of the world that can claim that?Any of them?The legendary Golds?Bev Francis' gym?Any gym,that can claim that?Greg Panora does something that no man ever has done and he gets knocked.Guys claiming his squat was high.Obviously a bunch of know nothings.The rule is break parallel.Thats all.Kirk squatted deeper then he had to,as did Eddy.Panaras squat is just as legal as theirs.However,when Waddington is brought up,I have to laugh out loud.A guy who was known as a high squatter and never did his huge squats at a national meet.Oh thats right,he lifted "back in the day" and everything is always better back then.Stick to arguing about whos shooting oil in the delts because when it comes to powerlifting you guys are clueless.

you tell 'em Billy.

chris_mason · « **Reply #27 on:** August 27, 2007, 08:52:20 AM »

I think coach summed it up nicely.

Chris

chris_mason · « **Reply #28 on:** August 27, 2007, 08:55:03 AM »

Quote from: BILLY MIMNAUGH on August 27, 2007, 07:34:03 AM

There is NOTHING funnier then guys ,who cant lift crap,getting on here and bash lifters who they will NEVER be like.First of all ,Westside has at least 16 guys who pull over 800lbs.Any other gym in the history of the world that can claim that?Any of them?The legendary Golds?Bev Francis' gym?Any gym,that can claim that?Greg Panora does something that no man ever has done and he gets knocked.Guys claiming his squat was high.Obviously a bunch of know nothings.The rule is break parallel.Thats all.Kirk squatted deeper then he had to,as did Eddy.Panaras squat is just as legal as theirs.However,when Waddington is brought up,I have to laugh out loud.A guy who was known as a high squatter and never did his huge squats at a national meet.Oh thats right,he lifted "back in the day" and everything is always better back then.Stick to arguing about whos shooting oil in the delts because when it comes to powerlifting you guys are clueless.

They are ill-informed/clueless AND opinionated. That is the WORST combination possible and it is all pervasive in the world today. It is too bad really.

The Squadfather · « **Reply #29 on:** August 27, 2007, 08:58:05 AM »

Quote from: chris_mason on August 27, 2007, 08:55:03 AM

They are ill-informed/clueless AND opinionated. That is the WORST combination possible and it is all pervasive in the world today. It is too bad really.

yeah anyone who has a different opinion than the Great Chris Mason is "ill-informed and clueless".

BM OUT · « **Reply #30 on:** August 27, 2007, 09:24:24 AM »

Having an opinion is one thing,but guys claiming Westside cant deadlift,IS NOT an opinion,its a downright stupid ass post and totally without merit,based on nothing.Guys get on here and say Panoras squat isnt like Lee Morans squat,hey,what did Lee Moran pull again?Westside barbell has produced more 800 pound deadlifters then ANY gym in the history of the world,for anyone to question their training methods based on their deadlifts is the single dumbest thing Ive ever seen.

Gino30 · « **Reply #31 on:** August 28, 2007, 03:20:31 AM »

Quote from: The Squadfather on August 27, 2007, 06:03:31 AM

why don't you send Andy a video of yourself pulling your massive 365 max and show him how it's done, you huge monster?

Gino "do you get milk with those titys?" Gambino

midwestmuscle · « **Reply #32 on:** August 28, 2007, 05:07:50 AM »

You forgot to mention my good friend Shawn "superfreak" Frankl was the best lifter at the meet. His lifts in the 198 class were bench 760 squat 930 and deads 710 total 2400lbs. First person ever in the 198 class to total 2400. Shawn brought home $9,300 and lifts with the Big Iron crew.

Hedgehog · « **Reply #33 on:** August 28, 2007, 05:19:22 AM »

Quote from: chris_mason on August 25, 2007, 08:16:09 PM

I was just writing a breif recap of the 2007 Power Station Pro-Am powerlifting meet I attended last weekend in Franklin, Ohio. It was an amazing meet with over $22,000 in cash being doled out to the lifters.

The highlight of the meet was the all-time record total set by Greg Panora. The man did a 2,600 lbs total in the 242 lbs weight class!!!!

To understand how ridiculous that is, you need to understand that only a very short time ago a 2,600 lbs total was only a dream for even the strongest superheavyweight lifters. This guy did it at 242 lbs!!!!

His lifts were as follows:

Squat - 1050 lbs
Bench - 750 lbs
Deadlift - 800 lbs

Total - 2,600 lbs!!!

Here is a video of his squat:

His total is a testament to his physical strength potential, strength of mind, and the efficacy of the Westside training methods (www.westside-barbell.com) espoused by strength guru Louie Simmons.

Incredible stuff!

Would be interesting to get Westside's reason for not lifting in federations with strict rules, such as USPF.

The Squadfather · « **Reply #34 on:** August 28, 2007, 05:50:33 AM »

Quote from: BILLY MIMNAUGH on August 27, 2007, 09:24:24 AM

Having an opinion is one thing,but guys claiming Westside cant deadlift,IS NOT an opinion,its a downright stupid ass post and totally without merit,based on nothing.Guys get on here and say Panoras squat isnt like Lee Morans squat,hey,what did Lee Moran pull again?Westside barbell has produced more 800 pound deadlifters then ANY gym in the history of the world,for anyone to question their training methods based on their deadlifts is the single dumbest thing Ive ever seen.

don't ever mention Lee Moran, chicken legs, he could shoulder press what you bench.

jr · « **Reply #35 on:** August 28, 2007, 05:56:46 AM »

A famous olympic weightlifter once said: "The powerlifts are half lifts"

chris_mason · « **Reply #36 on:** August 28, 2007, 06:34:18 AM »

Quote from: The Squadfather on August 27, 2007, 08:58:05 AM

yeah anyone who has a different opinion than the Great Chris Mason is "ill-informed and clueless".

No, not true at all.

That said, people with a heck of a lot less exposure to the sport (often times NONE) expressing ignorant opinions is just stupid. That same tendency applies to just about everything in the world these days (as probably always has).

chris_mason · « **Reply #37 on:** August 28, 2007, 06:35:24 AM »

Quote from: midwestmuscle on August 28, 2007, 05:07:50 AM

You forgot to mention my good friend Shawn "superfreak" Frankl was the best lifter at the meet. His lifts in the 198 class were bench 760 squat 930 and deads 710 total 2400lbs. First person ever in the 198 class to total 2400. Shawn brought home $9,300 and lifts with the Big Iron crew.

That was equally amazing to me! An icredible lifter!!!

chris_mason · « **Reply #38 on:** August 28, 2007, 06:36:57 AM »

Quote from: jr on August 28, 2007, 05:56:46 AM

A famous olympic weightlifter once said: "The powerlifts are half lifts"

That's great

, and an expression of someone trying to defend the validity of their sport at the expense of another.

The Squadfather · « **Reply #39 on:** August 28, 2007, 07:24:21 AM »

Quote from: chris_mason on August 28, 2007, 06:34:18 AM

No, not true at all.

That said, people with a heck of a lot less exposure to the sport (often times NONE) expressing ignorant opinions is just stupid. That same tendency applies to just about everything in the world these days (as probably always has).

how do you know how many powerlifting meets i've been to, Chris?

Hedgehog · « **Reply #40 on:** August 28, 2007, 07:32:31 AM »

Quote from: chris_mason on August 28, 2007, 06:35:24 AM

That was equally amazing to me! An icredible lifter!!!

Neither of those lifters could carry this "womans" gymbag:

Zaugalova, doing a squat (S-Q-U-A-T)
http://ironscene.com/view_video.php?viewkey=101e2c58bd89ec149400

Nothing like Highsquat Barbell Club.

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #41 on:** August 28, 2007, 07:39:22 AM »

Quote from: chris_mason on August 28, 2007, 06:34:18 AM

No, not true at all.

That said, people with a heck of a lot less exposure to the sport (often times NONE) expressing ignorant opinions is just stupid. That same tendency applies to just about everything in the world these days (as probably always has).

You are a sponsor in powerlifting community so you have to play this like a politician. You don't want to upset anyone, regardless of which fed they lift in, so you can't have a public opinion that is negative, even if you think it.

Al-Gebra · « **Reply #42 on:** August 28, 2007, 07:56:52 AM »

Quote from: Hedgehog on August 28, 2007, 07:32:31 AM

Neither of those lifters could carry this "womans" gymbag:

Zaugalova, doing a squat (S-Q-U-A-T)
http://ironscene.com/view_video.php?viewkey=101e2c58bd89ec149400

Nothing like Highsquat Barbell Club.

the spotter w flip-flops was great.

got to love russians.

chris_mason · « **Reply #43 on:** August 28, 2007, 08:38:05 AM »

Quote from: Hedgehog on August 28, 2007, 07:32:31 AM

Neither of those lifters could carry this "womans" gymbag:

Zaugalova, doing a squat (S-Q-U-A-T)
http://ironscene.com/view_video.php?viewkey=101e2c58bd89ec149400

Nothing like Highsquat Barbell Club.

First, her squat was VERY impressive.

Next, to make a statement like that is just retarded.

chris_mason · « **Reply #44 on:** August 28, 2007, 08:40:00 AM »

Quote from: The Squadfather on August 28, 2007, 07:24:21 AM

how do you know how many powerlifting meets i've been to, Chris?

I don't.

What I do know is the incredibly stupid shit you normally post on this site. Those comments plus your specific comments in this thread indicate you don't know much about the sport other than what a cursory interest in strength sports might impart.

The Squadfather · « **Reply #45 on:** August 28, 2007, 08:41:34 AM »

Quote from: chris_mason on August 28, 2007, 08:40:00 AM

I don't.

What I do know is the incredibly stupid shit you normally post on this site. Those comments plus your specific comments in this thread indicate you don't know much about the sport other than what a cursory interest in strength sports might impart.

are you honestly going to try to tell me that these huge Monolift half squats are as legitimate as Kazmaier, Rienhoudt or Karwoski's squats?

chris_mason · « **Reply #46 on:** August 28, 2007, 08:43:36 AM »

Quote from: Van_Bilderass on August 28, 2007, 07:39:22 AM

You are a sponsor in powerlifting community so you have to play this like a politician. You don't want to upset anyone, regardless of which fed they lift in, so you can't have a public opinion that is negative, even if you think it.

Not really. Why do you think I am sponsor in the community? I do so because I LOVE brute strength and that is what powerlifting embodies. In addition, there are people like Louie and his wife in the community whom I know and respect.

If you know anything about powerlifting you know there is a lot of ignorance on this board about the sport. Sure, there are some people who know of what they speak, but there are a lot more teens and men in the early 20s who have no idea and express ideas based upon powerlifting stereotypes. Think of the threads about fat powerlifters or the thread about why would I want to be strong, I just want to look strong. The list of ignorance goes on and on...

chris_mason · « **Reply #47 on:** August 28, 2007, 08:46:43 AM »

Quote from: The Squadfather on August 28, 2007, 08:41:34 AM

are you honestly going to try to tell me that these huge Monolift half squats are as legitimate as Kazmaier, Rienhoudt or Karwoski's squats?

Yes.

They are performed under different conditions, but that does not make the less legitimate? That argument makes no sense. You do realize Kaz and Kirk both wore squat suits? You do realize that there was a lot of cheating even in the pre-gear days (pre-suits etc.)?

In any event, Kaz and the rest you mentioned would have squatted more in today's gear than they did in their prime. That is not a question. It does not invalidate the best lifts of today, it just makes them hard to compare to each other.

Chris

The Squadfather · « **Reply #48 on:** August 28, 2007, 08:48:22 AM »

Quote from: chris_mason on August 28, 2007, 08:46:43 AM

Yes.

They are performed under different conditions, but that does not make the less legitimate? That argument makes no sense. You do realize Kaz and Kirk both wore squat suits? You do realize that there was a lot of cheating even in the pre-gear days (pre-suits etc.)?

In any event, Kaz and the rest you mentioned would have squatted more in today's gear than they did in their prime. That is not a question. It does not invalidate the best lifts of today, it just makes them hard to compare to each other.

Chris

i'm not talking about suits genious, i'm talking about depth.

BM OUT · « **Reply #49 on:** August 28, 2007, 10:52:48 AM »

Lee Moran was a very strong man and one of the best squatters and benchers ever,but HE COULDNT PULL SHIT!!!!!!!!I CAN DEADLIFT MORE AT 242 THEN HE COULD AT 300+ POUNDS.By the way,I would be willing to bet ANY amount of money the "squadfather" wants to compare my legs to his legs.Lastly,Westside lifts in REAL feds not the dead ass USPF with their one meet per year.The USPF has been dead for ten years.If it wasnt for Eddy no one would even know it exists.