Ok hulkster I will put it to you like this...in terms of proportion, lee wins, in terms of size, lee wins, in terms of condition/cuts, ronnie wins, biceps-ronnie, tris-lee, forearms-lee, so out of all those categories, ronnie wins two and lee wins the rest, making him the overall winner...no one is saying ronnie doesn't have fantastic arms, but they just aren't on par with lee's...