GH I've doubted you in the past and hated but upon further review of your posts you've got a great amount of knowledge that I now have nothing but respect for, its very apparent you've been around.
Would you do me a favor and tell me what you think Ulisses is on and give me an idea of what you think of his physique?
this brother could get naturally to the level of development the white brother prsent in this thread,,why? because hes black,,as simple as that,,blacks have better genetics for muscle and are more muscle bound than white period,,so if the white guy was black id say its possible for him naturally to achieve what he has on him but guess what..he is no black nor he has black in him in any shape or form,,hes a white boy with flab genetics to begin with or thin or chubb chubb,,no muscle bound nothing
now to get farther to the level the black brother present in the picture,,it takes hormones and i cant say exactly what hormones he used because its a process that involve hormones,,good genetics,,and good training,,he most likley been to almost everything beside growth and insulin