Dexter Jackson doesnt know what L-glutamine is?

[WhiteCastle]

You're telling me, that even though he doesn't take the stuff at-at his trainers request- that it's OK to not know what a basic supplement is in his chosen field of profession?

That's like Joe Montana not knowing what the shotgun formation is, because Bill Walsh told him not to use it (ftr, Montana rarely liked using the shotgun anyway).

It's just a basic supplement in the wannabe bodybuilder world.  The pros don't give a damn about glutamine and niether should they; it's a complete scam.

[affy]

hahaha this guy is probably on jay cutlers "mass stack"

[YoungBlood]

It's just a basic supplement in the wannabe bodybuilder world.  The pros don't give a damn about glutamine and niether should they; it's a complete scam.

Do the pros care about basics? Most likely NOT. Why? Because whatever they're on, that allows them to grow and attain their goal without basic nutrition supplements like glutamine, vitamins or creatine. If they do take any of it, it's because it's a precaution more so than because they feel they'll gain a few extra pounds of muscle by ingesting them.
However, good deflection and turn. Maybe you should go back to White Castle, or the local frozen food aisle and ask for them to restock the supply, cause you're stupid.

[WhiteCastle]

Do the pros care about basics? Most likely NOT. Why? Because whatever they're on, that allows them to grow and attain their goal without basic nutrition supplements like glutamine, vitamins or creatine. If they do take any of it, it's because it's a precaution more so than because they feel they'll gain a few extra pounds of muscle by ingesting them.
However, good deflection and turn. Maybe you should go back to White Castle, or the local frozen food aisle and ask for them to restock the supply, cause you're stupid.

Do the pros care about basics? Most likely NOT. Why? Because whatever they're on, that allows them to grow and attain their goal without basic nutrition supplements like glutamine, vitamins or creatine. If they do take any of it, it's because it's a precaution more so than because they feel they'll gain a few extra pounds of muscle by ingesting them.
However, good deflection and turn. Maybe you should go back to White Castle, or the local frozen food aisle and ask for them to restock the supply, cause you're stupid.

Precaution for what?  This is like saying "I take 5 grams of beet root extract as a muscle protection precaution."  The truth is, you would be better off taking the beet root extract.  Unlike beet root extract, studies have consistently found no effects from oral glutamine supplementation in resistance training athletes.  Nobody has looked at beet root extract, but would you rather bet on a sure loser or an unknown? 

Dexter could easily not know what it is because he probably consults a nutritionist for his entire diet plan or uses what has worked for him for years now.  He claims to never do cardio, which is where most people use it (am fasted).  You could have asked him how he takes his arginine too and he might say the same thing.  Both have been around for about the same time length. 

[boonstack]

Hahahahahaha yeah he was clueliss I lost total respect for him after meeting him.

He looks awesome but thats where it ends.

Is this a general rule though , due pro's have no idea about basic supplements or is it just Dexter?

your probably gonna wanna go ahead and stop now.....

[the choad]

Glutamine drips(IV) work great for burn victims to recover faster...Everyone knows that
 

[Matt C]

You would expect Pro's to be clued up on all of this to a degree.

None of us think this.

[Man of Steel]

Hey guys,

Dexter Jackson was in my country a while back. He was doing an in store promo. A kid asked him how he took L-glutamine.

Dexter didnt have a clue what L-glutamine was and he asked the host "L - Gluta WUD?"

Whats up with this? If some one told me this I wouldnt believe it to be true.

How can a Pro at that level not know what a basic supplement like L-glutamine is.

I read another report from a Pro (No name so it might be lies) who said that he never even used a vitamin.

You would expect Pro's to be clued up on all of this to a degree.

What do you guys think?

AHAHHAAHAHAH!!! Pros don't use supplementation.   Occassionally a few of em will sign a contract to promote a supplement brand to make a few grand in between cocksucking sessions with elder gentlemen.   They just help peddle these placebos to the stupid masses.

[Naked4Jesus]

Hey guys,

Dexter Jackson was in my country a while back. He was doing an in store promo. A kid asked him how he took L-glutamine.

Dexter didnt have a clue what L-glutamine was and he asked the host "L - Gluta WUD?"

Whats up with this? If some one told me this I wouldnt believe it to be true.

How can a Pro at that level not know what a basic supplement like L-glutamine is.

I read another report from a Pro (No name so it might be lies) who said that he never even used a vitamin.

You would expect Pro's to be clued up on all of this to a degree.

What do you guys think?

NEWSFLASH:   Glutamine doesn't do shiit except make supplement companies richer.  See below:

Scientific American Magazine
August 02, 2007

Glutamine unlikely to boost athletic performance

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - There is little evidence that supplements containing the amino acid glutamine can enhance athletes' performance, according to a research review.

Glutamine is a non-essential amino acid, which means that the body synthesizes its own supply. However, glutamine is also found in a range of foods -- from meat and cheese to yogurt and spinach -- and in dietary supplements marketed as performance enhancers, according to Dr. George C. Phillips of the University of Iowa Children's Hospital in Iowa City.

Amino acids are the building blocks for proteins in the body, and one of the functions of glutamine is to help produce energy. Research shows that a person's blood levels of glutamine decline after exercise, but that long-term training boosts athletes' resting glutamine levels.

Glutamine aids in the synthesis of white blood cells of the immune system, which theoretically could counter the drain on the immune system that can occur with intense training.


All of this suggests that increasing glutamine levels with supplements could enhance athletic performance, Phillips notes. However, studies have not borne this out, he writes in the journal Current Sports Medicine Reports.

Phillips looked at a number of studies that tested whether glutamine supplements can increase muscle strength, speed up post-workout recovery or prevent colds by boosting immune function in hard-training athletes.

There was no consistent evidence of any of these benefits. This, coupled with the fact that glutamine supplements may raise cholesterol, "calls into serious question the appropriateness of glutamine as a dietary supplement," he writes.

"Unfortunately," Phillips concludes, "this appears to be another example of commercial marketing trumping scientific evidence that in this case demonstrates how nonessential glutamine supplementation is to athletic performance."

There was never anything to "know". 

Hope this helps.

Warm regards,

N4J

[tweeter]

I wasted alot of money on glutamine back in the day; stuff is expensive too.

[Man of Steel]

I wasted alot of money on glutamine back in the day; stuff is expensive too.

All I ever use are multivitamin/mineral and some protein powder from Sam's for quick breakfasts.....everythin g else is a waste and I've tried a bunch of crap over the years.   I've made better gains taken a fuggin Flintstone vitamin each day.

[YoungBlood]

Precaution for what?  This is like saying "I take 5 grams of beet root extract as a muscle protection precaution."  The truth is, you would be better off taking the beet root extract.  Unlike beet root extract, studies have consistently found no effects from oral glutamine supplementation in resistance training athletes.  Nobody has looked at beet root extract, but would you rather bet on a sure loser or an unknown? 

Dexter could easily not know what it is because he probably consults a nutritionist for his entire diet plan or uses what has worked for him for years now.  He claims to never do cardio, which is where most people use it (am fasted).  You could have asked him how he takes his arginine too and he might say the same thing.  Both have been around for about the same time length. 

If you think Dexter does no cardio, look at these:

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After



A "precaution for what?" you ask? Chad Nicholls once let Tom Prince know that his wife (Kim C. former Ms. Olympia) was taking glucosamine & chondroitin. Why? She didn't have any joint problems...but Chad and Kim use it so if joint problems are to ever occur, they can possibly be minimized or at the very least held off for a longer period of time. What does that have to do with the vitamins and such? Think about it, and notice I said think...

[GetBigOrDieTrying]

You're telling me, that even though he doesn't take the stuff at-at his trainers request- that it's OK to not know what a basic supplement is in his chosen field of profession?

That's like Joe Montana not knowing what the shotgun formation is, because Bill Walsh told him not to use it (ftr, Montana rarely liked using the shotgun anyway).

Thats really what I was getting at...

[onlyme]

Of course he didn't know.duhhhhhhhhh.  Should have asked about test, gh, insulin, anadrol, d-bol, or any other steroid.  Then you would have got an answer

[GetBigOrDieTrying]

NEWSFLASH:   Glutamine doesn't do shiit except make supplement companies richer.  See below:

Scientific American Magazine
August 02, 2007

Glutamine unlikely to boost athletic performance

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - There is little evidence that supplements containing the amino acid glutamine can enhance athletes' performance, according to a research review.

Glutamine is a non-essential amino acid, which means that the body synthesizes its own supply. However, glutamine is also found in a range of foods -- from meat and cheese to yogurt and spinach -- and in dietary supplements marketed as performance enhancers, according to Dr. George C. Phillips of the University of Iowa Children's Hospital in Iowa City.

Amino acids are the building blocks for proteins in the body, and one of the functions of glutamine is to help produce energy. Research shows that a person's blood levels of glutamine decline after exercise, but that long-term training boosts athletes' resting glutamine levels.

Glutamine aids in the synthesis of white blood cells of the immune system, which theoretically could counter the drain on the immune system that can occur with intense training.


All of this suggests that increasing glutamine levels with supplements could enhance athletic performance, Phillips notes. However, studies have not borne this out, he writes in the journal Current Sports Medicine Reports.

Phillips looked at a number of studies that tested whether glutamine supplements can increase muscle strength, speed up post-workout recovery or prevent colds by boosting immune function in hard-training athletes.

There was no consistent evidence of any of these benefits. This, coupled with the fact that glutamine supplements may raise cholesterol, "calls into serious question the appropriateness of glutamine as a dietary supplement," he writes.

"Unfortunately," Phillips concludes, "this appears to be another example of commercial marketing trumping scientific evidence that in this case demonstrates how nonessential glutamine supplementation is to athletic performance."

There was never anything to "know". 

Hope this helps.

Warm regards,

N4J

There is always two sides to every thing.

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They all support the use of L-glutamine.

Who's right?

[marcos chacon]

glutamine is one of the best suplements ever. when i used to work 12 hours a day in a store room,and also in periods of a lot of stress, i allways took glutamine and my weight was maintained and also over all these years my inmune sistem is allways great,only had a cold in 2 years or so.
and i can tell this because in those years i was off of gear.so it has to work.

[bigbiceps]

glutamine is one of the best suplements ever. when i used to work 12 hours a day in a store room,and also in periods of a lot of stress, i allways took glutamine and my weight was maintained and also over all these years my inmune sistem is allways great,only had a cold in 2 years or so.
and i can tell this because in those years i was off of gear.so it has to work.

Hey, are you the Spanish Bodybuilder Marcos Chacon?  When is your next competition?

[gh15]

It's just a basic supplement in the wannabe bodybuilder world.  The pros don't give a damn about glutamine and niether should they; it's a complete scam.

even the wanna be dont take it because if you wanna be anything you spend your money on real food and you spend your time in the gym

best supplement in the world is dianabol and winstrol taken together in a combo,,cant beat that

so no need for l glutamine glutamine peptides glutamine acids glutamine enanthat,,this dont work and never will because your body needs it like it needs horse shit,,

what your body as a bodybuilder does need is the knowledge of how to use hormones right,,the moment you learn that dianabol by itself will make you puffy and adding winstrol to that dianabol will change the whole look and make this pufinnes into buffiness,,only then you learned something!

all those 4 weeks on 4 weeks off are also bullshit of internet wariors,,you can be on orals 3 months in a row with ZERO sides im right now on anadrol winstrol and halotestin as my main orals for coming o and checked my blood pressure last night it was 117 on 76,,,been on combo of 2-3 orals for last 2-3 months,,,most "toxic" ones...
liver enzymes didnt even move,,and heart beat is 66 at rest,,

[Cleanest Natural]

even the wanna be dont take it because if you wanna be anything you spend your money on real food and you spend your time in the gym

best supplement in the world is dianabol and winstrol taken together in a combo,,cant beat that

so no need for l glutamine glutamine peptides glutamine acids glutamine enanthat,,this dont work and never will because your body needs it like it needs horse shit,,

what your body as a bodybuilder does need is the knowledge of how to use hormones right,,the moment you learn that dianabol by itself will make you puffy and adding winstrol to that dianabol will change the whole look and make this pufinnes into buffiness,,only then you learned something!

all those 4 weeks on 4 weeks off are also bullshit of internet wariors,,you can be on orals 3 months in a row with ZERO sides im right now on anadrol winstrol and halotestin as my main orals for coming o and checked my blood pressure last night it was 117 on 76,,,been on combo of 2-3 orals for last 2-3 months,,,most "toxic" ones...
liver enzymes didnt even move,,and heart beat is 66 at rest,,

U said before to do dianabol 4 weeks straight and then lay off for 4 weeks....does it mean it's better to be on it 3 months straight ?...or u CAN be on it 3 months straight...and you won't get sides...?

[LatsMcGee]

The same thing happened years ago at the Arnold when my friend asked Ronnie Coleman what he thought about Andro/baseball PH scandel and Ronnie had no fucking clue what Andro was.  You could tell by the look on Ronnie's face that he really had no clue what my friend was talking about.  I wanted to give him my free sample of Pinnacle Andro Poppers but I figured he wouldn't take it.

[gh15]

dianabol 4-5 weeks then change to something else then something else.,,
i find for myself that combo of orals work a lot better,,since when you want to grow lean you got to add the winstrol to the dianabol in a oral combo otherwize you will get puffed,,its very individual but i recomend a mix of orals as in 2 orals same time in addition to any ae/ai taken if taken
ofcourse low bodyfat is very important when you start this because only when bodyfat is low enough you will be able to notice changes on a daily basis,,moment physiqe is covered with fat changes will be minimal and wont be noticable to the eye

[Cleanest Natural]

dianabol 4-5 weeks then change to something else then something else.,,
i find for myself that combo of orals work a lot better,,since when you want to grow lean you got to add the winstrol to the dianabol in a oral combo otherwize you will get puffed,,its very individual but i recomend a mix of orals as in 2 orals same time in addition to any ae/ai taken if taken
ofcourse low bodyfat is very important when you start this because only when bodyfat is low enough you will be able to notice changes on a daily basis,,moment physiqe is covered with fat changes will be minimal and wont be noticable to the eye

gotcha

[marcos chacon]

with all my respects gh15,remenber that not everyone in this boards is juiced,so i think that the people that have good expirience with natural suplements should explain them here.

pro bodybuilding is another world,but there is more bodybuildings besides pro levels.

[marcos chacon]

for example,rigth now im out of the game due to surgery in my shoulder and in my abs(hernia) since febreruary i havent used anything and the only suplement i take is glutamine,my weight barely has gone down,of course i lost the roundes ,but muscle is still there.maybe glutamine works.
www.marcoschacon.com

[Cleanest Natural]

for example,rigth now im out of the game due to surgery in my shoulder and in my abs(hernia) since febreruary i havent used anything and the only suplement i take is glutamine,my weight barely has gone down,of course i lost the roundes ,but muscle is still there.maybe glutamine works.
www.marcoschacon.com