Author Topic: Should Some Pro's be Kicked out of the IFBB for Poor Physiques?????????? (Read 5729 times)

gmflex · « **Reply #25 on:** September 11, 2007, 06:24:37 PM »

Quote from: Nordic Beast on September 11, 2007, 01:40:54 PM

DAMN

I was looking for those pics and couldnt find them

he was unreal in his prime

I remember a couple of years ago when he posted here / titus. a get bigger asked him how come he didn't look the way he did when he won the nationals. Titus response was that he didn't want to risk health using that much gear $:-\$

Nordic Beast · « **Reply #26 on:** September 13, 2007, 05:50:43 AM »

IM not doggin Levrone here--------he is actually one of my all time favorite BBer's and no one can argue that he isnt a legend--along with that he was one of the smartest BBer's, he knew when to retire and not sacrifice his health for BBing

this pics just demonstrate how extreme the upper echelon BBer's have to go to be able to compete at the highest level

vs

i think he looks great here--and is more jacked than 98% of the population but there is a drastic differnce

Nordic Beast · « **Reply #27 on:** April 22, 2008, 02:27:34 PM »

*bump

great thread

YoungBlood · « **Reply #28 on:** April 22, 2008, 04:13:05 PM »

Quote from: Nordic Beast on September 11, 2007, 01:18:47 PM

Titus did look awesome here though

Yeah, that loose skin under his nipple(s) looks really great.
Even better, he actually had that OPERATED on because whatever the fuck he did to have it get there...BODYbuilding couldn't fix it. Hell, even after that, the operation didn't fix it.

Parker · « **Reply #29 on:** April 22, 2008, 04:18:16 PM »

Quote from: YoungBlood on April 22, 2008, 04:13:05 PM

Yeah, that loose skin under his nipple(s) looks really great.
Even better, he actually had that OPERATED on because whatever the fuck he did to have it get there...BODYbuilding couldn't fix it. Hell, even after that, the operation didn't fix it.

Well, he tore his pec, and after that it seemed like he was scared to bench, his chest down hill from there.

Camel Jockey · « **Reply #30 on:** April 22, 2008, 04:20:02 PM »

Kamali should be thrown out. He wouldn't even be able to regain his procard.

YoungBlood · « **Reply #31 on:** April 22, 2008, 04:23:33 PM »

Quote from: Parker on April 22, 2008, 04:18:16 PM

Well, he tore his pec, and after that it seemed like he was scared to bench, his chest down hill from there.

Just irks me that he had an operation when most guys do something IN THE GYM. And he still didn't get it fixed.
Oh well, he got his in "the end." Unfortunately so did someone else less deserving than Craiggers.

MB · « **Reply #32 on:** April 22, 2008, 04:24:18 PM »

Great idea, why should you get a lifetime exemption as a pro as long as you pay your card dues. I would create a ranking system, something along the lines of what Ron has done. The top 50 at the end of each year stay as pros, the others return to the amateurs. This would also force guys to compete more to keep their ranking up.

MB · « **Reply #33 on:** April 22, 2008, 04:54:43 PM »

Another way to do it, if you don't finish in the top 6 of any show over a 3 year period, it's back to the amateurs.

Chick · « **Reply #34 on:** April 22, 2008, 05:02:42 PM »

Quote from: MB on April 22, 2008, 04:54:43 PM

Another way to do it, if you don't finish in the top 6 of any show over a 3 year period, it's back to the amateurs.

I'm sure the amateurs would be very receptive to that....

Hulkster · « **Reply #35 on:** April 22, 2008, 05:08:13 PM »

can you imagine how the sport would have changed had this physique been kicked out instead of winning the MR. OLYMPIA?

hahahahahahaha

Nordic Beast · « **Reply #36 on:** April 22, 2008, 05:13:43 PM »

vs

Im not trying to put Levrone down, he is one of my favorite all time BBers---believe me, He looks better in the 2nd pic than 99% of people I know including myself-----plus Kevin retired himself, his body did not retire him!!!!!!!!

Im just showing how big he used to be

Nordic Beast · « **Reply #37 on:** April 22, 2008, 05:16:00 PM »

aussiepro · « **Reply #38 on:** April 22, 2008, 05:27:20 PM »

kevin looks amazing in those pics.
What about the guys that turn pro and remain looking like shit (chris cook, charles ray arde) imsure there are more

MB · « **Reply #39 on:** April 22, 2008, 06:36:24 PM »

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I'm sure the amateurs would be very receptive to that....

Are you in favor of lifetime exemptions for pro status? There's nothing wrong with setting a roster limit, it makes things a little more competitive. Come on Bob, I follow the competitions closely, but here are a few names from the NY Pro list: Bola Ojex, Zoran Vejic, Emro Karaduzovic, Roland Huff, & Elvis Brown; have you even heard of these guys? If someone slips through the cracks and becomes a pro, they should have to at least be competitive.

Chick · « **Reply #40 on:** April 22, 2008, 06:40:18 PM »

Quote from: MB on April 22, 2008, 06:36:24 PM

Are you in favor of lifetime exemptions for pro status? There's nothing wrong with setting a roster limit, it makes things a little more competitive. Come on Bob, I follow the competitions closely, but here are a few names from the NY Pro list: Bola Ojex, Zoran Vejic, Emro Karaduzovic, Roland Huff, & Elvis Brown; have you even heard of these guys? If someone slips through the cracks and becomes a pro, they should have to at least be competitive.

They've al earned the right to compoete as a pro...placing will determin how long they last on the circuit. Whats the harm in them competing? If they're not good enough, they get few comparisons anyway...

There have been many cases of middle of the pack pro's who improved dramatically...like a guy named Ronnie Coleman

Weez · « **Reply #41 on:** April 23, 2008, 03:13:19 AM »

Quote from: Chick on April 22, 2008, 06:40:18 PM

They've al earned the right to compoete as a pro...placing will determin how long they last on the circuit. Whats the harm in them competing? If they're not good enough, they get few comparisons anyway...

There have been many cases of middle of the pack pro's who improved dramatically...like a guy named Ronnie Coleman

It should be done like golf. If you keep failing to make the top 12 or 15 ("the cut") , lets say, then after a while, you should be relegated back to the NPC ("Q-school"), in order to get back in the IFBB. This is the best way. It keeps only the best talent in, and pretty much avoids embarrasments, like your boy, or Kovacs, or Jocelyn....

natural al · « **Reply #42 on:** April 23, 2008, 04:26:24 AM »

yes, they should.

as a pro you should be required to present a physique that is worthy of being a pro. You're not a pro baseball player for life, you have to uphold a certain standard or you are cut or sent down to the minors, same with every "sport" that matters.

you get a line up and you get a few decent guys at the smaller shows and the rest are also rans, ham and eggers or whatever. I say if you haven't been top 10 in a show for 2 years (and have competed during that time or if you have not entered a show in 5 years) you should be required to enter a show and have a respectaible showing if not you need to requlify to be a pro.

jaejonna · « **Reply #43 on:** April 23, 2008, 05:15:14 AM »

you mean like the guy that was fired from UFC ...i think it should be mandatory to place in the top 10 at least once or your outta here!!!

Nordic Beast · « **Reply #44 on:** April 23, 2008, 05:35:03 AM »

if this was set in the IFBB---you wouldnt see anymore debacles like the fat, smooth, mulleted Lee Priest that was in the O some years back.

it would make the pros more focused and would put a lot more on the line----------Ive noticed a lot of guys who look great getting their pro card and never again look that good ie Duvall etc...

seems like the fans want this

MB · « **Reply #45 on:** April 23, 2008, 06:31:30 AM »

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There have been many cases of middle of the pack pro's who improved dramatically...like a guy named Ronnie Coleman

This wouldn't be for middle of the pack guys like an early Ronnie Coleman, but for bottom of the pack guys (like most on the list for the NY Pro). It could be a very fair criteria, like top 10 in a show over a 3 year period, that's not asking too much. The harm in letting everyone stay is that some shows start looking more like PDI than IFBB.

swilkins1984 · « **Reply #46 on:** April 23, 2008, 06:34:48 AM »

The worst physiques simply quit after spending lots of money that they never get back preparing for shows and never landing a contract.