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Study finds left-wing brain, right-wing brain
« on: September 10, 2007, 09:07:40 AM »
This is different.  Interesting. 

Study finds left-wing brain, right-wing brain
By Denise Gellene, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
September 10, 2007

Exploring the neurobiology of politics, scientists have found that liberals tolerate ambiguity and conflict better than conservatives because of how their brains work.

In a simple experiment reported todayin the journal Nature Neuroscience, scientists at New York University and UCLA show that political orientation is related to differences in how the brain processes information.
 
Previous psychological studies have found that conservatives tend to be more structured and persistent in their judgments whereas liberals are more open to new experiences. The latest study found those traits are not confined to political situations but also influence everyday decisions.

The results show "there are two cognitive styles -- a liberal style and a conservative style," said UCLA neurologist Dr. Marco Iacoboni, who was not connected to the latest research.

Participants were college students whose politics ranged from "very liberal" to "very conservative." They were instructed to tap a keyboard when an M appeared on a computer monitor and to refrain from tapping when they saw a W.

M appeared four times more frequently than W, conditioning participants to press a key in knee-jerk fashion whenever they saw a letter.

Each participant was wired to an electroencephalograph that recorded activity in the anterior cingulate cortex, the part of the brain that detects conflicts between a habitual tendency (pressing a key) and a more appropriate response (not pressing the key). Liberals had more brain activity and made fewer mistakes than conservatives when they saw a W, researchers said. Liberals and conservatives were equally accurate in recognizing M.

Researchers got the same results when they repeated the experiment in reverse, asking another set of participants to tap when a W appeared.

Frank J. Sulloway, a researcher at UC Berkeley's Institute of Personality and Social Research who was not connected to the study, said the results "provided an elegant demonstration that individual differences on a conservative-liberal dimension are strongly related to brain activity."

Analyzing the data, Sulloway said liberals were 4.9 times as likely as conservatives to show activity in the brain circuits that deal with conflicts, and 2.2 times as likely to score in the top half of the distribution for accuracy.

Sulloway said the results could explain why President Bush demonstrated a single-minded commitment to the Iraq war and why some people perceived Sen. John F. Kerry, the liberal Massachusetts Democrat who opposed Bush in the 2004 presidential race, as a "flip-flopper" for changing his mind about the conflict.

Based on the results, he said, liberals could be expected to more readily accept new social, scientific or religious ideas.

"There is ample data from the history of science showing that social and political liberals indeed do tend to support major revolutions in science," said Sulloway, who has written about the history of science and has studied behavioral differences between conservatives and liberals.

Lead author David Amodio, an assistant professor of psychology at New York University, cautioned that the study looked at a narrow range of human behavior and that it would be a mistake to conclude that one political orientation was better. The tendency of conservatives to block distracting information could be a good thing depending on the situation, he said.

Political orientation, he noted, occurs along a spectrum, and positions on specific issues, such as taxes, are influenced by many factors, including education and wealth. Some liberals oppose higher taxes and some conservatives favor abortion rights.

Still, he acknowledged that a meeting of the minds between conservatives and liberals looked difficult given the study results.

"Does this mean liberals and conservatives are never going to agree?" Amodio asked. "Maybe it suggests one reason why they tend not to get along."

http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-sci-politics10sep10,0,5982337.story?coll=la-home-center

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Re: Study finds left-wing brain, right-wing brain
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2007, 09:48:47 AM »
This is different.  Interesting. 

Study finds left-wing brain, right-wing brain
By Denise Gellene, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
September 10, 2007

Exploring the neurobiology of politics, scientists have found that liberals tolerate ambiguity and conflict better than conservatives because of how their brains work.

Based on the results, he said, liberals could be expected to more readily accept new social, scientific or religious ideas.


http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-sci-politics10sep10,0,5982337.story?coll=la-home-center

something I've said for years - conservatives cannot tolerate ambiguity - they'll gladly take a simplistic answer in place of having to deal with a world that's complex and shades of gray.

This is the same "mind" buys into fundamentalist religious thought (pick your religion).   They prefer and actually need a simplistic answer, even one filled with nonsense and contradiction, over the alternative of having to live in world filled ambiguity where there are very complicated questions with no definitive answers.

You might say that these people have a need to live in child like state where they can defer to some higher authority who can give them simple answers so that they can be comfortable living in the world

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Re: Study finds left-wing brain, right-wing brain
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2007, 10:03:22 AM »

This is the same "mind" buys into fundamentalist religious thought (pick your religion).   They prefer and actually need a simplistic answer, even one filled with nonsense and contradiction, over the alternative of having to live in world filled ambiguity where there are very complicated questions with no definitive answers.



I'm sure Limbaugh, O'reilly or any of your other sundry right-wing pundits can look at something like this and interpret it as bad.

The actuality of complicated problems having solutions that can't be boiled down to six second soundbites or loaded newspeak seems like something everyone should be able to comprehend.


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« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2007, 01:21:24 PM »
As opposed to the Liberal left who find that the world would be a better place if we would just sit down and hug it out, because the Terrorist nutbags don't hate us, they're just misunderstood.  ::)
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Re: Study finds left-wing brain, right-wing brain
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2007, 01:36:10 PM »
As opposed to the Liberal left who find that the world would be a better place if we would just sit down and hug it out, because the Terrorist nutbags don't hate us, they're just misunderstood.  ::)

What  prominent liberal  has ever suggested hugs as a solution to terrorism?

Traditionally, the right has had a unique stranglehold on "re-imagining" reality. "Bush may not be smart, but I want to have a beer with him, so he should be president." "Kerry's background makes him an entitled elitist... I'm going to vote for someone more authentic like George Bush, who has a similar, if not even more elite, background."


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Re: Study finds left-wing brain, right-wing brain
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2007, 01:51:55 PM »
As opposed to the Liberal left who find that the world would be a better place if we would just sit down and hug it out, because the Terrorist nutbags don't hate us, they're just misunderstood.  ::)

No one on either side has suggested we can "hug it out" with Islamic nutbags so why even bring up such a point?

On the other hand the "Cheney Doctrine" is an extreme example of the other side of the argument:

If there's a 1% chance that Pakistani scientists are helping al-Qaeda build or develop a nuclear weapon, we have to treat it as a certainty in terms of our response. It's not about our analysis ... It's about our response.

Now that's an extreme example of being unable to deal with ambiguity.  The "solution" is insane but at least it's simple and easy to understand

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« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2007, 02:58:04 PM »
conservatives make decisions based on what is right or wrong,, based on morals, and beliefs

liberals make decisions based on how they feel..

each type of person is needed to make the world go around.. but IMO, most liberals should not be making certain decisions.. for example. a conservative judge will take a criminal and say "you fucked up and your paying the price".. a liberal judge will say "poor guy, your mommy didnt love you, its not your fault, heres probation"... if you think im wrong then you haven't seen the cases where ive arrested and testified against someone like rapist and murderers, and drug dealers and see them get a slap on the wrist. just to go back out there to do it again.. all because some pussy made a decision because of how they felt.


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Re: Study finds left-wing brain, right-wing brain
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2007, 03:17:15 PM »
conservatives make decisions based on what is right or wrong,, based on morals, and beliefs

liberals make decisions based on how they feel..

each type of person is needed to make the world go around.. but IMO, most liberals should not be making certain decisions.. for example. a conservative judge will take a criminal and say "you fucked up and your paying the price".. a liberal judge will say "poor guy, your mommy didnt love you, its not your fault, heres probation"... if you think im wrong then you haven't seen the cases where ive arrested and testified against someone like rapist and murderers, and drug dealers and see them get a slap on the wrist. just to go back out there to do it again.. all because some pussy made a decision because of how they felt.



I think you are making some pretty brain washed assumptions here. 

As people's moral compasses vary, what they consider right or wrong spread themselves into want some think is bad or good.   That has nothing to do with how a person is feeling. 

Liberals, those to the left anyway, see complexity in simplicity, in other words they see more then just black and white.  while conservatives see simplicity in complexity, or that complex problems are solved by simple answers.

Unfortunately the world doesn't work well without both approaches.

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Re: Study finds left-wing brain, right-wing brain
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2007, 04:07:40 PM »
conservatives make decisions based on what is right or wrong,, based on morals, and beliefs

liberals make decisions based on how they feel..

each type of person is needed to make the world go around.. but IMO, most liberals should not be making certain decisions.. for example. a conservative judge will take a criminal and say "you fucked up and your paying the price".. a liberal judge will say "poor guy, your mommy didnt love you, its not your fault, heres probation"... if you think im wrong then you haven't seen the cases where ive arrested and testified against someone like rapist and murderers, and drug dealers and see them get a slap on the wrist. just to go back out there to do it again.. all because some pussy made a decision because of how they felt.



I've got no issue with your comments on certain Liberal judges and their light sentencing, there are some absolute idiots on the bench in Massachusetts. Some of their decisions are complete mockeries of the legal system.

I will however take issue with your comments on Conservatives. I've seen far too many Conservatives preach one thing and live another for them to be any kind of moral compass. Both Liberals and Conservatives are fatally flawed.

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Re: Study finds left-wing brain, right-wing brain
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2007, 05:02:17 PM »
So basically in a nutshell, it shows what many of us have known for years.
Conservatives are simpletons who cannot accurately process information.
They see one thing, but it doesn't register, and they're unable to accurately interpret what they're seeing.
They are also more likely to be inaccurate in what they do... big surprise there.... NOT!  ::) Simpletons!  :P
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Re: Study finds left-wing brain, right-wing brain
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2007, 06:58:20 PM »
So basically in a nutshell, it shows what many of us have known for years.
Conservatives are simpletons who cannot accurately process information.
They see one thing, but it doesn't register, and they're unable to accurately interpret what they're seeing.
They are also more likely to be inaccurate in what they do... big surprise there.... NOT!  ::) Simpletons!  :P

Arrogant much?

I know a lot of conservatives who are fully capable of thinking "outside the box" and I can think of a lot of liberals that simply can't see past their own upturned noses.

This study really proves nothing to me.


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« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2007, 07:24:42 PM »
This does beg the question - is there a Conservative/Liberal gene/set of genes that predisposes a person to one way of thinking?

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Re: Study finds left-wing brain, right-wing brain
« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2007, 07:49:27 PM »
a look at our liberal athiests...for most athiests are liberals no?


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Re: Study finds left-wing brain, right-wing brain
« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2007, 10:30:30 PM »
Arrogant much?

{giggle} More like arrogant MUCH!  :D

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I know a lot of conservatives who are fully capable of thinking "outside the box" and I can think of a lot of liberals that simply can't see past their own upturned noses.

Agreed, ...there are brain-dead imbeciles on both sides of the aisle,
...but you gotta admit there are far more of them in the Republican party.  ;D

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This study really proves nothing to me.

This study proved nothing to me too. ...it just simply confirmed what I already knew.  :P

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Re: Study finds left-wing brain, right-wing brain
« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2007, 07:12:47 AM »
conservatives make decisions based on what is right or wrong,, based on morals, and beliefs

liberals make decisions based on how they feel..

each type of person is needed to make the world go around.. but IMO, most liberals should not be making certain decisions.. for example. a conservative judge will take a criminal and say "you fucked up and your paying the price".. a liberal judge will say "poor guy, your mommy didnt love you, its not your fault, heres probation"... if you think im wrong then you haven't seen the cases where ive arrested and testified against someone like rapist and murderers, and drug dealers and see them get a slap on the wrist. just to go back out there to do it again.. all because some pussy made a decision because of how they felt.


So Conservatives make decisions based on how they feel about how they see what is right and wrong and Liberals make decisions based on how they feel about what is right and wrong.

What exactly are you trying to say here?

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Re: Study finds left-wing brain, right-wing brain
« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2007, 08:09:05 AM »
So basically in a nutshell, it shows what many of us have known for years.
Conservatives are simpletons who cannot accurately process information.
They see one thing, but it doesn't register, and they're unable to accurately interpret what they're seeing.
They are also more likely to be inaccurate in what they do... big surprise there.... NOT!  ::) Simpletons!  :P

This study is saying nothing about intelligence and using the words "conservative" and "liberal" are not helpful.   Is anyone a pure conservative or liberal?  Who decided to define the entire population as either/or.   Personally I would identify alot of my own values as conservative but then I have liberal values, libertarian and probably some that don't fall into any previously identified category.   From personal observation (and supported by this study) it just seems that certain people cannot deal with a world filled with abiguity and fuzziness.  They prefer/need to frame the world in simple black/white, yes/no, good/bad, etc.... Others can't even deal with thinking about these things and crave an authority figure or institution to give them answers.  The bizzare part to me is that these people will accept a simple answer and then go through all kinds of logical contortions when their simplistic view conflicts with the fuzziness of reality.

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Re: Study finds left-wing brain, right-wing brain
« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2007, 08:59:25 AM »
So Conservatives make decisions based on how they feel about how they see what is right and wrong and Liberals make decisions based on how they feel about what is right and wrong.

What exactly are you trying to say here?

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Re: Study finds left-wing brain, right-wing brain
« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2007, 04:30:46 PM »
Took some test that told me I was left brained.

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Re: Study finds left-wing brain, right-wing brain
« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2007, 02:28:47 PM »
{giggle} More like arrogant MUCH!  :D

Agreed, ...there are brain-dead imbeciles on both sides of the aisle,
...but you gotta admit there are far more of them in the Republican party.  ;D

This study proved nothing to me too. ...it just simply confirmed what I already knew.  :P

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