Should I diet down, before starting a real bulk cycle?

[TroubleReady39]

I've been reading about bulking, and I want to do it.  I want to put on 25 pounds over 6 months or so.  I've been reading the diets at bbing.com and I am learning a lot.

I'm currently 170 pounds at 5'9, in my early 20s.  About 12 to 15% bodyfat - 8 pack of abs shows, serratus shows, but I'm certainly not diced.

My question is - should I diet down 5 or 10 pounds of fat, THEN start the bulk?  I've read that I'll get more cuts which makes the bulk more effective.  Or, do I just start now, and try to avoid going over 20%?  For that matter, what is the highest % I should allow myself to hit, while on a bulk?  Thanks!

[wisconsinBB]

How much shit are you going to be on.  If you're not, all you're going to do is get fat and end up like dreamer.  If you're natural.  6 pounds in 6 months would be respectable.  Are you ever going to compete, if not, why ever bulk?

[spinnis]

8 pack of abs shows

[TroubleReady39]

How much shit are you going to be on.  If you're not, all you're going to do is get fat and end up like dreamer.  If you're natural.  6 pounds in 6 months would be respectable.  Are you ever going to compete, if not, why ever bulk?

i'm natural.  I'd settle for 15 pounds.  I want to bulk up because i'm only 170 pounds and i'd like to add some muscle.

[wes mantooth]

25lbs in 6 months.....natural?

id say 20 of it will be fat....

and if youre 12-15% bodyfat and can see an 8 pack...its because youve painted in on with a sharpie...

not hatin' or picking on you, but my suggestion would be continue to try to "bulk", but do not rush it.

[BlueDevil]

If nothing else you clone a new plasmid with only the gene and don't add the ARM.

[wisconsinBB]

i'm natural.  I'd settle for 15 pounds.  I want to bulk up because i'm only 170 pounds and i'd like to add some muscle.

Why do you feel the need to bulk?  Try eating larger quantities of cleaner foods and train basic and heavy.

[SteelePegasus]

bulking for a natural that will never compete is a total waste of time..and I would argue that if you are competing chances are you are "hormonized"

you can make gains while staying lean..


this fucker is already 15% BF and wants to bulk...lol..classic

[WhiteCastle]

I've been reading about bulking, and I want to do it.  I want to put on 25 pounds over 6 months or so.  I've been reading the diets at bbing.com and I am learning a lot.

I'm currently 170 pounds at 5'9, in my early 20s.  About 12 to 15% bodyfat - 8 pack of abs shows, serratus shows, but I'm certainly not diced.

My question is - should I diet down 5 or 10 pounds of fat, THEN start the bulk?  I've read that I'll get more cuts which makes the bulk more effective.  Or, do I just start now, and try to avoid going over 20%?  For that matter, what is the highest % I should allow myself to hit, while on a bulk?  Thanks!

It's too late.  He's done for.

[TroubleReady39]

you can make gains while staying lean..

how lean?  what %? that's what i'm getting at

[marcus]

BB.com blows and is only good for the supplement section. Read this before you bulk.
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1268956

[mitchyboy]

ha ahhahahahahahahahahahaha haha  8 pack my or should I say your fat ass

[TroubleReady39]

BB.com blows and is only good for the supplement section. Read this before you bulk.
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1268956

thanks.  i just want to have a daily surplus of 500-1000 cal per day with clean foods.  not get fat like dreamer.

[KillerMonk]

I've been reading about bulking, and I want to do it.  I want to put on 25 pounds over 6 months or so.  I've been reading the diets at bbing.com and I am learning a lot.

I'm currently 170 pounds at 5'9, in my early 20s.  About 12 to 15% bodyfat - 8 pack of abs shows, serratus shows, but I'm certainly not diced.

My question is - should I diet down 5 or 10 pounds of fat, THEN start the bulk?  I've read that I'll get more cuts which makes the bulk more effective.  Or, do I just start now, and try to avoid going over 20%?  For that matter, what is the highest % I should allow myself to hit, while on a bulk?  Thanks!

Unless your using do not bulk, if your abs and serratus are showing you would be 10% or lower.
If you bulk chances are when your finished and diet down you will be the same weight as when you started.170 pounds at 5,9 with abs showing is respectable be happy with that, youre in your early 20s you will put on weight naturally.
If you want to hit 200 or over visit the steroid page and learn about a simple stack.
Good Luck do not put on Fat.

[boonstack]

how lean?  what %? that's what i'm getting at

all you have to do is take 300mg's of DNP everyday and pop dbol tabs. THis is the best for health

[Dballn247]

I've been reading about bulking, and I want to do it.  I want to put on 25 pounds over 6 months or so.  I've been reading the diets at bbing.com and I am learning a lot.

I'm currently 170 pounds at 5'9, in my early 20s.  About 12 to 15% bodyfat - 8 pack of abs shows, serratus shows, but I'm certainly not diced.

My question is - should I diet down 5 or 10 pounds of fat, THEN start the bulk?  I've read that I'll get more cuts which makes the bulk more effective.  Or, do I just start now, and try to avoid going over 20%?  For that matter, what is the highest % I should allow myself to hit, while on a bulk?  Thanks!

If you are in the 12-15% range you are bulked.  If you think a pro is over that in the offseason you're wrong.  They may look it, but it's more water weight from the High levels of Test. 

Do you plan on using drugs? If not you may want to try staying the same weight and tightening it up to about 7%.  If you are going to use drugs you may want to try diet down and deplete as much as possible in order to get your body to respond better to food, supplements, drugs etc.....

[TroubleReady39]

If you are in the 12-15% range you are bulked.  If you think a pro is over that in the offseason you're wrong.  They may look it, but it's more water weight from the High levels of Test. 

Do you plan on using drugs? If not you may want to try staying the same weight and tightening it up to about 7%.  If you are going to use drugs you may want to try diet down and deplete as much as possible in order to get your body to respond better to food, supplements, drugs etc.....

15% is as fat as I should get?

[slaveboy1980]

place a monkey testicle in a graped out avocado and then place the avocado in your anus. you will grow like weed in jamaica.

[TroubleReady39]

so this goes back to my original question -

Should I diet down to 7%, then make sure to stay UNDER 15% as I try to add muscle?

[jakeflips]

A big question is what body type you have.  This will determine how likely you are to put on body fat or not.

[SteelePegasus]

so this goes back to my original question -

Should I diet down to 7%, then make sure to stay UNDER 15% as I try to add muscle?

everyone here would like to see how the fat is distributed on your body to allow for an 8 pack at 15% BF.

you have to post a pic

[columbusdude82]

TroubleReady39, you should ask this guy to do your prep, he will turn you into a total BEAST!!!

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=167702.0

[WOOO]

you mean 20-25 %....     

[Nordic Beast]

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[Stavios]

15 % is already pretty fat, you should never exeed that

diet down dude, then bulk

but I don't recommend "bulking" for naturals