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Mark Cuban: I'm planning 24 MMA events in 2008
« on: September 13, 2007, 12:16:28 PM »
This should make next year very interesting in MMA. :)

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Mark Cuban has harangued NBA officials, served Blizzards at Dairy Queen, and played the role of Benefactor on national television.

Now the 49-year-old billionaire owner of the Dallas Mavericks is set to step full-force into mixed martial arts -- both as a promoter of big-budget events and as the driving influence behind a fledgling television network he intends to make the premiere destination for MMA-related programming.

Dominated by the wildly popular Ultimate Fighting Championship, which Saturday lured more young men to Spike TV for a tape-delayed event than any college football game or NASCAR race attracted to their respective networks the same day, it's clear the combat sport has successfully grappled its way into living rooms across America.

"I think the UFC is a unique property that has a unique approach," Cuban told Sherdog.com during an exclusive e-mail interview. "I think Dana White and the Fertittas have done a remarkable job. [But] their model can only support a finite number of athletes, which leaves the door open for us to coexist.

"We certainly won't be a minor league feeder for them. But I think we would compete minimally for top-end free agents only because UFC locks them up to exclusive deals. I think some fighters would prefer our open approach."

The initial plan, as Cuban described it, was to pool quality regional MMA organizations such as Las Vegas-based Steele Cage Promotions, which in turn would promote enough shows to provide regular programming for HDNet's Friday Fight Night series.

"What he really told us is that he's directing all his efforts to have the No. 1 mixed martial arts TV network," retired boxing referee turned fight promoter Richard Steele said after meeting with Cuban for several hours in Las Vegas.

Currently available in 6 million homes, Cuban launched his high-definition television network in 2001. While a partnership with HDNet would aid promoters like Steele Cage and the International Fight League (it's rumored Cuban is also in serious discussions with WWE's Vince and Linda McMahon) by providing them an independent television carrier, Cuban said his various businesses figure to benefit greatly from a strong connection with MMA.

The ability to market across multiple platforms -- promoting at the American Airlines Center in Dallas, an arena Cuban co-owns; creating DVD content for Magnolia Home Entertainment; broadcasting live events in his movie theaters; and of course producing events for HDNet, which is growing 5 percent a month in a rapidly expanding HD television market -- led Cuban to say that when he chooses to promote his own events, he won't end up like other deep-pocketed, wide-eyed promoters who failed to see a return on their investment.

"We want to keep things good for the athletes but we also have to be financially responsible for what we're doing with our promoters," said Guy Mezger (Pictures), whom Cuban tasked with overseeing talent development and matchmaking duties for MMA on HDNet. "We can't expect some of our promoters to sit here and drop $50,000 for an athlete when they have a show that is not bringing in enough money to justify that."

However, it shouldn't surprise anyone who's followed Cuban's tenure as owner of the Mavericks that he'll ignore his frugal grain if he thinks spending money will improve his product.

"We certainly won't need to blow through $40 million dollars, although it's not an investment level I would be unwilling to make," Cuban conceded, alluding to the hefty sum the UFC spent before it started to see some money coming back.

"At times he is like a great big kid," Mezger said of Cuban, who made a splash last week by throwing his hat into the Fedor Emelianenko (Pictures) sweepstakes. "It's like he opens up a Christmas present and he's excited about it and he sees another Christmas present and he's equally excited about it.

"All these opportunities come," the retired fighter continued. "When he first approached me with the idea of doing their own deal and putting this thing on, it was a much smaller idea. But as he gets going, he has tremendous energy. I'm not kidding you, this guy, I mean I don't know when he sleeps."

For MMA fans, Cuban's vigor should yield more fight programming in the short term, including the expectation of live cards on HDNet or pay-per-view, as well as an innovative news program focusing on the sport: "Inside MMA," which debuts Friday.

"Think ‘Inside the NFL' on HBO," the HDNet chairman said.

Fanning the flames of his reputation as a player's owner, Cuban indicated he plans on "making a significant investment in MMA with the goal of promoting it as a professional sport with professional athletes."

"There is no reason that a fighter in an undercard match should be treated any differently than how I treat our players on the Mavs," he said. "I don't think MMA professional athletes get treated with the respect and professionalism they deserve and that has created an opportunity for me and HDNet."

When asked if the perceived lack of respect extends all the way to the biggest promoters in the sport, including the UFC, Cuban took dead aim at MMA's promotional structure by comparing it to professional wrestling.

"The UFC has done an amazing job of building a business," he said. "They deserve a ton of credit. But from my perspective they really have taken a page from the WWE. Not that it's scripted, it's not. Rather that the events are over-produced. The attention is taken away from the athletes and placed on the bigger brands.

"The UFC is a great company doing great business and they will be around for a long time," he continued, "but we are going to learn from them and learn from my experiences in the NBA and try to take the best of both worlds to the benefit of the fans and the athletes involved."

Planning upwards of 24 events in 2008, both in conjunction with partner promoters and on his own, Cuban appears to be diving headfirst into a very competitive fighter market.

"I think he could be a major player," Steele said. "He has the TV. He really has the drive to try and boost the company as far as making it visible in the whole country. This guy can do it if he gets behind something."

Steele's International Fighting Organization debuted on HDNet last Friday and became one of the few promotions in the sport to have an independent broadcast crew call fights.

That, said IFO CEO Steve Oshins, is an important component of what the relationship with HDNet brings to his or any other MMA show.

"I think it's helpful. Otherwise what we see with other organizations is better promoting of the guy that they want to win," Oshins said. "They make better comments about who's making them the big money. Whereas having Ron Kruk and his team from HDNet commentating for our events, they're not going to favor anyone because they don't really know who we're promoting on the long-term basis."

That independence has been a trademark of HDNet-produced programming since the network debuted six years ago.

"The key to the future of MMA in my opinion is creating a foundation for young fighters to turn professional with confidence they can make a living and take care of their families," Cuban said.

"I also think the sport has followed the WWE event script too closely. The WWE isn't trying to be a professional sport. MMA should be. If we are going to be a professional sport, covered by sports networks, partnering with sports advertisers, etcetera, the sport might have to do the unthinkable and even get rid of ringside bimbos."

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Re: Mark Cuban: I'm planning 24 MMA events in 2008
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2007, 12:27:21 PM »
This organization will be as good as Pride. This man will respect his fighters, and not treat them like shit. I think this is where Fedor will go.

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Re: Mark Cuban: I'm planning 24 MMA events in 2008
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2007, 12:33:02 PM »
This organization will be as good as Pride. This man will respect his fighters, and not treat them like shit. I think this is where Fedor will go.

It will be interesting to see. Cuban could pay him equal to UFC I am sure.. But the issue is who would he bring with him....

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Re: Mark Cuban: I'm planning 24 MMA events in 2008
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2007, 01:00:28 PM »
It will be interesting to see. Cuban could pay him equal to UFC I am sure.. But the issue is who would he bring with him....

I think allot of fighters will leave the UfC when their contracts are up. It sounds like Cuban will not make a side show out of his fighters like Dana White does. That's one thing that Cro Cop hates about the UFC, all the bullshit marketing crap.

You know Barnet will sign with him. So will Mark Coleman.

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Re: Mark Cuban: I'm planning 24 MMA events in 2008
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2007, 01:04:03 PM »
Wow, he has Guy Mezger overseeing talent development and matchmaking, could be interesting.
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Re: Mark Cuban: I'm planning 24 MMA events in 2008
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2007, 01:23:10 PM »
Nice.  I like Cuban a lot.  He does what he wants not what others want.  He has more than enough money to draw who he wants.  He is doing what Wayne was doing with the PDI by allowing their athletes to compete wherever and have more freedom.  I like that and I think he can make an impact.

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Re: Mark Cuban: I'm planning 24 MMA events in 2008
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2007, 01:26:20 PM »
Wow, he has Guy Mezger overseeing talent development and matchmaking, could be interesting.

This is going to be a really cool promotion. I bet allot of the Pride fighters that signed with the UFC wish they would have waited.

Fedor's manager will probably bring some more fighters to the organization also. I wonder if Bob Sapp will sign with Cuban?

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Re: Mark Cuban: I'm planning 24 MMA events in 2008
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2007, 03:22:51 PM »
Hm...

On one hand it's good that there's some competition...

On the other hand, it's nice to see a clear champion. E.g. I'd still like to see fedor fight the UFC champion.

Let's see where this goes.
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Re: Mark Cuban: I'm planning 24 MMA events in 2008
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2007, 04:05:53 PM »
Wow, he has Guy Mezger overseeing talent development and matchmaking, could be interesting.

He needs Monte Cox on his side.  Monte oversees lots of talent. 

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Re: Mark Cuban: I'm planning 24 MMA events in 2008
« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2007, 10:18:05 PM »
Wow, he has Guy Mezger overseeing talent development and matchmaking, could be interesting.

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Re: Mark Cuban: I'm planning 24 MMA events in 2008
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2007, 06:03:49 AM »
He's going to do great things for MMA. Here is one of his statments.

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On UFC: "The UFC's done a great job in what they do, but they kind of stole the WWE script. And we just think that we can take a different approach and treat them more like a Mavs game, more like an athletic event than a spectacle."

It's going to be Pride, reborn!

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Re: Mark Cuban: I'm planning 24 MMA events in 2008
« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2007, 07:27:42 AM »
He's going to do great things for MMA. Here is one of his statments.

It's going to be Pride, reborn!

Pride's openings were arguably 100x more of a spectacle than the UFC's. But I'm really interested in this. Cuban has proven that he can pretty much make a lot of money doing anything and he's a diehard fan for the teams he supports, so I can definitely see him pouring a lot of effort into this. Could be awesome.  :o

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Re: Mark Cuban: I'm planning 24 MMA events in 2008
« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2007, 07:30:14 AM »
Pride's openings were arguably 100x more of a spectacle than the UFC's. But I'm really interested in this. Cuban has proven that he can pretty much make a lot of money doing anything and he's a diehard fan for the teams he supports, so I can definitely see him pouring a lot of effort into this. Could be awesome.  :o

Plus with Cuban being so well known in the Sprots world it could really help with him getting shows all over the US... Not just Texas, Cali, and Vegas.. We could see him open the market in the northwest, New York, and maybe down south like Florida or even New Orleans... I am sure these shows would sell well in most of those states... But we shall see.

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Re: Mark Cuban: I'm planning 24 MMA events in 2008
« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2007, 08:30:18 AM »
Plus with Cuban being so well known in the Sprots world it could really help with him getting shows all over the US... Not just Texas, Cali, and Vegas.. We could see him open the market in the northwest, New York, and maybe down south like Florida or even New Orleans... I am sure these shows would sell well in most of those states... But we shall see.


ufc has been in florida and ohio
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Re: Mark Cuban: I'm planning 24 MMA events in 2008
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2007, 09:41:56 AM »

ufc has been in florida and ohio

When did they go to Florida... I am suprised NO New York shows as of late.. Madison Square would sell out I would think..

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Re: Mark Cuban: I'm planning 24 MMA events in 2008
« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2007, 10:40:24 AM »
they go to  Florida for fight night's I've been to 2 of them, i don't think new york state athletic commission allows the ufc or mma.
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Re: Mark Cuban: I'm planning 24 MMA events in 2008
« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2007, 10:44:24 AM »
they go to  Florida for fight night's I've been to 2 of them, i don't think new york state athletic commission allows the ufc or mma.

Last I heard they were working on changing that. Don't know how it turned out.

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Re: Mark Cuban: I'm planning 24 MMA events in 2008
« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2007, 07:18:08 AM »
Last I heard they were working on changing that. Don't know how it turned out.


The UFC is currently in the process of helping to introduce legislation into Illinois and Michigan that if passed, would allow the organization to run events in major cities like Chicago and Detroit. And New York isn't far behind, either. The organization is actively involved in working with New York lobbyists and legislators to get the sport approved there, opening up the opportunity to run fight cards at arenas like Madison Square Garden.

"That's certainly the mecca, the goal," said Marc Ratner, UFC's Vice President of Regulatory Affairs. "When I speak to commissions who've approved the sport and had other competing groups runs, I say, 'now it's time to have Broadway.' Now, we want to take our Broadway to Broadway."

UFC President Dana White recently told NBCSports.com that it was his goal to run events in both Chicago and New York within 18 months. Ratner says that goal is realistic.

"I believe it is, yes," he says. "We'll start working on New York a little more aggressively next week and we'll find out what it entails. It depends on each state, but I'm very bullish on the future of the sport."

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Re: Mark Cuban: I'm planning 24 MMA events in 2008
« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2007, 10:03:59 AM »
I would pay to see Cuban submitted by a choke hold.  Maybe he can use that as a marketing ploy.

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Re: Mark Cuban: I'm planning 24 MMA events in 2008
« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2007, 11:01:09 AM »
man i heard cuban on the radio the other day. he said he was all about mma and how his fights are goin to b figthters who want to go toe to toe and not flop around on the ground. so how can you b all about MIXED MARTIAL ARTS if you dont understand the ground game? why not just call it kickboxing?

i remember chuck norris was tryin to do same thing. mma wihtout the ground fighting what was it called wff? and i havent heard anything about it since. dont get me wrong cuban will make it huge but only in the way most american are used to. the stand up. not a true full on MMA including ground game. i still hear people boo'n when the fight goes to the ground. you dont hear that kinda stuff in pride b/c they understood the complexity of it. Just the other day i was at work and the guys where talkin about ufc and how rampage and dan henderson was the worst fight they had ever seen. and where saying who was this dan guy anyways. Then one guy notices on my hard had a small logo that has "gogo plata" on it and hes like wtf does that mean.  ::)